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[jambandphan03]

I'm also interested in that "mothership" when it gets released. been drooling over that style for a long time, and don't see affording the real thing anytime soon, I think some are priced higher than my car...

@Dangus how long was your wait on that double vortex? This thread moves too fast to go digging for the OP on that. I had to scoot 4 pages just to find your post about getting it heh love this forum!!

 

[Dangus]

@Dangus how long was your wait on that double vortex? This thread moves too fast to go digging for the OP on that. I had to scoot 4 pages just to find your post about getting it heh love this forum!!

Looks like I ordered on 11-21, it shipped on 11-25, hit the USA on the 28th, and was delivered on 12-2....so ~11 days total.

Been digging the dbl...even beyond the new toy factor and all. The angle of the joint isn't as tilted as I thought it was gonna be, so it's pretty nice for dabs...if you hold it in your hand and tilt it back a tiny bit it levels out the nail, and helps the recycling action

 

[Tweak]

@flotntoke you do bring up a good point about controlling the pull and decreasing diffusion?

Wouldn't a slower pull cause more diffusion? The vapor would move through the water slower, thus spending more time cooling from contact with water and glass.

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

Wouldn't a slower pull cause more diffusion? The vapor would move through the water slower, thus spending more time cooling from contact with water.

I always thought of it as diffusion=bubbles, but you might be right

 

[Dangus]

CCG is a temptress...

http://www.dhgate.com/product/7-inch-swiss-perc-glass-recycler-concerntrated/214467616.html

http://www.dhgate.com/product/9-inch-grav-klein-recycler-with-smokey-accent/214468933.html


My only CCG purchase went ok...just sayin...but

 

[GSH]

I'm also interested in that "mothership" when it gets released. been drooling over that style for a long time, and don't see affording the real thing anytime soon, I think some are priced higher than my car...

@Dangus how long was your wait on that double vortex? This thread moves too fast to go digging for the OP on that. I had to scoot 4 pages just to find your post about getting it heh love this forum!!

Already up for sale @jambandphan03!

I have had one on order for a couple of weeks, long lead time, but it is from alina0086 so pretty confident it will arrive!

http://www.dhgate.com/product/christmas-two-function-glass-water-pipe-new/213035531.html#pd-019

 

[ConstanlyConcentrated]

As cool as they are I wonder if either will truly recycle, let alone vortex. But, at least they have some pics of their pieces and not just pics of the original blowers work. I hate that really. As far as being able to tell if a piece will vortex by looking for me is difficult in pictures. I know things to look for but hey it is what it is cheap Chinese glass so..

 

[jambandphan03]

Already up for sale @jambandphan03!

I have had one on order for a couple of weeks, long lead time, but it is from alina0086 so pretty confident it will arrive!

http://www.dhgate.com/product/christmas-two-function-glass-water-pipe-new/213035531.html#pd-019

sweet thanks, I'll have to wait a bit, but looking forward to seeing what you get. thanks for the link

 

[VJJJV]

so these just showed up on my dhgate

looks interesting, but I could swear those dots are just stickers or so..
also is that bowl for crack or whatever? or is that just a different style for domeless?

 

[flotntoke]

... @flotntoke

Sorry I was not clear. What I meant was that the matrix perc seems like it has pretty high diffusion. I mean thats the beauty of the piece IMO, mad stackage.

@flotntoke you do bring up a good point about controlling the pull and decreasing diffusion

Also maybe its just me because I use the cloud with it and it has high airflow?

Eh... it could be due to the cloud. I only tried one once, and "I don't know, I was really drunk at the time." But, do have to adjust a bit between the nano and the rarely glassed solo.

If more airflow, just try to slow your draw a bit. Probably a good idea to lower the heat just a bit too, so the slow draw doesn't overheat your load. That would be the case with the nano, but not sure how that would be with the cloud.

I try to keep the bubbles barely percolating through the draw. They're kind of like that cloud of dirt that follows Pig-Pen around on Charlie Brown - definitely there, but just barely. Then drain it fast when I pull the GonG. Should try to do a vid, but am very camera shy and have to set up a backdrop.

Wouldn't a slower pull cause more diffusion? The vapor would move through the water slower, thus spending more time cooling from contact with water and glass.

Not sure about that one. I always figured the added agitation by pulling it through harder creates more diffusion. Or, more bubbles = more diffusion, for the most part.

