Cheap High Quality Bubbler

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Isn't there some kind of DHgate rule or something that a vendor has to provide tracking info within a certain timeframe or they are penalized somehow (i thought I read that here once). Maybe I have that wrong. If that were the case, then the actual problem would be listing it way too early before they have stock, but maybe that's the only way they could judge the actual demand? Just thinking out loud. :shrug:
 

EverythingsHazy

Well-Known Member
Dude... don't take this the wrong way, but if I can get a piece of glass - albeit with a few imperfections, some lies and slow shipping - for 10% of what traditional would cost me, I'm NOT settling for anything. 10% of cost - not 10% off. What I'm saying is if you want perfect shit, no lies, and instant gratification, go for it! But, be ready to pay for it. The $330 Mobius that the GB-187 is a knock off of on ALT (when in stock), would cost even more at any LHS. If anyone has issues with how the FC-187 is going so far, they should take their $400 (or more) to their LHS and pick up what they need. I'll go even one better and offer this to anyone on FC. Shop on dhGate, find what you like, and let me know. I'll gladly handle all the headaches and waiting. Just send me triple the price. I'll give a realistic arrival date and get it there on time or discount accordingly. Or, go to an LHS, find a nice Chinese piece (often labeled as made in USA), and pay the 4x dhGate price to walk out the door with it. Sorry.... I just don't see where "settle" comes into the equation here. $40 for a custom requested piece like this is unheard of.

And to be fair, I'm jumping in on the cynical (realistic?) bandwagon here. For all we know my piece (and many others) will be at the shipping point within the listed 2 days. Just saying I won't be surprised at all if it doesn't ship for another 10 or so days. What really worries me (and is bound to happen sooner or later, tho hopefully not here), is that no piece ever gets shipped. Then we may have to hire a mercenary (Mr. Gwello?) to go get our refund in person!



Man.... that would be great! But, with the way business is done there it probably wouldn't be worth it for you unless you charge the same prices (or even more) than what we're getting from dhGate. Then again, would love to see you get the profits, and am sure all would rather deal with you than some of the vendors we have now.


To start off, I'd like to say that I wasn't directing my post towards Steven's store, but rather all sellers of anything in general. Lying is a shady business practice. Once you know someone is willing to be deceptive in one aspect, what is to say they are being honest or upfront about anything, including the quality of their pieces, and the accuracy of their customer service responses. Nobody likes to have $50+ of theirs just floating around somewhere between China and the US, regardless if the original creator of the piece is scamming people by charging several hundred when bought in the states. There is a reason the saying "the customer is always right" has come to be so popular. Sure the customer is sometimes a dumbass, but without happy customers, a vendor is nothing. Sellers only uphold themselves to the level of quality that their buyers demand.
 

tennstrong

Well-Known Member
On another note: newness? http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-design-bong-glass-water-pipe-have-honeycomb/215173905.html
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/big-size-glass-water-pipe-have-two-percolater/215173353.html
This second one seems promising
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
If you don't want to be lied to, deal with fake tracking numbers, and the rest of it, don't buy from China. This is the same whether you are buying a bubbler or Christmas lights or damned near anything else. These things, like the lesser quality control and waiting for the slow boat from China, are part of the whole deal. Not all the time - or even most of the time when you are relying on the wealth of info and experience here on FC. But, this is why things are so cheap. When you buy other crap from China - from US vendor, or even Walmart - they are jacking up the price 200-500% (and more) while dealing with the headaches and bullshit for you.

If you want that "customer is always right" experience, you have to pay for it. And, not just for stuff made in China. And, lying is not a shady business practice all over the world. In many places it is called being business-smart (often even here in US). And as for being deceptive, do you mean like making counterfeit copies of US designs and selling them for 10% of the price? I thought that's why we're all here! :lol:

There are other options. You can head over to ALT and pay hundreds, or you can go back to the first 75 or so pages of this thread before the Chinese Glass Connections were researched and chanced by a few courageous FC'ers (so thankful for them!!). There are plenty of almost as cheap pieces available that aren't nearly as elaborate (and many with thinner glass).

