Cheap High Quality Bubbler

nr nodes

Well-Known Member
Couple questions im sorry if they have been answered before but I tried to look for them through the search function.

1. Has anyone ordered the pinnacle pro style water tube from sunshine store? Just wondering what its like
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/pinnacle-pro-glass-smoking-water-pipe-vaporblunt/184494946.html

2. Does it typically take 10-15 days of processing time like it says on their items?

3. whats the opinion on the d020-D?
I got one and a 20-D. I use it with a TV Rev for portability, works pretty well, a little uneven at the joint recess like their other pieces. The splash guard makes it a little tricky to fill. Glad I bought it, same with the 20-D, both excellent values. Sunshinestore rocks.
 

BoogerMan

Well-Known Member
i am interested in this glass but i need to find out how tall it was first and i got an answer


Hi,thank you.the item is Height 9 inches (23 cm).

The product is available at present. Once you pay for it, I will send it out within today or tomorrow.

Sincerely

LUO

so i will be getting this today

Awesome thank you for getting that one! I can't wait to read your review and see a video! Looks like I need to save a little more now :)

Also my tracking just updated for the nano planet rigs from Kathy and they are going to be at my PO Box in the morning!!!! It sat in San Fran again for 5 days again but no big deal. Expect a nice review tomorrow :D
 
Does anyone have a video of the WP-1095 from sunshine store by chance? I tried checking back through this thread for one but couldnt find one.
 
UprightMonkey,

SunnyHours

Well-Known Member
I want that piece but the shipping isnt free and I cant stomach paying almost as much for shipping as the piece costs.
OK. So I kept searching (that damn Glass Acquisition Syndrome) and stumbled across this.

:drool:

My cousin and I will split the cost. Around 70 US shipped. It will be our smoking piece when we get together.

Edit: I'm baked. The reason I post this is because I wanted to see if anyone has a video of this. I couldn't find one on google or youtube. Thanks if you can upload one. :)

Just so you guys know, I ordered 3 pieces and shipping was 45$ so just 10$ more than for 1 piece...just a thought. You have to contact him for combined shipping...
 

ou812?

Well-Known Member
Anyone care to lend an eye or a brain? is this rig defunct? http://www.dhgate.com/product/hand-made-four-layer-tyre-perculator-glass/194217770.html#cppd-3-5|null:1

Cant tell if the draw tube is pinned on the bottom and used as a reinforcement or are both connections from the draw tube open?, if so this rig would not work ,correct? We have seen rigs before looking some what functional until you look closer.Any input welcomed, looked like a good piece for my vape(solo) throw an adapter on the male your good to go!
 

Ano

FC Lover
I just received the Pinnacle WT clone from SunshineStore/Mike's store on AliExpress (free shipping on AE, ~$30 shipping on DH), and I wanted to say : the piece I got looks and feels like it's of greater quality than the one pictured in the product description.

It has more slits and generally feels better made.

I was a bit afraid that this piece might look a bit cheap when viewing it on AE, but it actually looks great and sturdy !

Just wanted to post this as this piece seems to get some attention lately.


Edit: I just checked, and it looks exactly like the one on the DHgate product page.
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
You'll notice Jhan's discs are a closer together than the Sunshine Store piece which I'm guessing might affect the function but some around here will probably know better than me.

This is what I'd really like to know. The video you linked shows the water level climbing pretty high so we might be okay in that regard and I had already considered that I would fill the water up a little higher since it does not have one of those defuser stems that evenly distributes the smoke below the honeycombs. That way the smoke doesn't climb up without going through the water (as I've seen some slosh and the smoke clears without going through water).

Thanks for your input.

Just so you guys know, I ordered 3 pieces and shipping was 45$ so just 10$ more than for 1 piece...just a thought. You have to contact him for combined shipping...