Am I backwards here?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

OK folks here it is. The FC-187 available for sale soon....

and for the amazing price of $40

I'm already tempted to buy2

It's like early Xmas
See if he can get the Swiss perc recycler

I asked maarte to list them as singles, he replied that he doesn't have any stock so they're staying as a group listing...
I don't understand that line of reasoning, but the you go

 

[nihil]

OK folks here it is. The FC-187 available for sale soon....

and for the amazing price of $40

Any detailed pictures of the perc, or maybe I missed them? The D020D has a nice perc, but I still prefer the GB-187's. And, it's a long shot, but do you think the vendor would do a run with the mouthpiece on the other side, for us left eye dominant types?

I'm getting this guy regardless, but might as well ask.

Also, is the vendor officially naming it FC-187? If so, awesome.

 

[weenstoned]

yo @blankrider you should get this vendor to make a ~300% bigger version of the gb-242 ideally with thicker glass. or if not then just some kind of big solid recycler with good vortex. glad I never got around to picking up a gb-187 as I will def be jumping on the sidecar.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Some more deets on the perc would be nice

One major difference I noticed between the gb-187, and the D020-D was, that the gb-187 had 2 internal bands in the matrix, effectively breaking up each slit into 3 holes.
The d020-D only had 1 internal band, so each slit was only broken into 2 holes.

IMO the 2 band setup is superior (and after checking my möbius bubs, that's how möbius does it )

Shit, I'm thinking of getting 3 and gifting 2 to mates - combustion lovers who use super cheap glass (think glass bong, rubber grommet and metal downstem).
I'd love to get them into some glass that at least has some kind of quality to it

Also, I was talking to a buddy the other night who is a smoker, and we were talking about how damn expensive cigs are (pretty sure they're some of the most expensive in the world here in Aus - $20ish per pack, and he's a pack a day guy).
I worked out that all my crazy impulse buy Chinese glass, combined with all the high end glass I've got, didn't even really come close to how much the cigs cost him...

Fuck Combustion indeed

 

[vapordab]

CCG is a temptress...

http://www.dhgate.com/product/7-inch-swiss-perc-glass-recycler-concerntrated/214467616.html

http://www.dhgate.com/product/9-inch-grav-klein-recycler-with-smokey-accent/214468933.html


My only CCG purchase went ok...just sayin...but

Same here.. But I expected possible issues as to not get my hopes up. Knowing that I could get a refund one way or another, but his unique wears make him unavoidable if you crave certain designs.. He's definitely the last seller that I would choose if multiple sellers had the same item

(on a long side note):

Honestly I have no qualms about ordering from any DHgate seller. We have all the tools at our disposal to resolve any issues. ALWAYS be polite and respectful (Everyone feels better about doing business with people who treat them like humans) but firm that you expect compensation.

I'll explain:
If the seller doesn't send the item/ gives invalid tracking number, you can immediately contact DHgate and report it.(give 5 days after the day its marked ship for the tracking to register in the postal system)Their buyer protection covers issues like this.

-When working with reputable sellers or unknown/new sellers-:

#1.If you get an unacceptable quality bubbler(small defects aren't in this category) you should first contact the seller and tell them that you recieved a "defective bubbler" the beauty in this statement is that their English generally translates this to broken, See and feel out if they are willing to make it right WITHOUT sending pictures, Our main trusted sellers are very good about this. If the seller asks for a picture and your truly unhappy with whatever problem it has* (To be continued in the next section)

-When dealing with unscrupulous sellers who don't care about making their customers happy-:

#2. (Condoned in extreme circumstances only)*Smash that mofo with a hammer and take a picture of that. If the seller still doesnt want to compensate after seeing the picture of the now broken bubbler, promptly contact DHgate and "fill them in". Your money is protected by DHgate policy and if they can't get the seller to refund you, than they have no choice but to pay you back themselves.

#3The alternate and final route is to have your credit card company back charge the payment, which they will have no problem doing, esp after seeing your broken bubbler.

 

[nihil]

Some more deets on the perc would be nice

One major difference I noticed between the gb-187, and the D020-D was, that the gb-187 had 2 internal bands in the matrix, effectively breaking up each slit into 3 holes.
The d020-D only had 1 internal band, so each slit was only broken into 2 holes.

Also, I was talking to a buddy the other night who is a smoker, and we were talking about how damn expensive cigs are (pretty sure they're some of the most expensive in the world here in Aus - $20ish per pack, and he's a pack a day guy).
I worked out that all my crazy impulse buy Chinese glass, combined with all the high end glass I've got, didn't even really come close to how much the cigs cost him...

