CBD Tincture...50 State Legal!

[Breathemetal]

Accepted!

Nectar or oil?

Sorry for the double post did not realize

 

[grokit]

Info submitted, hopefully they will let me enter someday

 

[Mookie143]

I always love everything I get from OL lolll
Going to try the puna butter/there's another kind of butter they have too.. For my back pain, my legs have nerve damage

 

[BigT]

I just got my password as well. Need to do some research/reading since there are so many offerings to choose from. I appreciate all the feedback that has been presented here as it should help me narrow down my choices.

 

[Linard]

Thinking out loud....I wonder if the hemp is missing some elements that the strains that are high cbd low thc have....just a thought because hemp oil has been around for a long time, yet the sucess "stories" concerning cbd oil comes from the marijuana plant, not hemp.

Any thoughts?

 

[Snappo]

Mozilla doesn't like that new site:

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked Firefox to connect securely to www.olorganics.com, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.
What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.

www.olorganics.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.ipage.com, ipage.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

If you understand what's going on, you can tell Firefox to start trusting this site's identification. Even if you trust the site, this error could mean that someone is tampering with your connection.

Don't add an exception unless you know there's a good reason why this site doesn't use trusted identification."


I'm tempted to go and sign up again anyways, what do you think?

I think that I originally got the same verification message while using Mozilla Firefox and disregarded it. Visited and logged on several times without problems. Not a computer savvy person myself on security matters, but doesn't an http:/ prefix indicate secure access? If so, OLorganics.com is not an http:/ recognized site as far as I can tell - but still I experienced no problems.

 

[herbivore21]

Can I just highlight to everyone that the we are explicitly asked not to link as was done above, as a condition of using said site. Please see the 'new site' section.

Please only place online links here to canibdol.com in this thread and on any publicly accessible site. We don't want to allow competitors to cause problems for the guys who make our medicine!

 

[snamuh]

Mozilla doesn't like that new site:

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked Firefox to connect securely to ---------------------------, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.
------------------------uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.ipage.com, ipage.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

If you understand what's going on, you can tell Firefox to start trusting this site's identification. Even if you trust the site, this error could mean that someone is tampering with your connection.

Don't add an exception unless you know there's a good reason why this site doesn't use trusted identification."


I'm tempted to go and sign up again anyways, what do you think?

Those security certificates are odd sometimes. I get them every now and then for various reason. Sometimes it is because the date of your computer is wrong (not sure if it goes by the mac/windows date, or the firmware/bios date on the motherboard.) but this has happened to me even at well known sites. The other reasons that cause it are unknown to me.... but I'm sure a Google search would give some info.

 

[grokit]

I think that I originally got the same verification message while using Mozilla Firefox and disregarded it. Visited and logged on several times without problems. Not a computer savvy person myself on security matters, but doesn't an http:/ prefix indicate secure access? If so, OLorganics.com is not an http:/ recognized site as far as I can tell - but still I experienced no problems.

Im not that savvy either, but perhaps a bit more than you! https:/ is the "secure" prefix.

Anyways the issue seems fixed, that message doesn't come up anymore and I never made an "exception".

 

[Jeppy]

The message comes up for me. Site potentially harmful. Place an order from a potentially harmful site? Idk

 

[grokit]

Maybe I did make an "exception" earlier, I can't really remember

Anyways I signed up again

 

[Snappo]

Maybe I did make an "exception" earlier, I can't really remember

Anyways I signed up again

Please tell us what site you went to (was it Canibdol.com?), and what was the process for signing up again. Thanks!

 

[grokit]

Please tell us what site you went to (was it Canibdol.com?), and what was the process for signing up again. Thanks!

No, it was the olorganics one now I'm a bit confused...
I went to the other one a week or so ago and never heard back. These q's were pretty much the same, just asking for basic personal info, but with a little more room for comments like for medical use.

 

[Snappo]

No, it was the olorganics one now I'm a bit confused...
I went to the other one a week or so ago and never heard back. These q's were pretty much the same, just asking for basic personal info, but with a little more room for comments like for medical use.

OK ...got it! Thanks again!

 

[futaie]

Hello,

I provided last November a sample of the 38% CBD concentrate (Critical Widow) from Omega Labs (bought at cbdoil4u.com still open in last November) to landrace (Not For Human French Association) to be analyzed by a independent laboratory, here is the full report :

"Here the results of the sample sent by **** **** November, 11 2014. We received a greenish gel which was dissolved without difficulty in deuterated methanol in order to make the RMN analysis. The sample was also analyzed with mass spectrometry (MS). We did not find any CBD (cannabidiol). On the other side, we found a concoction of about 75% delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) which has the same mass as CBD but not the same RMN spectrum, and 25% of delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA). The product contains also ethanol. Please find attached the RMN 1H spectrum of the analyzed product"
(sorry for the poor translation)

Here the original text in french :
"Voici nos résultats pour l'échantillon envoyé par **** **** le 25/11/2014. Nous avons reçu un gel verdâtre qui a été dissous sans difficulté dans du méthanol deutéré pour faire les diverses analyses RMN. L'échantillon a également été analysé en spectrométrie de masse (MS). Nous n'avons pas trouvé de CBD (cannabidiol). Par contre, nous avons montré la présence d'un mélange d'environ 75% de delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) qui a la même masse que le CBD mais pas le même spectre RMN et de 25% de delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA). Le produit contient également de l'éthanol. Vous trouverez en attach le spectre RMN 1H du produit analysé."

