That looks awesome and cheap!!! Well maybe not cheap but a lot less than other presses. I might have to get into the rosin making game!
Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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That looks awesome and cheap!!! Well maybe not cheap but a lot less than other presses. I might have to get into the rosin making game!
Hi all!!!!
In the spirit of collaboration and innovation, I wanted to let you know that Ed follows this thread very closely, as do I. The discussions and feedback from this forum are paramount in keeping NewVape moving forward in the improvement of the products.
As suggested by @steama , we will begin some testing on a revision on the Vrod by removing the center hole on the diffuser with the purpose of spreading that heat a bit more evenly and avoid the ring left on the flower.
While this particular issue is solvable by adjusting draw and/or temperature or a simple stir, we understand that the beauty of the process is in the refinement of the product.
So here is the proposed rev.
We will be reporting any results from our testing!
Thoughts?
In the spirit of collaboration and innovation, I wanted to let you know that Ed follows this thread very closely, as do I. The discussions and feedback from this forum are paramount in keeping NewVape moving forward in the improvement of the products.
As suggested by @steama , we will begin some testing on a revision on the Vrod by removing the center hole on the diffuser with the purpose of spreading that heat a bit more evenly and avoid the ring left on the flower.
While this particular issue is solvable by adjusting draw and/or temperature or a simple stir, we understand that the beauty of the process is in the refinement of the product.
So here is the proposed rev.
We will be reporting any results from our testing!
Thoughts?
My thought is to make it a small chamber that the air comes in and goes to all the holes rather then attaching straight to the bottom peice if that makes sense, pm me if it doesn’t because I would love to explain itHi all!!!!
In the spirit of collaboration and innovation, I wanted to let you know that Ed follows this thread very closely, as do I. The discussions and feedback from this forum are paramount in keeping NewVape moving forward in the improvement of the products.
As suggested by @steama , we will begin some testing on a revision on the Vrod by removing the center hole on the diffuser with the purpose of spreading that heat a bit more evenly and avoid the ring left on the flower.
While this particular issue is solvable by adjusting draw and/or temperature or a simple stir, we understand that the beauty of the process is in the refinement of the product.
So here is the proposed rev.
We will be reporting any results from our testing!
Thoughts?
I think if you're getting some Venturi action like I would anticipate going from the 1/4" intake to the 18 hole expansion, that might vape the center of the load evenly without the 19th hole. I'm not much of a stirrer so I definitely support figuring this all out.
Ville23
Well-Known Member
"One for flower & one for herb" I love itmax VROD enjoyment = two glass pieces, one for flower and one for herb
Makes things easy, quick, and clean.
And while we all appreciate the suggestions for Vrod improvements, I'll be blaming you @steama when I'm upgrading my new Vrod
Me thinks also you may want it to SO much better that sooner or later you just HAVE to upgrade when you have used every excuse in the book not to.
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
It’s either this or some type of baffles to break the column of air. I see baffles problematic as material will accumulate on the surfaces. Great to see NewVape!Hi all!!!!
In the spirit of collaboration and innovation, I wanted to let you know that Ed follows this thread very closely, as do I. The discussions and feedback from this forum are paramount in keeping NewVape moving forward in the improvement of the products.
As suggested by @steama , we will begin some testing on a revision on the Vrod by removing the center hole on the diffuser with the purpose of spreading that heat a bit more evenly and avoid the ring left on the flower.
While this particular issue is solvable by adjusting draw and/or temperature or a simple stir, we understand that the beauty of the process is in the refinement of the product.
So here is the proposed rev.
We will be reporting any results from our testing!
Thoughts?
juxt
Well-Known Member
If they change it this soon, you'd think they would at least send us a Ti nail to close off our center hole instead of buying a new one.
Well my VROD has landed and I'm really digging it. I went right to 635 for my maiden voyage and that was about spot on. I gotta go find something to dab on to try the Halo, wasn't even expecting it to show up today! I'm using the regular 14mm male body, not the stubby nor the Adjustabowl. ABV was pretty much as described, a darker ring on the outside, really not that bad though at this temp. The slightly increased draw restriction over the SH is perfect for my taste. I have not used the carb cap yet, but with performance like this it's probably not gonna be something I use for flowers but I'll definitely try it for science. Flower vapor does seem smoother than the SH to me initially. Not sure if that's just the temp drop or not. Love the look of this head with the two pieces, it's a really trick design. More later 
@newvape918 ... one other thought for the vrod ... you could actually have a different head for it that converted it to a showerhead ... essentially just a "dish/nut/coil cover" ... the 19 holes in the vrod would then just be open to the top (this would leave you with a Ti dish though so obviously not for dabbing ... but converts the vrod into an equivalent to the showerhead for flower ...) ... just a thought ... not sure if this is really worthwhile at all if the above 19 to 18 hole bridges the gap for the most part ...
