I wonder if @PandaLee missed the above bit of your original post. Quoting it just in case
What a lovely offer!
Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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I wonder if @PandaLee missed the above bit of your original post. Quoting it just in case
What a lovely offer!
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
The temperature displayed on the PID is based upon the thermocouple in the coil. If the coil is not tight up against the surfaces of the diffuser and nut, then heat transfer will not be as efficient which would lead to your needing to raise the temperature to get the same results as those of us with a tight fit.
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Baron23
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Just because a coils thermocouple sends back a temp signal to the controller, doesn't mean that its an accurate temp. Particularly with high temp use, coils tend to degrade.
Also, I have had a D-nail coil...brand new....that read way to high. That is, the controller thought it was at set point temp but the actual temp was far below what you would expect as a delta.
If you have to run at 900 F on the controller in order to not have puddles, your dab surface can't be 900 F...or even 800 F...or I think you would agree with folks that you are scorching it badly.
I would look, as suggested, at coil fit, the coil (do you have one to swap out with?), or perhaps your controller.
But something is wrong based on your description, IMO.
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Bumping Spheda
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Ok. So here's a quick vid at 700 with carb cap as of now. I could probably turn this down 20 degrees, for sure, perhaps the water added resistance or something, that looks darker than expected. I'll have to mess with spacing the coil out later, gotta work. Thanks for the tip YaMon, this is honestly the first I've heard of this and I thought I watched all the review and setup vids there were.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NHTtAurOQ87bHzBTyy0Mf5m1afAmA7xa
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NHTtAurOQ87bHzBTyy0Mf5m1afAmA7xa
PandaLee
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I wonder if @PandaLee missed the above bit of your original post. Quoting it just in case
To me, that looked like a proper 700f capped hit out of a rig like that, like if I were to use my Vrod on it. Vapor looked thick, and the flower cooked but not black (a clearer video may disprove that, but I believe that's what I saw!). And I also dab at 680 - 700, with various 'trates such as crumble, shatter live cured resin, rosin...etc. So I'm at a loss with the 900 temps, mine would probably scorch at those temps. So I don't know! When I qtip at the end of my dab session, I don't get much on the qtip. One side of the qtip will have a little grime, and the other side that's dipped in dist water sparkles it up for the next sesh
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
That grind does not look fine enough, you need close to keif with this vape!
A finer grind, as @YaMon said, would yield a bigger first hit.
Also, it sounds like youre really pulling hard on it (tho the sound on the video could be misleading), which in conjunction with a very coarse grind, will pull a lot of the hot air thru the gaps rather than thru your flower/material (the air is going to take the path of least resistance).
Slow down a bit, with a finer grind, and you should be getting big hits with flower.
thevapist
Well-Known Member
I was originally 690f, but I've been strictly 625f for the past while. I have no problem with concentrates at this temp. A little goes a long way. If you're using too much it will puddle. Terp pearls also help so much that I'd never bother without them.
New Vape fine grinder gets the flower perfect. I get full and even extraction with capped hits @ 625f.
I'm still rocking the crazy setup with terp perls down the VROD air hole and 5 in the dish, even with just flower. Still haven't had any darker ring. It's even as a mofug.
New Vape fine grinder gets the flower perfect. I get full and even extraction with capped hits @ 625f.
I'm still rocking the crazy setup with terp perls down the VROD air hole and 5 in the dish, even with just flower. Still haven't had any darker ring. It's even as a mofug.
Baron23
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Ok, now I'm confused....I thought we were talking about pooling at anything less than 900 F which mean a dab....but the vid is flower??
Just a suggestion, I agree that if you want thicker first draw or so, grind a good bit finer.
Bumping Spheda
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Alright, I'm back for a bit. Thanks for the tips guys.
