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Jeppy said there was no case according to him, this scientific study seems to prove otherwise.
darkrom
Great Scott!
I thought we were done talking about "psychosis" and were back on CBD.
Looks like you'll have to order the oil via phone in late January. Really pissed that some clown made this harder for all of us. Can almost guarantee it was someone who stands to make a profit off of lesser CBd oil...
Looks like you'll have to order the oil via phone in late January. Really pissed that some clown made this harder for all of us. Can almost guarantee it was someone who stands to make a profit off of lesser CBd oil...
Maybe he will have new order system with the new site!?
I do not understand what you say Darkrom?
What relationship?
Now, if the analysis results not interested the members of FC (and you're ready to gobble everything a seller says without verification), it's OK for me, you will not me see here.
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darkrom
Great Scott!
I'm gunna be blunt, you showed up and started talking shit about one of the only sources of CBD that ACTUALLY WORKS, right around the same time they got reports against them on paypal. You seem to be pushing for something specific, but you haven't dropped the name yet unless its related to that kanavape crap, which also HAPPENS to be French. I'm not sure how you are ok with their cut (PEG OR PG) ecigs with cheap parts that may or may not pose their own health risks, yet you are very anti-omega.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but you sure seem to be ok with that prefilled ($$$$$) vape pen diluted with crap, but totally against Omega. I'm not sure why you are so confident that the kanavape is any safer, unless you know something the general public doesn't know...."somehow".
@snamuh it looks like direct contact via phone is going to be the primary/only method. The quality of the products offered by OL are my only concern. I will send smoke signals, war drums, messenger pigeons, what ever route is necessary to obtain these products. The politics of "hidden agenda" really do not affect me at all. Omega offers a great line of products that seem to be bringing new found relief to those in need. While it is sad to see the propaganda mafia, I just want to get more Nectar! The new ordering system will be extended to those folks who already have their personal info settled with OL. I look forward to a "secure" ordering platform that will hopefully be exempt from the people who have a negative vibe towards OL.
@darkrom the consistency of Nectar is very "sappy" . It is not the same state as BHO that I have tried. The taste of the Nectar is quite spicy on the tongue. I attribute this to the fact that CO2 extraction brings the carophyllene, hence the "pepper" taste on the palate. While I have never tried CO2 extractions before, the Nectar carries more flavor than I have seen other CO2 oil based consumers express.
@darkrom the consistency of Nectar is very "sappy" . It is not the same state as BHO that I have tried. The taste of the Nectar is quite spicy on the tongue. I attribute this to the fact that CO2 extraction brings the carophyllene, hence the "pepper" taste on the palate. While I have never tried CO2 extractions before, the Nectar carries more flavor than I have seen other CO2 oil based consumers express.
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Darkrom:
I never say Kanavape good?
Propylen glycol is something I'm very suspicious, I also told Futaie by private message.
I just said that for France their initiative is interesting, but I will never buy their product because I look only for tinctures.
I was wary about OL because it is the only product that I wanted to advise my friends. As I read that there have been scams with extracts of CBD (Dixit, etc), I prefer to have the most information possible. On this thread, I have read also that some people wanted to know that contained the OL products...
However, if the community is against me (as my goal is to bring to the community, as she brought me with different opinions), it is no use as I continue here.
I said and repeat, I have nothing to do with this story Paypal!
I never say Kanavape good?
Propylen glycol is something I'm very suspicious, I also told Futaie by private message.
I just said that for France their initiative is interesting, but I will never buy their product because I look only for tinctures.
I was wary about OL because it is the only product that I wanted to advise my friends. As I read that there have been scams with extracts of CBD (Dixit, etc), I prefer to have the most information possible. On this thread, I have read also that some people wanted to know that contained the OL products...
However, if the community is against me (as my goal is to bring to the community, as she brought me with different opinions), it is no use as I continue here.
I said and repeat, I have nothing to do with this story Paypal!
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In a past email correspondence from Chris of OL, I believe that I recall he suggested that if I wished for a custom formulation he could accommodate. Of course we would not go over the legal limit of THC, but could perhaps double the potency of certain constituents that we find particularly beneficial for our conditions. I, for one, will be asking Chris to double or triple the potency of the Canabdol 3000 mg and Epiq Nectar 3000 mg, while keeping the low THC content where it is. These two OL products have been particularly effective for me post surgery, and generally on the mental/emotional status on various days. While I have been an OL client through the website, I have not received any email update pass code notice that may be needed for near-term future orders. Can someone provide the phone number as was mentioned above. Thanks, all!
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Jeppy
Pure Vaporist
$7 a day
Person
I dont think ol has sent out emails with that info yet. I am/had been signed up for 2 out of 3 of the sites and haven't gotten any emails.
herbivore21
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Fair enough lol, but I still must say that this case cannot by scientific standards be considered to be representative of any wider trend. Basically you literally provided only one example - when in fact THC is a well known psychotomimetic and that the psychosis appears to be a complex relationship (one the authors of the article you linked explicitly claims not to understand in their abstract) between dosage and tolerance of THC (as well as other factors, for example, the presence of mitigating chemicals present like CBD). The findings of that study cannot be generalized. I am addressing this as a matter of explaining scientific standards of evidence here, which I feel are useful to EVERY member of this board in weighing up which points to consider when being presented with research literature of any kind.