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Totally agree!!! And 2 bowls, one for each!!!max VROD enjoyment = two glass pieces, one for flower and one for herb
Makes things easy, quick, and clean.
Stay vaped...
DonnieG
Member
Does everyones Vrod seem larger than the SH (meaning additional space inside heating cup which allows wiggle on the post and the bowl).
My Vrod has a lot of extra play that i can wiggle it on the post or bowl. And because of that space it "ALWAYS" gets stuck on the post and the bowl? My Showerhead was super tight fit. This Vrod has more gap.
Does this happen to everyone? Does this sound right?
My Vrod has a lot of extra play that i can wiggle it on the post or bowl. And because of that space it "ALWAYS" gets stuck on the post and the bowl? My Showerhead was super tight fit. This Vrod has more gap.
Does this happen to everyone? Does this sound right?
You aren’t wrong, mine sticks so I’m going to the TI post, it’s bigger forsure but it’s not an issue for me as long as the TI post takes care of the sticking
Mine fits great, maybe even a little more snug than the Showerhead
Likes2vape
Well-Known Member
Looks awesome. I wonder if leaving a post or cone in the middle spot would help break up the airflow and evenly distribute it better.Hi all!!!!
In the spirit of collaboration and innovation, I wanted to let you know that Ed follows this thread very closely, as do I. The discussions and feedback from this forum are paramount in keeping NewVape moving forward in the improvement of the products.
As suggested by @steama , we will begin some testing on a revision on the Vrod by removing the center hole on the diffuser with the purpose of spreading that heat a bit more evenly and avoid the ring left on the flower.
While this particular issue is solvable by adjusting draw and/or temperature or a simple stir, we understand that the beauty of the process is in the refinement of the product.
So here is the proposed rev.
We will be reporting any results from our testing!
Thoughts?
My vrod sticks mainly on heat up and sometimes afterwards to the post but never gets stuck to the bowl.
Well that’s interesting, again not that I’m worried about mine being a bit more loose but i just figured that’s the way these ones were
ParanoidAndroid998
Well-Known Member
If we can get the VROD performing as well or better than the SH for flower, I'll be picking one up ASAP.
Honestly I wouldn’t worry, I like my VROD but there is nothing wrong with the showerhead
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
This just came to mind and I am sure that when New Vape tests things out Edwyn will find the best solution for the VROD. Not often does one get a hole-in-one (so to speak). I noticed with the center hole plugged still I could 'overwhelm' the fix if my draw was hard enough, but my natural draw isn't that hard.
People have ideas because ideas are shared, but in the end, the solutions are almost always hands on.
Just my
but I think NV should have sent you a prototype, as well as a few other savvy SH/SiC fans, so growing pains could have been minimized or avoided altogether. The feedback would have been extremely valuable to NV... we're only talking letting a few out into the wild before retail sales. However since NV is so rad, it's quite possible that a revision will be discounted for previous Vrod customers.I still think it's absolutely incredible that the Vrod requires a slower draw than the SH! WOW! Sounds like some airflow restriction/hemp fibe, more water, etc. could make the difference, like it did for some with the SH.
@newvape918
Its great your pro active in making your line better, it seems you're not super interested in marketing ploys but more interested in getting the great technology into people's hands and of course it's going to hurt a little bit sometimes ,but I would prefer this way of doing business good on you.
But as mentioned it would be awesome if you could come up with a solution for current v-rod owners if any revisions are made.
All di best and I love my v-rod!
Its great your pro active in making your line better, it seems you're not super interested in marketing ploys but more interested in getting the great technology into people's hands and of course it's going to hurt a little bit sometimes ,but I would prefer this way of doing business good on you.
But as mentioned it would be awesome if you could come up with a solution for current v-rod owners if any revisions are made.
All di best and I love my v-rod!
Ed's wheels are always turning so I am certain there will be although I dont really have any details right now. Ed's main focus is on quality as we all probably know. This is really the only platform in which these things are shared because this forum is of great value to us.
It is difficult to say one product is going to be the solution for everyone bc everyone is different, but the beauty of it is in getting it closer and closer. As they say, its about the journey...and you guys are an important part of that...