Finer grind? Haha. I'm breakin' bud up with my fingers atm, I just kind of threw it in there. This Purple Punch needs to dry out a bit before I can really crumble it between my fingers how I like to. I got a Brilliant Cut grinder with fine grinding plate, though, I just have to wait 4 weeks. We'll get there. With the Splinter I at least get a chance to break up the dried crumbs when I stir the bowl for a better second hit extraction, but on this hit I just nuked the whole bowl.
Yes, I was drawing pretty darn hard trying to roast those fat chunks. I'll try slower draws, I also got the single hole V-cap so I'll see what that does compared to the two hole, Idk, why not?
Soooo, I got the jewelers screwdriver set out and messed wit that coil spacing, ran it through an auto-tune at 750, then dabbed some live resin at 750... Gorgeous hit. Thanks for sticking with me guys, we got it now. Haven't tried herb yet, but I'm gonna turn it down to 680 as recommended before, that doesn't sound like a bad place to be for flower right now.
Again, appreciate all the help, guys, you got me rolling. I think I may have been degrading my dabs a little at 900 like suggested? I took a pretty meager sized dab just now just to try the temperature out and I'm feeling pretty lit, tbh, I think I've been less high off more dab before.
Finer grind? Haha. I'm breakin' bud up with my fingers atm, I just kind of threw it in there. This Purple Punch needs to dry out a bit before I can really crumble it between my fingers how I like to. I got a Brilliant Cut grinder with fine grinding plate, though, I just have to wait 4 weeks. We'll get there. With the Splinter I at least get a chance to break up the dried crumbs when I stir the bowl for a better second hit extraction, but on this hit I just nuked the whole bowl.
Yes, I was drawing pretty darn hard trying to roast those fat chunks. I'll try slower draws, I also got the single hole V-cap so I'll see what that does compared to the two hole, Idk, why not?
Soooo, I got the jewelers screwdriver set out and messed wit that coil spacing, ran it through an auto-tune at 750, then dabbed some live resin at 750... Gorgeous hit. Thanks for sticking with me guys, we got it now. Haven't tried herb yet, but I'm gonna turn it down to 680 as recommended before, that doesn't sound like a bad place to be for flower right now.
Again, appreciate all the help, guys, you got me rolling. I think I may have been degrading my dabs a little at 900 like suggested? I took a pretty meager sized dab just now just to try the temperature out and I'm feeling pretty lit, tbh, I think I've been less high off more dab before.
PandaLee
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@Bumping Spheda Since you don't have your grinder yet and your flower is really fresh, load a couple chunks in there and do a light flavorful draw. Then dump it out and crush up it finer with your fingers and go for round 2!
Bumping Spheda
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Video of my first twax, haha.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9K3HpAFLDOPdxUy4eEsDjsHLf029x1-/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9K3HpAFLDOPdxUy4eEsDjsHLf029x1-/view?usp=sharing
Warmaniac_209
Chocolate Milk Chug Meister
Hi everybody, I'm new here, first post, and i have a few question for all the great flowerpot ganja vaping meister out here,I just bit the bullet with a brand new flowerpot Vrod, any advice for a newcomer, i already have a Mighty as a portable, so im not new to vape, but it's my first desktop, a friend of mine had a Vripmaster, i remember using this with a digital heatgun because he broke the glass heater wand, and it was ripping hit like crazy.... this and an arizer extreme Q, but nothing like this, whats the must have to buy with my kit, right now i bought the enail controller with the VROD Head, a 2hole carb Cap, SiC Dish, the 6inch stand for it, i got a nice collection of glass from my time as a hardcore bong smoker, so glass wise, i can choose 14 or 18mm, but i keep seeing these terps pearl poping in the discution, some say its just a gimmick for wax, other say it help with flower, i intend to use it mainly for flower, but i also enjoy from time to time some good rosin or BHO, and when i enjoy wax, i mean ENJOY, so i wanted top tier performance when dabbing, i think ive not mistaken with this unit, but we'll see when it arrive... but back to the subject, is terp pearl is "must have" or just fun because they make noise when they spin..... what's your 'must have' for the Vrod ? thanks for all the advice you can give for a begginner like me... the only must have i can see is the isolated handle for the carb cap, not burning yourself when you let the carb cap on seem very appealing to me, but the 45 buck for a fu*@#ing handle a lot less.....