You are right to be suspicious of PG my friend (be suspicious of VG too, the only reason people seem to think it is safe is the naturalistic fallacy; it sounds like a 'natural' product because of the use of the word vegetable - which is just not true lol).
Whilst vaporizing PG and VG are safer than combustion, they do create polyaromatic hydrocarbons and carbonyls (known carcinogens) similarly to how combustion does (in lower concentrations). PG has been found to be more unsafe than VG for vaporization in this regard.
Please do not feel that you need to stop posting here, I believe that you meant well and have probably been a victim of very unlucky timing here.
Please do share the results of analysis once you have them too!
Please also understand that whilst I will not share details here to protect his tech from whoever caused trouble for him with paypal, that he is legit. He has explained to me how he is removing THCA and he is using a process VERY widely known/employed in organic and synthetic chemistry to do this. Once again, I am a scientist who has sufficient understanding of chemistry to make this claim.
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darkrom
Great Scott!
Secret method removed.
@herbivore21 reminded me I could cause more problems for them than they already have. I don't want that!
@herbivore21 reminded me I could cause more problems for them than they already have. I don't want that!
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herbivore21
Well-Known Member
The pleasure is all mine Landrace 
http://imgur.com/a/4yWk7
http://imgur.com/EJnmIPx
There should be two photos of the siringe and one of the oil.
Tell me what you guys think about it physically... I still haven't tried.
http://imgur.com/EJnmIPx
There should be two photos of the siringe and one of the oil.
Tell me what you guys think about it physically... I still haven't tried.
YupOil looks surprisingly dabbable to me. Try it!
This is from CBD please store?
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
Reminds me of a live resin. How does it smell?
Think this is the stuff with lab results. 2.1% THC lol. Their pretty much waiting to get shutdown from the sounds of it.
http://mcrlabs.com/cbd-oil-3/
I very much doubt that this is that. So far I tried 3x more than I've used of OL nectar and deadhead, and it doesn't have the same effect. I think there's been anxiety reduction but it is not like what ol made me feel. That being said, as I've mentioned before I don't know much about oils...so I will keep experimenting.
There was little smell or flavor..
If there was any THC I would have felt it because I'm sensitive to it.
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
http://www.yankeecaregivers.com/cbd-please/cbd-products/plus-cbd-gold-oil-2/
Scroll down on that page to see the MCR link.
It looks like CBD Please is buying bulk bottles of this (by the kilo) and filling their own syringes and sticking on their own label.
https://pluscbdoil.com/product/test-product/
https://pluscbdoil.com/product/1gram-pluscbd-oil-gold-label/
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@herbivore21 First thank you for all your posts here and to the rest of you as well - what a great thread!
What are your thoughts on ingestion (via tincture) of VG as opposed to vaporization? Are the carcinogens only released when heated to certain temperature? Would it then depend on the preparation method of the tincture?
Sorry if this is off-topic, I could start another thread.
I want to try out an omeaga labs product, but not sure which one I should try first. I am treating IBS. I've been vaporizing herb for a couple of years while and so have built up my tolerance.
Is 1oz bottle of 2000 mg of cannabinoid concentrate = Is 2oz bottle of 1000 mg of cannabinoid concentrate in terms of total CBN? And 1 drop from 1oz bottle of 2000 mg = 2 drops from 2oz bottle of 1000 mg. Do I understand the term "cannabinoid concentrate" correctly?
I can't seem to tell the difference between the following:
Dark side of the Moon: https://www.etsy.com/listing/216066301/canibdol-darkside-of-the-moon?ref=related-
Which is a stronger version of Canibdol Oral Drops? https://www.etsy.com/listing/216064347/canibdol-orignal?ref=related-1
And these two seem different from each other and the two above.
EPIQ: https://www.etsy.com/listing/216065683/epiq-oral-drops?ref=related-1
CBD Nectar: https://www.etsy.com/listing/216086023/cbd-nectar?ref=related-3
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EDIT: Found this relevant from earlier in the thread. herbivore21 on the Nectar:
"According to OL it is chlorophyll which was pulled through by the ethanol (we all know that ethanol can pull through some plant material depending on how it is done) that makes the non-nectar concentrates black. Whilst I can and have verified above that there is very little in terms of solid particulate plant material in the CBD concentrates, there is definitely chlorophyll in there, indicated by the green/black hue when dissolved in alcohol.
However the CO2 extraction of the nectar means that no such chemicals will leech off the starting material into your dab. This will make the stuff taste much nicer and keep that nail nice and clean"
=> Will this make a significant difference when ingesting rather than dabbing?
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darkrom
Great Scott!
For ingestion don't spend the money on the nectar. The nectar costs more because it is simply cleaned up for dabbing. Orally both are just as safe and effective, but the nectar will leave behind less gunk on the nail basically. That "gunk" is totally safe and probably beneficial orally, it just doesn't like to be heated to 600 degrees or more.
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