Nah. We're ordering one piece to split. Not splitting a large order. I'll have to wait for the sidecar bubbler. :/
 

Anonymouse

Sith I care
Anyone care to lend an eye or a brain? is this rig defunct? http://www.dhgate.com/product/hand-made-four-layer-tyre-perculator-glass/194217770.html#cppd-3-5|null:1

Cant tell if the draw tube is pinned on the bottom and used as a reinforcement or are both connections from the draw tube open?, if so this rig would not work ,correct? We have seen rigs before looking some what functional until you look closer.Any input welcomed, looked like a good piece for my vape(solo) throw an adapter on the male your good to go!

Both are open, but it'll still work as the water level prevents gas flowing up the lower opening. It's a recycler, but a boring one that doesn't even try to whirlpool. :c

And yes, the downstem would be stronger if braced, but the lack of brace doesn't affect function, just durability.

This is what I'd really like to know. The video you linked shows the water level climbing pretty high so we might be okay in that regard and I had already considered that I would fill the water up a little higher since it does not have one of those defuser stems that evenly distributes the smoke below the honeycombs. That way the smoke doesn't climb up without going through the water (as I've seen some slosh and the smoke clears without going through water).

We pump smoke or vapour through water for two reasons; to moisten it for comfort (moisture conditioning), and to mix it for smoothness (diffusion). Not a lot of of either happens while the bubbles are traveling up through a water column, because the relative water pressure keeps the bubbles small and offers relatively less surface area to exchange water vapour into each bubble. The magic happens in the "stack", the column of foam and/or froth that forms above the perc. Here the bubbles are expanding (free from the water pressure), and are much larger than they are below the water column, offering much more surface area to exchange gas and thus pick up more water (vapour). The lower pressure only further enhances the efficiency of moisture pick-up, as does the presence of tiny droplets as well as bubble films at this point, further enhancing surface-area-to-volume ratio of the liquid in the can, so you can see why this stage is where most water is collected, and most moisture conditioning happens. Also, the bursting and shape-changing action of the bubbles in the stack makes them act as pumps actively squishing their contents around, diffusing the air and vapour droplet mix trapped within much more so than the much more uniform bubbles rising through the water column below the stack will. So again with diffusion, as with moisture conditioning, the stack is where most of the action happens. Do not fear the "slosh".


The spacing of the three honeycomb discs affects the total stack height the piece can make, but there'll also be a minimum draw rate that will allow the foam to climb to the highest disc level, and the closer the discs are together, the lower the speed at which you can draw and still get all three discs to fully fire. The further apart they are, the higher the possible total stack that can be formed spanning those discs (thus more potential diffusion/conditioning), but this higher stack will take more flow to maintain, and thus require more effort and a faster draw. Given that vapes tend to be more restrictive than smoking, you probably want closer discs because they'll give you more diffusion at a lower speed and with less effort. It won't stack as high on the clear but vape is much less harsh than smoke anyway so doesn't need a huge amount of conditioning.

Also, you don't need a pre-perc like that little stemline under a honeycomb to get the most out of it. The air void that forms under the disc will accomplish the distribution of air just fine. Not all the holes in a honeycomb will fire at once, even on a clear. The less aerated (or taller) the water column above a honeycomb, the fewer holes that fire as they block up with a combination of water surface tension and back-pressure. Such a pre-perc isn't totally useless; it'll slightly decrease the perceived drag at lower draw speeds (beause it's easier to pull an airier water mix through the small holes), but it'll also reduce the speed you can clear, and make the piece harder to clean, while adding cost and complexity. I have honeycombs with and without little stems under them and the performance is very similar. It's not a "feature" I'd be worried about, whether it was present or not.
 
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wilvape

Well-Known Member
I just received the Pinnacle WT clone from SunshineStore/Mike's store on AliExpress (free shipping on AE, ~$30 shipping on DH), and I wanted to say : the piece I got looks and feels like it's of greater quality than the one pictured in the product description.

It has more slits and generally feels better made.