THIS @Bumping Spheda
You could also just put a whole nug in the bowl, put on the VRod head and inhale, then crush the bud up, or do no inhale and leave it for a few seconds to dry out, etc etc.
Once you have a fine grind in the bowl, if you're carb capping and doing a slow inhale (and depending on the chug and extra draw your glass provides), you could easily get the same massive hits down at 630f. Up near the 700's, its possible to kill a bowl without the carb cap at all.
Personally, I'd recommend mastering what you've already got instead of confusing things with a two hole cap, but I confuse easily
Tho really, you have everything you need already to master the VRod 
Take care new vape we need you, not joking at all. All the best through this
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
As you may have seen with @Bumping Spheda, hand broken up bud does not cut it! You need a good grinder. I have several, but everything that is 3 piece or more needs to be turned upside down for a bit to obtain a fine enough grind, even my BCG with a fine plate. The NewVape fine grinder works really well and sometimes NewVape has seconds at a discount.
You'll also need double weave screens which last a really long time if you debowl them while warm and I find using a brush after debowling helps prolong the time between deep cleans of the bowl and screen.
If you have a lot of glass, great! Just be sure when you order the adjustabowls that you also add the post sizes that you need.
The consensus is the terp pearls add surface area and will help with dabs, now how many pearls and how many holes to have in your carb cap borderlines on a religious discussion.
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Warmaniac_209
Chocolate Milk Chug Meister
thanks for the feedback, as for grinder, ive got a few laying around, but my main is a 4 pieces 420 panda grinder with double screen, very effective, very fine grind if i invert it, and medium fine when i use it straight, dont remember which specialty shop i bought it though.... but i think it's gonna be more than adequate, as for the double weave titanium, i totaly forgot to buy it, your right, il get 2 of them with that damn carb cap handle that tempting me so much.... i just know im gonna let the cap on all day long and burn myself bad as always when i'm gonna want to dab... as for terp pearls, im dead set on the swissjewelry sapphire balls, at 4,25 each, gonna buy 6 5mm and 4 4mm think im gonna be in buisness for a good time, thanks for the advice i appreciate it a lot, good vaping all, i'm eager as fuck to recieve the beast and test it toroughly gonna give a feedback in a few days when everything arrive and taken a day or two to unvirginise it
nodrog
Well-Known Member
Last night was playing around with higher temps on the Weedeater. Have been reading the reports of one-hit wonders, a small amount at like 750 degrees. While this *does* work well, it makes me cough like a motherfucker. Not fun, not feasible. My friend was over last night and came up with a remarkable, feasible, and very simple solution to making high-roller hits really quite tolerable. Simple answers! This worked like a charm, PID set at 750, just a small amount of weed, nice and cool hit. Beautiful!
This isn't me, it's my friend using my setup
This isn't me, it's my friend using my setup
Bumping Spheda
Well-Known Member
Is that a dog bowl? 
nodrog
Well-Known Member
Nah, just regular kitchen bowls.Is that a dog bowl?
Last night was playing around with higher temps on the Weedeater. Have been reading the reports of one-hit wonders, a small amount at like 750 degrees. While this *does* work well, it makes me cough like a motherfucker. Not fun, not feasible. My friend was over last night and came up with a remarkable, feasible, and very simple solution to making high-roller hits really quite tolerable. Simple answers! This worked like a charm, PID set at 750, just a small amount of weed, nice and cool hit. Beautiful!
This isn't me, it's my friend using my setup
Just watch out for thermal shock with that combination of hot and cold!
started@52
Well-Known Member
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
I'v seen this, but question why they included the WeedEater rather than the VRod, so you're missing out on Twaxing which was the foundation of all of NewVapes development starting with the ShowerHead. Perhaps they were distracted by Dorian? @NewVape710
