Cheap High Quality Bubbler

Anonymouse

Sith I care
...I received my cranberry extract...

The *only* problem is that you must change the water practically every other day to prevent anything from 'growing' (boy was that a nasty lesson to learn).

Two days is pretty fast. You might be using a lot more extract than you need to interfere with resin adhesion.

If that's not the case, though, consider mixing up your jug of red water to have about 5-8% ethanol content. Using Everclear or grain alcohol is probably cheapest if an option where you live, but otherwise diluted vodka works just as well. Perfectly safe to hit through, but now you should have no issues with stuff reproducing in there, or at the very least a much longer period between needing water changes.


My D20-Q will be here here next week. I think it's going to be a showpiece to play with when friends come over, but not much else. I'm concerned about blowback as the water settles back into the lower chamber.

Due to the one small channel between base and can, and the piece's huge reciprocal volume (relative to most designs), the thing won't so much "blow back" as "pump back". This isn't just the water refilling the stem like with most pieces; all the water lifted into the top can must drain back, and since the small opening doesn't allow any gas to pass up into the can while water is flowing like most percs will, a volume of air the same as the the volume of water that drains must be must instead be forced out the input joint to equalise pressure. It'll happen a lot slower than the "puff" you see on a more open perc design, but it'll all be slowly pumped out over the water draining duration. Might not push the load out your bowl if combusting, but it might cherry it into fire with the slow, sustained flow.

But then, as has been said multiple times, this is a ridiculously impractical piece. You wouldn't want it as a regular tool, but as a novelty, it looks like a lot of fun. For the price it is, it'll pay for itself just sitting there to break out occasionally to show friends the wacky whirlpool. If you wind up using it any more than that, bonus.

Hmm. I was liking the male style joints on the first two bubblers I linked, and would want that if getting a bubbler.

On the bong I do like the female joint because it's wide and would just look comical with a conical opening. At least to me. And you are probably right about the splash guard. I wouldn't know.

I'm probably liking the style more than the function on the male vs. female joint thing. But show me what you had in mind for my needs please. Doesn't hurt to look it over and come to a conclusion on if I want it or not. :)

The female joint, with its thick, reinforced lip, is WAY more durable than the male joint, and going to stand up to accidental knocks better. For general purpose use, it's probably the joint you want. The only advantage to a native male joint is the ability to use an old-fashioned separate-dome nail without needing an adapter.

Sometimes technological development gets in its own way. If we had started dabbing with domeless nails, designed for the pieces that already existed, we'd never even have had male pieces, and thus a lot more hardware would work happily together without adapters. The early dab designs used a a male-to-male adapter to hold the nail and dome, designed to fit conventional female pieces, but after these had been around a while and grown in popularity, people started to make glass with native male input that didn't need the adapter. Now such pieces are all over the place causing an unnecessary schism in the market and lots of end-user confusion, and they don't seem to be going anywhere.

Still, given vapes and combustion bowls are all still virtually universally male output, and now a whole lot of new-style domeless nails are too, female input is clearly the smart bet for durabilility, flexibility, and compatibility.
 
Last edited:

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
1pcs-glass-pipes-glass-bubbler-glass-glass.jpg


I was checking out the glass porn on Dhgate. In the future I might want to get this, It's only
15cm. Does anyone have any experience with this rig? I would be using it with my Solo.
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
Thanks for all the replies guys. I do like that green bubbler.

I'm sad to say that I may have to push my purchase date back. I got infuriated today and smashed a window with my fist.

It was like an I should have stopped myself and maybe could have but didn't want to and just went ahead.

I felt a lot better after and must say releasing your anger is soothing. I never did that before! I was always very calm and collected.

I do have a slightly injured hand now but it's still loads better than seething in anger for so long. Phew. :cheerful:

I live on a fixed income. I'll try to pick one up next month but will have to give priority to the window if I can't. But thanks for all the replies and I'm still interested in that mythical double honeycomb 40 dollar bubbler. If you see it let me know!
 
thisperson,
  • Like
Reactions: BoogerMan

Anonymouse

Sith I care
I've never tried a bong with warm water but will definitely look it up. I hadn't considered the condensation but wouldn't mind paying some of it if it means in exchange I get an icy hit. Those are so smooth and are a whole 'nother smoking experience for me. Like breathing in concentrated cool morning mist. At least that's what I remember.

Most of the irritation experienced in the lungs after a hit is caused by relatively dry air pulling moisture off the surface of wet lung tissue by evaopouration. Two factor increase evapouration, temperature (higher temp, more evapouration), and relative humidity (higher humidity, less evapouration).