AFIK, buying glass like this directly from China is a fairly new thing (1 1/2 years?). There have always been other places to buy some Chinese glass, but prices weren't nearly as good. It did usually come from US vendors (who purchased in bulk from China and re-sold).

And, you can still go to iOffer or Etsy and find US sellers who are now selling many of the same pieces here. They have them in stock in US, generally don't lie or send bad tracking numbers, and get them to you quickly. Think most of them even accept PayPal. And, their stuff is still cheap - only about 2x what we pay on DHgate. Here's a nice D020 on iOffer for $55.71 that should be in stock and get to you from US to US in 3 - 5 days. Exact same piece on DHgate (ss store) is $29.13, but you won't have it for 3 weeks or so. Hell, you could probably even pick it up with an offer on iOffer of $50.

Beyond that there are still some reasonably priced US blowers you can deal with. Quality will almost always be better, and headaches usually less. One of my favorite pieces - jhanpixel UFO sidecar - is very similar to the FC-187 and can be had for less than $150. Check it out here. He is an FC member and will usually take an offer for 10% off (maybe even a little more if you mention FC). And, I'm glad to testify that it is an awesome piece!

But if you want to get decent glass at really low prices, China is the way to go. Just keep in mind you're dealing with Chinese vendors who live in a different culture and have different accepted business practices. If not, you might as well be pulling into the McD's drive thru wherever you are and tell them you want Grade A Japanese Kobe beef on your $1 double cheeseburger. You find one where they'll do that, please let us all know. And, I'm already sure everyone will share where to get solid glass with no lies or bullshit for $30 - 50 a piece. That's how this thread moves as fast as it does!
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
Well I can confirm some unfortunate news. Our man Steven has issued me a FAKE tracking number. That was 2 days ago. I just confirmed with the carrier that the number is bogus. Fuck this guy.

I've recieved two different tracking numbers for the same order before, not saying this is what's happened but give it a check. The email with the tracking number and the tracking number off the Dhgate site were different. I forgot which was correct.
 
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oli

Well-Known Member
@flotntoke Yeah totally agree man. The price is still great and that is what it is all about at the end of the day. I often get next day delivery from Sunshine Store so perhaps they spoilt me. Although I did have a bad experience with them recently (communication issue). imo what we truly need to do is locate the actual glassblowers in China and not the middle man. I can go to Shenzhen pretty much any weekend and do that but I have had no luck sourcing the glassblowers and cutting out the middleman. Perhaps that is a project we can work on? We find a glassblower and I will go and meet them and see if we can do business. I don't know :shrug:

Be interesting to know what would be the reaction of one of our vendors if you did inquire about arranging a visit of their the premises/factory in view of future deals/customs/partnership of some kind...

Just to see how they would react to the idea!
 
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stickstones

Vapor concierge
@Mr. Gweilo 420 -- what an interesting idea! You may like that better than what you are currently doing for work, if you're like me.

@flotntoke -- I think your perspective is right on. Thanks for taking the time to thoroughly type out a convincing argument for it. To expect US style customer service from Chinese blowers is setting yourself up for disappointment. 'Fuhget about it' is what I did last time with the DO-20 and instead of disappointment I got a nice surprise about a month later.
 

*plainlazy*

Well-Known Member
hi guys
ive just got a e nano vape and I have a ssv and solo.
been using the ssv and enano with a d020 from dh gate which a nice little combo but looking to upgrade my WP to something maybe bigger and better. if the d020 is beginners then im looking for mid range WP.

any ideas which ones to look into from dh gate and good sellers?

would prefer a 18mm female joint.

any ideas and tips appreciated.
 