Published a new article on our experience at the 2018 NorCal Cannabis Cup if anyone is interested. Little video to go with it.
Fire away with some comments!
CANNABIS CUP BLOG ENTRY
DonnieG
Member
Just my
DISCLAIMER: I appreciate NewVape and the Flowerpot Vaporizer, however, just providing my honest opinion. NV an innovative company and therefore have extreme pressures. I understand the design and development process associated with products, as I have a MBA and own a retail business.
This is my personal problem (which isn't a huge deal until you scale it up to more customers...):
1) First I contacted NV about SH stock replenishment. I received a reply they would soon restock. No mention of Vrod.
2) ordered SH kit
3) 3 days later Vrod releases. Ok pay $$$ with discount for new-new version which should be better
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4) Vrod arrives. it sticks EVERY TIME to post and bowl. Design causes uneven vape. But i had to buy to get discount before it expires.
5) couple weeks from Vrod release and now new-new-new Version...must pay more $$$ w/ discount but this version should be better. Also, discount will expire
From reading 400 pages of forum, I've seen this play out over the years with the FP. All innovative products go through a creative evolution during early stages. The concern is that you never want to make a customer feel a negative emotion
I feel like, If you're going to release a new product, let people on waiting list for a huge investment know before you restock the old version (three days prior to new product release). And if you're going to make a new product it should be tested for design and function prior to launch. The last thing you want for a new customer is to ruin the enjoyment of the purchase. We all upgraded to the Vrod for improved performance and function, not to test the product in return for a discount (its not a discount if you pay 100% and then 50%). And the goal in a new product release should be the efficacy of the product (not sales, clearing inventory, or getting a product ready for a new event).
Due to all this, Im back on the Showerhead.
The reason for the switch back to the SH is simple, I'm demonstrating this product to several people a week. They are being introduced to NewVape and the Flowerpot by my recommendation. I demonstrate the function, and then they use the product. People were afraid of the Vrod because it sticks and they had to pull so much longer it was difficult for people with weaker draw capacity. Once one person got hurt, I'm back to the Showerhead that doesn't stick.
Ultimately, new products are great and are the reason this company is going to be a dominator in the industry. They should be proud of their creations. My best recommendation is that some education on production release best practices would help for the future. And when you have a resource like the FC for product R/D & testing, don't use that as your direct mail sales list unless you trust your product with your market experts. If profit is your goal, a marketing campaign will provide more ROI than continuos product rollout. Best bet is to grow your customer base, not repeat customer sales. The value of something durable and well constructed is lost with high product roll over, and ultimately customers will lose interest. Properly timed releases with marketing/awareness campaigns can help create a desire for products with a manageable scope for retail purchasers.
The reason I mention this is I like NV a lot and want it to succeed. This company will be expanding very fast over the next few years and I know they will do well. The hardest part about expanding a business isn't the sales, or the products, or the distribution, or the marketing... its simply making sure you don't lose sight of your customer experience and your original mission statement.
Ok let the hate responses fly... I will have more positive posts in the future i promise.
Piece be with you...
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635F
Hogni
Honi soit qui mal y pense
@DonnieG you might be right regarding more and intense beta testing. There was the lack of sealing of the new HD bowls and now there seems to be a need for an improved air intake of the VRod and perhaps its sitting on the posts.
But what I really don't understand is complaining about their way of new releases. You wanted the SH you got the SH. And I think the way of NV to offer a 50% discount on new releases for customers of the last month before release is pretty fair. After testing you have the choice to keep both or to sell the one you are liking less w/o any loss of money maybe even with a little profit.
And who buys a new item without any testings/reviews on it has the risk to get a sub-optimal device. Period. So there is no reason for complaining IMO.
EDIT: @NewVape919, thanks for your infos. But what's about the still open question about the coils for the VRods I'm asking now for the 3rd time like other customers did it a few times. Anyway which reply, a reply by you would be very appreciated.
But what I really don't understand is complaining about their way of new releases. You wanted the SH you got the SH. And I think the way of NV to offer a 50% discount on new releases for customers of the last month before release is pretty fair. After testing you have the choice to keep both or to sell the one you are liking less w/o any loss of money maybe even with a little profit.
And who buys a new item without any testings/reviews on it has the risk to get a sub-optimal device. Period. So there is no reason for complaining IMO.
EDIT: @NewVape919, thanks for your infos. But what's about the still open question about the coils for the VRods I'm asking now for the 3rd time like other customers did it a few times. Anyway which reply, a reply by you would be very appreciated.
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