The warm water hit contains much higher humidity than the ice hit, because the warmer liquid evapourates much more readily. Now, while the temp difference each way is almost gone by the time the hit reaches your lung tissue, the extra water the warm hit carries isn't, and the fact that this hit is saturated with lots of extra water means it has less "room" to pick up further water from your warm lungflesh, and thus dries them out less than the ice hit will.

The slight numbing sensation on the back of the throat from the blast of cool air might psychosomatically increase the sense of smoothness, but they'll still fatigue your lungs faster than a "wetter" warm hit will. Indeed, ice after the percolation action will actually act to strip water vapour that the perc has added, by condensing it on cold glass and ice, actively drying the hit even as it cools it. Counter-intuitively, you don't actually lose a lot of resin to condensation with ice, as the resin is already condensed long before it gets to the ice, and the little airborne droplets it's become actually stick more readily to warm surfaces than cooler ones, but you definitely lose water vapour, which is still in gas phase and readily condenses on any surface cooler than it is.

Basically, if you're gonna sit down and just do lungbusters until you cough so hard you can't continue, you'll get a lot more goodness down your neck hitting it warm than you will cold, and probably less irregular coughing between sessions, too. The warm vapour might not feel as subjectively comfortable as the icy stuff during the actual hit, but it'll make you feel a lot less discomfort in between, and get a lot more into you.


The only other one I liked that I found is like the bong Boogerman linked to me.

It's just a bit shorter but I'm thinking I might need a splash guard as he said. So for ten dollars more I get four more inches. Although I really wanted a small'ish piece.

A turbine (what you called a "second disk as a twister") IS a splash guard. And it's a really nifty type that makes things spin when you clear.

What are my options in single honeycomb style with a wide bottom, anyone know? Going back to searching, although I don't recall finding very many.

My first option may be my best. I know that since it's so cheap I may as well buy them all to try but I don't have a lot of money and live on a fixed income, plus I'm very picky. Just have been since I was a kid and want my perfect piece.

So to recap, if any of you can help me...

I want a small'ish/medium'ish bubbler with a honey comb design and a wide base. I would prefer if the base were part of the water chamber and not just an exposed flat disk. If it has a second disk as a twister (as I've seen on some skinny ones) that is okay. I don't really care for it either way. I do prefer a female connection in 14 or 18 mm. I am willing to look at both style mouthpieces.

If you've seen something that fits my needs anywhere on the web for 40 dollars or less please let me know.

Has this been suggested yet? It's basically everything you asked for, and only US$20 plus shipping (which I think is free to the US).
d020-2-w-glass-water-smoking-pipe-with-two.jpg

Single honeycomb, turbine splashguard, wide base, dirt cheap, the male joint you wanted, and it's even sidecar, which gives a good view of the action in the can when you are using it. A few people have received them now and all given positive reviews.

Comes with dome/nail setup, and female combustion bowl.
d020-2-w-glass-water-smoking-pipe-with-two.jpg

1.0x0.jpg


I'd have one already if it was female input (and had clear discs). I think it'd actually be a better piece for flowers than dabs, anyway, since it's relatively high volume and high diffusion.

If you get free shipping to your location, I don't see why you wouldn't try this one (hell, you could easily resell it for a profit if you don't like it). If you have to pay for shipping, though, the GB-187 might be the better buy. It's not what you described but I think you'd be even happier with it.
 
Last edited:

MinnBobber

Well-Known Member
Sorry to repeat but I want to know what cheap piece is a clone of the Mobius Ion, either the matrix perc version or the reti perc version. And a link to best seller for that piece please.
I think I saw that here but can't find it again.
I'm in US.
Lightweight user, most interested in the best flavor. Never combust. Only for my use and sometimes my wife.
So, I think small volume vessel and minimal diffusion would be best??

I'm thinking about the real thing but others have wisely suggested, try the cheap version first to make sure it fits your needs.

Want female joint, 14mm preferred. Will likely connect my vaporizer with the MFLB water whip.
Recent sidecar posting looks interesting but double diffusion is too much, I think....
Thanks for any help!!!
 
MinnBobber,
  • Like
Reactions: SSVUN~YAH

MuushuPork

Well-Known Member
Two days is pretty fast. You might be using a lot more extract than you need to interfere with resin adhesion.