I was a bit afraid that this piece might look a bit cheap when viewing it on AE, but it actually looks great and sturdy !

Just wanted to post this as this piece seems to get some attention lately.


Edit: I just checked, and it looks exactly like the one on the DHgate product page.


I bought 2 of these , I already own the f-bomb and pin w/t. These are my go to pieces, I prefer these , no mouth splash, easier to empty and keep clean, would highly recommend.

Will
 

SSVUN~YAH

You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
I just received the Pinnacle WT clone from SunshineStore/Mike's store on AliExpress (free shipping on AE, ~$30 shipping on DH), and I wanted to say : the piece I got looks and feels like it's of greater quality than the one pictured in the product description.

It has more slits and generally feels better made.

I was a bit afraid that this piece might look a bit cheap when viewing it on AE, but it actually looks great and sturdy !

Just wanted to post this as this piece seems to get some attention lately.


Edit: I just checked, and it looks exactly like the one on the DHgate product page.
Good looking out for 18$ delivered I had passed on this long enough, trigger pulled GAS relieved, ahhh...
 

ou812?

Well-Known Member
Both are open, but it'll still work as the water level prevents gas flowing up the lower opening. It's a recycler, but a boring one that doesn't even try to whirlpool. :c

And yes, the downstem would be stronger if braced, but the lack of brace doesn't affect function, just durability.





Thank You :tup: I agree it is a boring one, I would luv one that does have an awesome vortex like a Mothership Incycler or any real high end recylers I see by PHOTO-RIDER, his are off the chart!! But I cant afford,and the cheapie one that you helped me with just might be acceptable to me, it looks well built and good size for Solo,not too big,not too small and I enjoy the cntr intake,keeps things sitting securely,no tipping over and maybe a better flava over a standard non recylcer . I see the pendant recylcers and I have no use for them due to my hands being big and arthritic, I think they look awesome but not for me. Btoc has a Hitman funnel knock off but hopefully the other glass merchants we deal with will get them in as well at a better price,that one is going out for 76$$ IIRC :\
and hopefully we will find a test subject (dont want to call anyone a dummy, derogative towards the few members that do take one for the team:))

This thread will nver die with all of us who are glass junkies, which I am guilty of, but in denial with pleasure :clap:
 
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Anonymouse

Sith I care
You can get the Hitman double barrel clone from Kathy too, for US$39 plus shipping, but shipping is free to the US, Aus, and probably a lot of other places too on that piece. Much cheaper than Btoc, so hopefully it's actually the same thing. I think people have received Kathy's version by now and given it the all-clear?

Also, I don't know that the one you asked about would conserve a lot of flavour compared to a conventional piece, as it has quite a large volume for a recycler. It seems to just use the return line for splash guard functionality only.
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
Both are open, but it'll still work as the water level prevents gas flowing up the lower opening. It's a recycler, but a boring one that doesn't even try to whirlpool. :c

And yes, the downstem would be stronger if braced, but the lack of brace doesn't affect function, just durability.



We pump smoke or vapour through water for two reasons; to moisten it for comfort (moisture conditioning), and to mix it for smoothness (diffusion). Not a lot of of either happens while the bubbles are traveling up through a water column, because the relative water pressure keeps the bubbles small and offers relatively less surface area to exchange water vapour into each bubble. The magic happens in the "stack", the column of foam and/or froth that forms above the perc. Here the bubbles are expanding (free from the water pressure), and are much larger than they are below the water column, offering much more surface are to exchange gas and thus pick up more water. The lower pressure only further enhances the efficiency of moisture pick-up, as does the presence of tiny droplets as well as bubble films at this point, further enhancing surface-area-to-volume ratio of the liquid in the can, so you can see why this stage is where most water is collected, and most moisture conditioning happens. Also, the bursting and shape-changing action of the bubbles in the stack makes them act as pumps actively squishing their contents around, diffusing the air and vapour droplet mix much more than the much more uniform bubbles rising through the water column below the stack. So again, this is where most of the diffusion happens too. Do not fear the "slosh".