Fuck Combustion indeed

Regarding money and smoking, I switched to a Pax (3 actually, they break fast but have a good warranty) from roll your owns and have saved $2350 USD since the end of February. Tell your friend, and as a former heavy smoker, the difference in my general health is fucking amazing. It was an easy switch.

Regarding the perc comparison, your comment is exactly what I was referring to earlier. The extra horizontal band makes a decent difference. I've filmed both in slow motion and it is even more obvious. I'm all in on the FC-187, but a three band perc/function like the GB-187 in a sidecar is what I'm after.. so hopefully.

 

[blankrider]

Looks like 2 bands. Same as the 187 perc. It is officially being named FC-187. This picture is original prototype with short can. The ones for sale have a taller can like in my previous post

I just got done taking to him about making some mini peyote pillar next. He said that he would talk to his engineer

 

[BoogerMan]

I'm hooked. If they can make that Peyote Pillar I will also be getting a few of those

I just saw these kleins on Instagram. I'm really digging the curves and the double reinforced female joint. It's perfect! If the DHGate glassblower can make these they would make a fortune!

 

[blankrider]

Funny you should mention that @BoogerMan because I was just looking at kleins trying to find the best design or most pleasing shape out there. I do really like the ones you just posted.

Anyone else have an opinion on who makes the coolest klein? I was looking at siren apparatus

 

[Tweak]

Looks like 2 bands. Same as the 187 perc. It is officially being named FC-187. This picture is original prototype with short can. The ones for sale have a taller can like in my previous post

Do you think it would be possible to ask him to do both sizes? I'd take one of each for sure. The smaller can looks nicer up close.

Keep the glass porn coming.

Hope the poor guy has enough inventory for the first rush of orders, lol

 

[BoogerMan]

@Tweak I think the smaller can one will have splash back issues with the matrix perc. I had a matrix perc piece from thickassglass a while back that had a shorter can like that and the water level was so sensitive. If you put water higher than the top of the perc you would get water up the mouthpiece. And having to keep such a low water level meant not a lot of cooling going on. Those gridded matrix percs are wicked bubble stackers It didn't stay at my home long. It was more of a hassle than a pleasure to use I think we are better off with the larger can one

Yeah Siren makes a killer double Klein and Normal Klein.

Beautiful:

Deathballglass makes some cool kleins too (he also makes really really nice eggs).

I like the way he does the joints

Brandondelay also makes a nice style. Ball on the bottom chamber and ufo saucer style on the top. I think it looks pretty clean.

Here is one in clear (mouthpiece is wayyyy to short but the body is nice)

 

[blankrider]

Nice post @BoogerMan. Check out the function of Brandon p glass. Possibly the best vortex I have seen in a klein

 

[BoogerMan]

Nice post @BoogerMan. Check out the function of Brandon p glass. Possibly the best vortex I have seen in a klein

Oh yeah how could I forget Brandon P. Spaced out right now haha.

His internal recycler has been on my buy list for at least a month now since my friend showed me his IG.

 

[Tweak]

@Tweak I think the smaller can one will have splash back issues with the matrix perc.

I figure with the side car, the slope and the sheer size of that MP should prevent any splashback from reaching the lips, idk. I can fill my D-020-W pretty full w/o SB.

I get splashback on my GB-187 the first few hits with very little water. The ION isn't very tall in comparison:

 

[BoogerMan]

I figure with the side car, the slope and the sheer size of that MP should prevent any splashback from reaching the lips, idk. I can fill my D-020-W pretty full w/o SB.

I get splashback on my GB-187 the first few hits with very little water. The ION isn't very tall in comparison:

The Ion has a wider diameter can right? That helps prevent bubbles from climbing which is why it can have a little less height than the 187

The angle of the sidearm does help splash back but once too much water gets into the mp tube it will climb the mp wall very quickly (which is most likely going to happen with a really gridded matrix perc like the 187 has, unless you pull nice and slow then it won't).

Yeah I can do that on my D020-W too which I really like (it pairs amazingly with the solo because of the higher water levels with no splashback). However, the W perc has less holes than the 187 and the holes seem bigger on the W compared to the 187. So less holes and bigger holes means less bubbles and bigger bubbles which won't stack as much as a perc with more holes and smaller holes. That's why I believe the W doesn't stack like the 187 does.