If that's not the case, though, consider mixing up your jug of red water to have about 5-8% ethanol content. Using Everclear or grain alcohol is probably cheapest if an option where you live, but otherwise diluted vodka works just as well. Perfectly safe to hit through, but now you should have no issues with stuff reproducing in there, or at the very least a much longer period between needing water changes.




Due to the one small channel between base and can, and the piece's huge reciprocal volume (relative to most designs), the thing won't so much "blow back" as "pump back". This isn't just the water refilling the stem like with most pieces; all the water lifted into the top can must drain back, and since the small opening doesn't allow any gas to pass up into the can while water is flowing like most percs will, a volume of air the same as the the volume of water that drains must be must instead be forced out the input joint to equalise pressure. It'll happen a lot slower than the "puff" you see on a more open perc design, but it'll all be slowly pumped out over the water draining duration. Might not push the load out your bowl if combusting, but it might cherry it into fire with the slow, sustained flow.

But then, as has been said multiple times, this is a ridiculously impractical piece. You wouldn't want it as a regular tool, but as a novelty, it looks like a lot of fun. For the price it is, it'll pay for itself just sitting there to break out occasionally to show friends the wacky whirlpool. If you wind up using it any more than that, bonus.



The female joint, with its thick, reinforced lip, is WAY more durable than the male joint, and going to stand up to accidental knocks better. For general purpose use, it's probably the joint you want. The only advantage to a native male joint is the ability to use an old-fashioned separate-dome nail without needing an adapter.

Sometimes technological development gets in its own way. If we had started dabbing with domeless nails, designed for the pieces that already existed, we'd never even have had male pieces, and thus a lot more hardware would work happily together without adapters. The early dab designs used a a male-to-male adapter to hold the nail and dome, designed to fit conventional female pieces, but after these had been around a while and grown in popularity, people started to make glass with native male input that didn't need the adapter. Now such pieces are all over the place causing an unnecessary schism in the market and lots of end-user confusion, and they don't seem to be going anywhere.

Still, given vapes and combustion bowls are all still virtually universally male output, and now a whole lot of new-style domeless nails are too, female input is clearly the smart bet for durabilility, flexibility, and compatibility.

When I first went to my LHS after finding this thread, I looked around to compare quality and maybe get an idea of what I wanted. Out of hundreds of expensive pieces maybe 2 had female joints.
 

Anonymouse

Sith I care
When I first went to my LHS after finding this thread, I looked around to compare quality and maybe get an idea of what I wanted. Out of hundreds of expensive pieces maybe 2 had female joints.

This is because from the perspective of glass blowers, almost all of the market is either smoking or dabbing. We flower vapers don't get a lot of consideration (how many vapour-dedicated designs can you think of besides Hydratubes?). The male pieces are in fashion, and they appeal to industry even if they aren't actually any better for the end user, as having two form factors of glassware lets them push the idea that you need (or "should" have) a dedicated piece for each method of delivery, which translates into more total sales. It also doesn't hurt that male-input pieces are more likely to be accidentally damaged, and need replacement...

I'd like to see male pieces quietly die out over the next few years, but I don't think it's going to happen. Outside of tiny dab rigs there's no advantage over female joints (and if using a male domeless nail this advantage is negated too), but plenty of disadvantages. Much like everything else, though, marketing efforts will drive what we adopt more than suitability for purpose. :c
 
Last edited:

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Sorry to repeat but I want to know what cheap piece is a clone of the Mobius Ion, either the matrix perc version or the reti perc version. And a link to best seller for that piece please.
I think I saw that here but can't find it again.
I'm in US.
Lightweight user, most interested in the best flavor. Never combust. Only for my use and sometimes my wife.
So, I think small volume vessel and minimal diffusion would be best??

I'm thinking about the real thing but others have wisely suggested, try the cheap version first to make sure it fits your needs.

Want female joint, 14mm preferred. Will likely connect my vaporizer with the MFLB water whip.
Recent sidecar posting looks interesting but double diffusion is too much, I think....
Thanks for any help!!!

You're talking about the GB-187, which is currently sold out. To be honest, I am not sure how you missed any mention of probably the current MVP of the Cheap Glass. If you message Yingmin5 through DHgate, he might be able to hook you up or at least let you know when singles are coming back online for sale. This is an 18mm female DeWaar joint, not sure that fits your stated requirement.
 

ovrez

Well-Known Member
I was afraid that would be the case with the JH018. Thanks for pulling the trigger and being the test dummy for everyone else!

Now does anyone want to buy the JH017 and test it out for everyone lol?