The spacing of the three honeycomb discs affects the total stack height the piece can make, but there'll also be a minimum draw rate that will allow the foam to climb to the highest disc level, and the closer the discs are together, the lower the speed at which you can draw and still get all three discs to fully fire. The further apart they are, the higher the possible total stack that can be formed spanning those discs (thus more potential diffusion/conditioning), but this higher stack will take more flow to maintain, and thus require more effort and a faster draw. Given that vapes tend to be more restrictive than smoking, you probably want closer discs because they'll give you more diffusion at a lower speed and with less effort. It won't stack as high on the clear but vape is much less harsh than smoke anyway so doesn't need a huge amount of conditioning.

Also, you don't need a pre-perc like that little stemline under a honeycomb to get the most out of it. The air void that forms under the disc will accomplish the distribution of air just fine. Not all the holes in a honeycomb will fire at once, even on a clear. The less aerated (or taller) the water column above a honeycomb, the fewer holes that fire as they block up with a combination of water surface tension and back-pressure. Such a pre-perc isn't totally useless; it'll slightly decrease the perceived drag at lower draw speeds (beause it's easier to pull an airier water mix through the small holes), but it'll also reduce the speed you can clear, and make the piece harder to clean, while adding cost and complexity. I have honeycombs with and without little stems under them and the performance is very similar. It's not a "feature" I'd be worried about, whether it was present or not.

If I understood your last part then I want the pricier bong because the three discs will require more pull on the cheaper one.

Although there is one thing I should mention. This bong won't be used with a vape. We'll be using it with a nail and the bowl piece (we still combust occasionally).

Does that change things? Would the draw make the 'combs work in this instance? (no vape)

I'll bring it up to my cousin. It sounds like we'll want that pricier version.

Edit: Also it sounds like what I should have looked for is a percolator for defusion. I really like those honeycombs though so I think I'll stick with them.
 
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BoogerMan

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i am interested in this glass but i need to find out how tall it was first and i got an answer


Hi,thank you.the item is Height 9 inches (23 cm).

The product is available at present. Once you pay for it, I will send it out within today or tomorrow.

Sincerely

LUO

so i will be getting this today

Thank You :tup: I agree it is a boring one, I would luv one that does have an awesome vortex like a Mothership Incycler or any real high end recylers I see by PHOTO-RIDER, his are off the chart!! But I cant afford,and the cheapie one that you helped me with just might be acceptable to me, it looks well built and good size for Solo,not too big,not too small and I enjoy the cntr intake,keeps things sitting securely,no tipping over and maybe a better flava over a standard non recylcer . I see the pendant recylcers and I have no use for them due to my hands being big and arthritic, I think they look awesome but not for me. Btoc has a Hitman funnel knock off but hopefully the other glass merchants we deal with will get them in as well at a better price,that one is going out for 76$$ IIRC :\
and hopefully we will find a test subject (dont want to call anyone a dummy, derogative towards the few members that do take one for the team:))

This thread will nver die with all of us who are glass junkies, which I am guilty of, but in denial with pleasure :clap:

@ou812? See the first quote. It looks like hopefully @ovrez picked up the hitman funnel knock off :)

And definitely not a DUMMY lol ;) but a wonderful person that will help us decide if this glass is going to help possibly cure our future GAS! :D

@Anonymouse thank you for your post. That was one of the most informative and interesting things I have read all week. My knowledge continues to increase everyday because of this thread and site :clap::tup::rockon::bowdown::haw::nod:
 

ovrez

Well-Known Member
@ou812? See the first quote. It looks like hopefully @ovrez picked up the hitman funnel knock off :)

And definitely not a DUMMY lol ;) but a wonderful person that will help us decide if this glass is going to help possibly cure our future GAS! :D

@Anonymouse thank you for your post. That was one of the most informative and interesting things I have read all week. My knowledge continues to increase everyday because of this thread and site :clap::tup::rockon::bowdown::haw::nod:

it shows as shipped, now we will see how fast it gets here.