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oli

Well-Known Member
hi guys
ive just got a e nano vape and I have a ssv and solo.
been using the ssv and enano with a d020 from dh gate which a nice little combo but looking to upgrade my WP to something maybe bigger and better. if the d020 is beginners then im looking for mid range WP.

any ideas which ones to look into from dh gate and good sellers?

would prefer a 18mm female joint.

any ideas and tips appreciated.
This thread was created for that exact purpose ;)

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/d...-you-must-post-a-review-see-first-post.15709/
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Got my shipping notice on FC-187, too! No tracking, yet.

Marsellus: You ain't got no problem, Jules. I'm on the motherfucker. Go back in there, chill them niggers out and wait for the FC-187 which should be coming directly - on a slow boat from China. :)

Might not see it by Christmas, but if we're on the up and up, I know what will be under my nano for New Year's Eve. Keeping my fingers crossed - except when checking tracking.

hi guys
ive just got a e nano vape and I have a ssv and solo.
been using the ssv and enano with a d020 from dh gate which a nice little combo but looking to upgrade my WP to something maybe bigger and better. if the d020 is beginners then im looking for mid range WP.

any ideas which ones to look into from dh gate and good sellers?

would prefer a 18mm female joint.

any ideas and tips appreciated.

Like @oli said. Plus... the GB-187 would go well with any. If you want a sidecar, I'd suggest you wait a week or so for reviews of the new FC-187 and go with it. Depending on what you're looking for, PLENTY of other options too!
 

grdwaste

Glass Psycho
Kathy straight lied to me as well but I honestly don't mind. She provided tracking info for a package the day after the order. That night I messaged her asking is she could change something or if I could purchase another adapter because I had told her male instead of female and she said yea because she hasn't shipped anything out yet! Worked out for me because she just swapped thee adapters but still. I thought it was already on the way
 
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snamuh

ghost
I got my shipping notice too...
It does say in the email that it will probably take 3-5 days for the tracking number to start working.
 
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Monsoon

Well-Known Member
Kathy straight lied to me as well but I honestly don't mind. She provided tracking info for a package the day after the order. That night I messaged her asking is she could change something or if I could purchase another adapter because I had told her male instead of female and she said yea because she hasn't shipped anything out yet! Worked out for me because she just swapped thee adapters but still. I thought it was already on the way

I'm betting in cases where they provide legit tracking, they probably just print the label and then add the package in queue for shipment/pickup.
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
If you don't want to be lied to, deal with fake tracking numbers, and the rest of it, don't buy from China. This is the same whether you are buying a bubbler or Christmas lights or damned near anything else. These things, like the lesser quality control and waiting for the slow boat from China, are part of the whole deal. Not all the time - or even most of the time when you are relying on the wealth of info and experience here on FC.

I get what you are saying and I've bought several China pieces now (see sig) so I get the drill. I have been fairly lucky on shipping so far, but I have intentionally bought from vendors with the better reputations. I don't care if this piece takes a long time to get as I have already said. I don't care if it's not perfect. I just don't want to be lied to, especially as a policy. As far as I know, none of the vendors I have used including SSS and several EBAY vendors have lied to me. I have received no false tracking numbers, or promises the vendor had no intention of keeping. Lying is just not a business policy that I am willing to accept. YMMV and that is fine. We all need to make our own decisions and set out own standards. Mine eschews vendors who lie.
 

Ifeejulah Vapor

Well-Known Member
Well I can confirm some unfortunate news. Our man Steven has issued me a FAKE tracking number. That was 2 days ago. I just confirmed with the carrier that the number is bogus. Fuck this guy.
What vendor is this? A dhgate seller? I would like to avoid buying from this "steven" you speak of haha
 
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SnidelyWhiplash

Well-Known Member
What vendor is this? A dhgate seller? I would like to avoid buying from this "steven" you speak of haha
Ive gotten non-working tracking from many sellers. Sometimes they are using Australian post, sometimes a glitch. Steven will respond if you ask him about it. I had one order from him with similar results. And when he sent the replacement, it took a few days for the tracking to work, but it did eventually, and arrived in good order.
 
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