I think this one will function a lot better since it is a knock off of the Hitman to Funnel Recycler :D I would be the test dummy but I am saving up for a few other items first :tup:

JH017:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/1pcs-glass-pipes-glass-bubbler-glass-glass/193212453.html


i am interested in this glass but i need to find out how tall it was first and i got an answer


Hi,thank you.the item is Height 9 inches (23 cm).

The product is available at present. Once you pay for it, I will send it out within today or tomorrow.

Sincerely

LUO

so i will be getting this today
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
.
A turbine (what you called a "second disk as a twister") IS a splash guard. And it's a really nifty type that makes things spin when you clear.

Has this been suggested yet? It's basically everything you asked for, and only US$20 plus shipping (which I think is free to the US).
Single honeycomb, turbine splashguard, wide base, dirt cheap, the male joint you wanted, and it's even sidecar, which gives a good view of the action in the can when you are using it. A few people have received them now and all given positive reviews.

Comes with dome/nail setup, and female combustion bowl.

I'd have one already if it was female input (and had clear discs). I think it'd actually be a better piece for flowers than dabs, anyway, since it's relatively high volume and high diffusion.

If you get free shipping to your location, I don't see why you wouldn't try this one (hell, you could easily resell it for a profit if you don't like it). If you have to pay for shipping, though, the GB-187 might be the better buy. It's not what you described but I think you'd be even happier with it.

OMG! I loved that little thing upon looking at it. I think I have a winner. It comes out to 31.96 with shipping to the US for me.

When I said male joint I meant it to mean mouthpiece. I didn't know what to call them and went like, well it curves in...male joint. It is a wide mouthpiece. Female joint.

Sorry for the confusion. I'm really kind of a newb as you can see.

If I find that exact thing in female stem type I'll pick it up. If I can't I'll pick up this one.

Edit: I found it odd that you complained about the blue disks. That's one of the things I loved about it. (Probably my favorite color since I am a boy and I defaulted instead of giving a shit growing up)
 

Scott A

Well-Known Member

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Couple questions im sorry if they have been answered before but I tried to look for them through the search function.

1. Has anyone ordered the pinnacle pro style water tube from sunshine store? Just wondering what its like
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/pinnacle-pro-glass-smoking-water-pipe-vaporblunt/184494946.html

2. Does it typically take 10-15 days of processing time like it says on their items?

3. whats the opinion on the d020-D?


1. Yes but not me.
2. Yes on average depending on your location and YMMV
3. AWESOME!!!! IMO, but many others have gone for the GB-187 instead.
 
Mister G,
  • Like
Reactions: SSVUN~YAH

Anonymouse

Sith I care
When I said male joint I meant it to mean mouthpiece. I didn't know what to call them and went like, well it curves in...male joint. It is a wide mouthpiece. Female joint.

Damn, dude. Way to totally make me waste a rant. :c

The terms you're looking for are probably "flared" mouthpiece for flared outwards and "sipper" for flared inwards (or "cobra" if the bulge is also flattened horizontally). I feel there's also another common term for sippers but it's just not coming to mind ATM. (Some people call them "bubbler" mouthpieces but a bubbler can technically have any style of mouthpiece; the distinction between bubbler and bong is about layout.)

I prefer sippers too, though they do present a somewhat higher chance of accidentally chipping a tooth. You're much less likely to potentially drool into your piece from draw back-pressure, compared to a flared mouthpiece, though (especially a wide flare, or downward-facing one), and that's a much more common slip-up than tooth-chipping.

The male/female thing refers to which part of a connection plugs into the other.

Edit: I found it odd that you complained about the blue disks. That's one of the things I loved about it. (Probably my favorite color since I am a boy and I defaulted instead of giving a shit growing up)

Most of us that like scientific glass prefer it to be featureless and clear. Functional beauty, yay! China seems to think we're obsessed with colour though, as they seem to work it into a lot of cheapie designs. When you see enough such pieces you start to associate the prescence of coloured disc percs with "looking cheap" (since it's MUCH less common to see these discs used by American or European blowers). Won't affect function though so if that's your bag go for it.
 
Last edited:

pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
Sorry to repeat but I want to know what cheap piece is a clone of the Mobius Ion, either the matrix perc version or the reti perc version. And a link to best seller for that piece please.
I think I saw that here but can't find it again.
I'm in US.
Lightweight user, most interested in the best flavor. Never combust. Only for my use and sometimes my wife.
So, I think small volume vessel and minimal diffusion would be best??

I'm thinking about the real thing but others have wisely suggested, try the cheap version first to make sure it fits your needs.