PO #: 1461087ooo
DateTracking number Shipping
2014-06-21 22:21:27 LN365621oooCN ePacket


i can say that out of all the sellers, IMO BTOC ships the fastest to me (Wa.),
and packs his glass bombproof,i will take pictures when the jh017 gets here

i am curious, how do all of you that communicate with the sellers?
i start off with

Hello, I hope all is good for you today

and end with

Thank You
Your Friend, Richard

plus i try to be friendly whatever i type.

where i work we sell our products TO china and the rest of the world.
and after talking to the guys that go over there, they say that to be very nice when communicating
goes a long way to making transactions easy

i am telling you all this as i did not pay full price for the jh017,
and when i use BTOC now i get a price break all the time

just shows it does pay to be nice
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
look at this one... it looks like a penetrated natural perc. Not sure who is getting copied on this one... http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-come-10mm-mini-glass-bong-mini-water/196103970.html

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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
New adapters from Kathy0577 @ 2 for 7.39 instead of paying 10 on ebay for one - http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/sto...down&sinfo=operatedate&pt=1&searchSource=sort.
I didn't really need these, but I knew I would some time and I thought this would be a way for me to test out Kathy shipping without spending much. I hope this is a trend (China selling adapters in small quantities), because adapters off Ebay are getting expensive (unless compared to LHS prices). The downside, of course, is all the bubble wrap and other shipping waste.
 

Dangus

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

canj00digit?

All my days in a daze...
You can get the Hitman double barrel clone from Kathy too, for US$39 plus shipping, but shipping is free to the US, Aus, and probably a lot of other places too on that piece. Much cheaper than Btoc, so hopefully it's actually the same thing. I think people have received Kathy's version by now and given it the all-clear?

Also, I don't know that the one you asked about would conserve a lot of flavour compared to a conventional piece, as it has quite a large volume for a recycler. It seems to just use the return line for splash guard functionality only.

I got the Hitman double barrel clone from BTOC for $54AU delivered.
It was delivered extremely fast also (about 3 days), and oddly, a first for a China piece, it was shipped from Sydney. Or re-shipped from Sydney. I don't know exactly.

Anyway, I love the damn thing as an oil rig. With my E-nano the restriction makes it less fun to it but it's still good. But using a quartz castle nail for oil really makes this little rig shine. You can rip the hell out it. And it's recycling function is quite pleasant in affect, nothing at all to look at (but who cares at this price).
 

BoogerMan

Well-Known Member
I got the 10mm nano rigs in from Kathy today!

I am very pleased with the quality. They are better than most other items I have ordered from Kathy. Looks like Kathy is getting better :)

5mm thick on this tiny thing so it holds its weight for its size :)

The perc is a single hole so it chugs but has great flavor. I wish the stem went all the way to the bottom and had 2-3 small holes but it's hard to complain for under $30 haha :D

I really like this one from Kathy so I may give it a shot a little later. It reminds me of a bug or dinosaur or something lol. I just ordered a Colie Glass slyme green recycler (found on max quality glass) so my GAS has to slow down for a month or so. It doesn't quite qualify for the cheap category but I thought I'd share a little pic :)

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-glass-bong-glass-water-pipe-oil-rig-bubbler/194443957.html

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BoogerMan

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Just a quick question for those who have purchased from Kathy. How terrible are the glass nail they come with?

From what I know they are fine. They are like any cheap glass nail at a LHS. They won't last that long though because they are glass but they work okay while they last.

I would grab a cheap quartz nail on eBay or a titanium nail from New-vape.com
Either of those will be a lot better than the glass nails and they will last a lot longer :D
 
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