 

[herbivore21]

Hello,

I provided last November a sample of the 38% CBD concentrate (Critical Widow) from Omega Labs (bought at cbdoil4u.com still open in last November) to landrace (Not For Human French Association) to be analyzed by a independent laboratory, here is the full report :

"Here the results of the sample sent by **** **** November, 11 2014. We received a greenish gel which was dissolved without difficulty in deuterated methanol in order to make the RMN analysis. The sample was also analyzed with mass spectrometry (MS). We did not find any CBD (cannabidiol). On the other side, we found a concoction of about 75% delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) which has the same mass as CBD but not the same RMN spectrum, and 25% of delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA). The product contains also ethanol. Please find attached the RMN 1H spectrum of the analyzed product"
(sorry for the poor translation)

Here the original text in french :
"Voici nos résultats pour l'échantillon envoyé par **** **** le 25/11/2014. Nous avons reçu un gel verdâtre qui a été dissous sans difficulté dans du méthanol deutéré pour faire les diverses analyses RMN. L'échantillon a également été analysé en spectrométrie de masse (MS). Nous n'avons pas trouvé de CBD (cannabidiol). Par contre, nous avons montré la présence d'un mélange d'environ 75% de delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) qui a la même masse que le CBD mais pas le même spectre RMN et de 25% de delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA). Le produit contient également de l'éthanol. Vous trouverez en attach le spectre RMN 1H du produit analysé."

Ok, now I've got some questions. Firstly, about the obvious plant material in this oil - which OL themselves admit is there does not show up in this analysis. Surely the MS they used can detect chlorophyll and other plant materials?

Furthermore, when I googled Not for Human, I could not find anything at all about this organization. Can you please provide the original name of the organization in French?

Finally - if OL has what are essentially pure THC dabs, how do these get past French customs officials and authorities when entering the country?

Do any long-term FC members have access to a testing facility in the US which is known for testing cannabis extracts who could get testing done on another sample of OL oil?

I want to see replication of these results, because as a scientist and an extract maker, I can say there are some lingering questions here.

 

[Snappo]

Hello,

I provided last November a sample of the 38% CBD concentrate (Critical Widow) from Omega Labs (bought at cbdoil4u.com still open in last November) to landrace (Not For Human French Association) to be analyzed by a independent laboratory, here is the full report :

"Here the results of the sample sent by **** **** November, 11 2014. We received a greenish gel which was dissolved without difficulty in deuterated methanol in order to make the RMN analysis. The sample was also analyzed with mass spectrometry (MS). We did not find any CBD (cannabidiol). On the other side, we found a concoction of about 75% delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) which has the same mass as CBD but not the same RMN spectrum, and 25% of delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA). The product contains also ethanol. Please find attached the RMN 1H spectrum of the analyzed product"
(sorry for the poor translation)

Here the original text in french :
"Voici nos résultats pour l'échantillon envoyé par **** **** le 25/11/2014. Nous avons reçu un gel verdâtre qui a été dissous sans difficulté dans du méthanol deutéré pour faire les diverses analyses RMN. L'échantillon a également été analysé en spectrométrie de masse (MS). Nous n'avons pas trouvé de CBD (cannabidiol). Par contre, nous avons montré la présence d'un mélange d'environ 75% de delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) qui a la même masse que le CBD mais pas le même spectre RMN et de 25% de delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA). Le produit contient également de l'éthanol. Vous trouverez en attach le spectre RMN 1H du produit analysé."

I didn't think it was possible to get acids (THCa), especially in such high amount, when a product undergoes decarboxylization (sp?) - perhaps slight trace amounts but no more. I still don't. What would the effect be on an individual given THC & THCa at this 75%:20% ratio? Mostly great reports thus far on this thread for various OL products. Haven't heard or experienced anything out of the ordinary.

 

[herbivore21]

I didn't think it was possible to get acids (THCa), especially in such high amount, when a product undergoes decarboxylization (sp?) - perhaps slight trace amounts but no more. I still don't. What would the effect be on an individual given THC & THCa at this 75%:20% ratio? Mostly great reports thus far on this thread for various OL products. Haven't heard or experienced anything out of the ordinary.

If any of us were dabbing an oil that was nothing but THC and THCA with small amounts of ethanol, we would be getting stupidly high, uncomfortably so. Especially in the sized dabs of deadhead OG I have sometimes I should have had many panic attacks by now. This has not happened.

It is definitely possible to have concentrates that contain both THC and THCA in these measures, there are a few possible ways a concentrate could end up this way.

For the concentrate to be nothing but THC and THCA with a little ethanol to me sounds like something has gone wrong somewhere along the line. I just can't see how OL could be sending pure psychoactives proscribed by international conventions all over the world and not be getting caught out all over the place by various authorities.

The 'greenish gel' indicates presence of chlorophyll. This has not been identified in the test results at all - nor any other plant material. This is the most curious part of what @futaie posted. Furthermore I still have not been able to find a thing about this organization!

We should give Futaie a chance to answer these questions though, because I am interested to hear the responses and especially to be able to find the organization at all!

EDIT: Wait a minute. That report says that approx 25% of the content is THCA, and approx 75% is THC.

If this is true, how is there ethanol in the product? Approximately 100% of the sample is accounted for if approx 25% is THCA and approx 75% is THC!?

 

[grokit]

I just want to try some Dark Side of The Moon at bedtime

 

[Snappo]

It is definitely possible to have concentrates that contain both THC and THCA in these measures, there are a few possible ways a concentrate could end up this way.

It has been my understanding that these concentrates are all decarbed at some point in the process. As this happens, the THCa (typically starting at about 25% pre-carbed content) converts to THC (pre-carbed content typically starts well below 25%, and usually much lower than 12%). I could be way off on these figures - need a resident expert to correct me and to guide the discussion. Given these preliminary starting points, how does one end up with 75%:25%, assuming carbed, in a product never intended to be such? Sorry ...just not making much sense to me - and especially in consideration of herbivore21's points.

 

[herbivore21]

It has been my understanding that these concentrates are all decarbed at some point in the process. As this happens, the THCa (typically starting at about 25% pre-carbed content) converts to THC (pre-carbed content typically starts well below 25%, and usually much lower than 12%). I could be way off on these figures - need a resident expert to correct me and to guide the discussion. Given these preliminary starting points, how does one end up with 75%:25%, assuming carbed, in a product never intended to be such? Sorry ...just not making much sense to me - and especially in consideration of herbivore21's points.

I have never seen the word 'pre-carbed' before lol - Do you mean decarbed?

 

[Snappo]

I have never seen the word 'pre-carbed' before lol - Do you mean decarbed?

Actually, I do mean to say "pre-carbed", as in, a fresh state prior to carbing the plant matter. In any event, until some serious questions are answered regarding the accuracy & authenticity of the alleged report, I will leave the doors and windows open in order to let the odd smell of Red Herring aire out of the house.

 

[herbivore21]

Actually, I do mean to say "pre-carbed", as in, a fresh state prior to carbing the plant matter.

Lol what you are referring to is the cannabinoid in it's carboxilic acid state, but I gotcha.

Remember that decarboxilation will happen on the plant to some extent before harvest due to UV exposure necessary for any plant to survive. Furthermore, when we decarb concentrates, this happens gradually. Not all of the THCA becomes THC straight away!

As such, we could really get any ratio of THC-THCA in a given concentrate depending on the conditions of the growing/harvesting/handling of original material all the way through to how deliberate decarb of the concentrate was carried out and whether it was carried out at enough heat (and/or low enough pressure in the case of cold-boil decarboxilation)/long enough to fully decarb the material.

 

[Snappo]

Lol what you are referring to is the cannabinoid in it's carboxilic acid state, but I gotcha.

Remember that decarboxilation will happen on the plant to some extent before harvest due to UV exposure necessary for any plant to survive. Furthermore, when we decarb concentrates, this happens gradually. Not all of the THCA becomes THC straight away!

As such, we could really get any ratio of THC-THCA in a given concentrate depending on the conditions of the growing/harvesting/handling of original material all the way through to how deliberate decarb of the concentrate was carried out and whether it was carried out at enough heat (and/or low enough pressure in the case of cold-boil decarboxilation)/long enough to fully decarb the material.

Thanks @herbivore21 for the clarification!

 

[snamuh]

Actually, I do mean to say "pre-carbed", as in, a fresh state prior to carbing the plant matter. In any event, until some serious questions are answered regarding the accuracy & authenticity of the alleged report, I will leave the doors and windows open in order to let the odd smell of Red Herring aire out of the house.

those results do look wrong... I have never tried THC concentrates because flowers are pretty much to potent for me...

@Snappo not to disrupt the topic but I thought the purpose of decarbing was to turn the THC to THCa for the purpose of oral consumption... going by what i had thought than the THCa would be useless for "dabs"... idk...