Want female joint, 14mm preferred. Will likely connect my vaporizer with the MFLB water whip.
Recent sidecar posting looks interesting but double diffusion is too much, I think....
Thanks for any help!!!

The D020 has a Reti-like perc, and there's a couple more china pieces that are matrix-like.
The GB 187 (sold out at the moment) and the D020-D:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d020-d-bubbler-hand-blown-glass-water-percolator/187214099.html
D02_X_and_GB187.jpg

D020-------------------------D020-W--------------D020-D---------------GB187

I don't think there's gonna be a whole lotta difference between these as far as taste. Matrix perc - smoother? D020 - smaller/less diffusion. I'd buy the China glass first, at least untlil you know how you like it. And maybe you'll find it's all you need.

Female joint no problem, but these are all 19mm
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
Damn, dude. Way to totally make me waste a rant. :c

The terms you're looking for are probably "flared" mouthpiece for flared outwards and "sipper" for flared inwards (or "cobra" if the bulge is also flattened horizontally). I feel there's also another common term for sippers but it's just not coming to mind ATM. (Some people call them "bubbler" mouthpieces but a bubbler can technically have any style of mouthpiece; the distinction between bubbler and bong is about layout.)

I prefer sippers too, though they do present a somewhat higher chance of accidentally chipping a tooth. You're much less likely to potentially drool into your piece from draw back-pressure, compared to a flared mouthpiece, though (especially a wide flare, or downward-facing one), and that's a much more common slip-up than tooth-chipping.

The male/female thing refers to which part of a connection plugs into the other.



Most of us that like scientific glass prefer it to be featureless and clear. Functional beauty, yay! China seems to thing we're obsessed with colour though, as they seem to work it into a lot of cheapie designs. When you see enough such pieces you start to associate the prescence of coloured disc percs with "looking cheap" (since it's MUCH less common to see these discs used by American or European blowers). Won't affect function though so if that's your bag go for it.

You're my hero. :)
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I really have no more space in my glass cabinet, and that is with all my pieces pushed as close together as I feel comfortable doing. :science:
Sounds like were both in the same boat!

I have to rebuilt my medication room before I get more glass.
Yesterday I was banging the pieces together and getting nervous from the clanging noise. Plus the strains are so good right now how do I expect to use all my stuff without passing out?
 

421

Well-Known Member

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
i ended up buying this new piece from kathy. no idea how good it will be, was looking from something small that could hold ice, this fit the bill nicely at 12". will post a mini-review when i get it. hopefully the e-nano will fit on that stem, didn't realize when i bought it how little clearance there is from there to the main tube.

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-two-function-12-quot-inches-4-big-arm/195597073.html

J6abIp5.jpg

Nice! I like the cobalt blue. One thing to keep in mind - ice is better for combustion smoke. For vaping, warm water is actually preferred
 
Last edited by a moderator:

ovrez

Well-Known Member
I want that piece but the shipping isnt free and I cant stomach paying almost as much for shipping as the piece costs.

i notice on the sunshinestore that things costs more , i would try to find it at another

I'm almost positive the nano will fit that. The nano fits perfectly fine on a bubbler I have with a similar joint and spacing, the GB-186.

temp2.0x0.jpg


i just measured mine, and it is right at 1-3/16" from the center of the 18mm joint to the outside of the can, give or take .025, just using calipers
 
Last edited by a moderator:

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
OK. So I kept searching (that damn Glass Acquisition Syndrome) and stumbled across this.

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/qb-003-glass-water-pipe-with-3-honeycomb/185773618.html

qb-003-glass-water-pipe-with-3-honeycomb.jpg


:drool:

My cousin and I will split the cost. Around 70 US shipped. It will be our smoking piece when we get together.

Edit: I'm baked. The reason I post this is because I wanted to see if anyone has a video of this. I couldn't find one on google or youtube. Thanks if you can upload one. :)
 

Richy

Frequently up in space with Bowie
For only $20 more you could get a Jhan Pixel 16' triple honeycomb with 5mm thick glass for $90 with the FC discount. Personally I feel the quality looks a lot better so I'd be tempted to pay that little bit extra for a piece made by a quality artist. Here's a video of it in action in case you're interested.


You'll notice Jhan's discs are a closer together than the Sunshine Store piece which I'm guessing might affect the function but some around here will probably know better than me.

Edit: I forgot to say that Jhan is a member on these forums, user name @redglassgallery, and has a thread here. The stuff he sells on iOffer are basically unbranded AEON Glass pieces which is why the quality is so good.
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom