Zow237
Well-Known Member
Dish soap fix? LMAO! Good move, lucky you!
I know right?! I was scared and then did the wash and boom! Good as new. Just got myself a q of some gg
love that strain
Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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I know right?! I was scared and then did the wash and boom! Good as new. Just got myself a q of some gg
love that strain
Baron23
Well-Known Member
You are absolutely right...its not proprietary in the sense that NV invented and own the connector design or even the pin out scheme. What it is, however, is uncommon and while there are other sources (well, I only found one) with this type of screw on XLR, it is not ubiquitous at all. I view the bayonet XLR and the pin outs that have been delineated many, many times here to be a defacto standard and what is used on most hot runner coils.
I know that NV has posted about what they think are the advantages of their connector, in particular a higher current carrying ability, but this ability is apparently not needed by our application as I have not ever heard of pins or wiring in the coils melting. More common, the TC fails. There is a lot of stuff that falls into that "better" or "more robust" category that others in its class, but the question must arise....is the additional capability needed and in this case, I don't believe so.
As for an adapter....just make a pigtail. Get both type of connectors or the right sex and some wiring and solder away. Not too hard, but I think that the reason you don't see that discussed much is that its not needed...just get a coil that's compatible with your controller.
As for fitment....I am a disciple of @mutten840 on coil fitting...that is, spread em and make em tight. Flat blade screw driver and some pliers and you are in business and I don't believe that any coil fits on any enail the way they do when Mutten is done with them. And I have verified the benefit of a good tight, spread out (top to bottom) fit with a K-type TC thermometer and examining the delta between set point and dab surface temps. I like em tight...just my preference...and I would most likely tighten any coil that I got my hands on as I have in the past.
Cheers
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Tested the sapphire halo dish in the WA on my dhgate controller @550F, center of the dish reads 464F. Curious why d-nail still doesn't post their sapphire halo temperatures in the calculator so we can compare with the SiC.
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Opps forgot to add but what @steama said , get the coil cover . It's a in-expensive investment imo.
@Baron23 i think it is worth it if you are one of those guys that keeps your Enail on all day long , peace of mind , probably not needed though . I actually keep my Enail on for a few hours at a time and its usually my Hex and i am using a cheap coil but i never leave home with it on. I can vouch for larger connectors being better that carry more current as i have also built a few fast rc cars and drones in my time and learned my lesson from using flimsy connectors that run current through them.
@Baron23 i think it is worth it if you are one of those guys that keeps your Enail on all day long , peace of mind , probably not needed though . I actually keep my Enail on for a few hours at a time and its usually my Hex and i am using a cheap coil but i never leave home with it on. I can vouch for larger connectors being better that carry more current as i have also built a few fast rc cars and drones in my time and learned my lesson from using flimsy connectors that run current through them.
Baron23
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Hello my friend - I do want to be clear....the NV controller and coil are a good price and apparently work just fine. I'm absolutely not saying that they don't.
I have just tried to explain my priorities and thinking that goes into my personal decision on coil purchases.
One thing that plays into my thinking and may not for others is that I have multiple controllers, coils, enails and I absolutely do not want to get into any sort of interface incompatibility issues within my personal kit.
I am NOT trying to kill NV's controller/coil sales. Not my objective at all and I believe my very long history on line will show me to be a booster of NV products for quite some time starting with the fine grinder and loading tool to the Pax accessories. I have like NV products for a couple of years now, spoke with Edwyn pleasantly on the phone before more recent unpleasantness (he called me back in response to an inquiry) and I had even talked to him about visiting the plant when I'm next in FL.
I am a NV supporter. We just don't agree on every dang thing. I have my reasons, they have theirs.
Vapetologist
HamsterDAMAGED
Well maybe its needed, maybe its not. One clear benefit would be the reduction in over-the top, lengthy coil diatribes...
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Oh Baron no worries in no way did i take your comment as trying to put down NV or effect there sales in any way at all , in fact NV does not even make the coil we are talking about , i believe vapcode does and they just sell it. All i was saying or at least trying to say is the connectors size that is passing electrical current through it definitely plays a role in safeness as this all can trickle down to one of my hobbies of building electric rc car vehicles and drones that have very high currents going through the connectors . I have learned my lesson as i have had smaller cables melt and burn up engines and computer systems on the vehicles and now use a larger connector that can handle a higher current. Some of the smaller ones i have used said they could handle it but failed. Now i have no idea what kind of current is flowing through Enail coils or not what but all i can say is it is somewhat relate-able that's all and a peace of mind to some. It is kind of obvious though that a larger cable should handle current flowing through it better than a smaller one , right ?
Baron23
Well-Known Member
Once again its a matter of if its needed or you are just gilding the lilly.
Again, based on the very many applications of hot runner type coils, the field experience is that there seems absolutely no excess resistance issue with using the more standard connector and its pins.
Let's drop this please, I think the different views are well known and we are just beating a dead horse.
Vaporware
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Sorry, I should have been more clear; I'm fine with my NV coil, I was trying to help @mixchu69 who is looking for a new coil and I wanted to have more data to help other people with similar questions in the future.
I was really just asking whether or not you find your looser Hex Nail coil to fit and/or work better now that you have a coil cover, assuming you've tried it since then.
You will learn to eat what is put in front of you! Get the coil cover my friend.
Hah...don't worry, I bought the kit during the Black Friday sale and I've had the coil cover on the whole time. Sorry my question's intent wasn't clear enough.
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Sorry buddy i could not tell you as all the coils i have now are perfect fitting and not loose at all , i had got rid of my ill fitting coils long ago before the coil cover was even out. But like everyone said , its worth it to have even if the coil fitment is a bit loose.Sorry, I should have been more clear; I'm fine with my NV coil, I was trying to help @mixchu69 who is looking for a new coil and I wanted to have more data to help other people with similar questions in the future.
I was really just asking whether or not you find your looser Hex Nail coil to fit and/or work better now that you have a coil cover, assuming you've tried it since then.
Hah...don't worry, I bought the kit during the Black Friday sale and I've had the coil cover on the whole time. Sorry my question's intent wasn't clear enough.
just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
...this is in regards to the divine tribe hydratube attachment...
...its very close in size to the nv bowl...
...it does fit the (eerlectric) double weave ti screens..
...it mates the showerhead very well (almost/if not the same as the nv bowl)
...performance is spot on...
...only negative about the divine tribe HT attachment is no handle... i used my sweatshirt to dump bowl (higher potential for breakage).. ALSO i found the restriction greater with the DTHT attachment... however people like @biohacker may find this an additional benefit...
...its very close in size to the nv bowl...
...it does fit the (eerlectric) double weave ti screens..
...it mates the showerhead very well (almost/if not the same as the nv bowl)
...performance is spot on...
...only negative about the divine tribe HT attachment is no handle... i used my sweatshirt to dump bowl (higher potential for breakage).. ALSO i found the restriction greater with the DTHT attachment... however people like @biohacker may find this an additional benefit...
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Thanks man! Guessing go with the 14mm and use an adapter? The glass will stick as much as Ti (old bowls)? Do you much prefer it over the ti?
disGRUNTled
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Still vaping cherry cookies ,, watching The Pizza show.
HengefulOne
Well-Known Member
...this is in regards to the divine tribe hydratube attachment...
...its very close in size to the nv bowl...
...it does fit the (eerlectric) double weave ti screens..
...it mates the showerhead very well (almost/if not the same as the nv bowl)
...performance is spot on...
...only negative about the divine tribe HT attachment is no handle... i used my sweatshirt to dump bowl (higher potential for breakage).. ALSO i found the restriction greater with the DTHT attachment... however people like @biohacker may find this an additional benefit...
Shucks, for $12 shipped on their site Im having trouble talking myself out of picking one up
So what would be the advantage of the 14mm over the 18mm, more restriction?
Also I have a bunch of the Herbalaire bag adapters (yellow) laying around, would prob make a nice handle
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Zow237
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Loving this SH! https://instagram.com/p/BfPBNu7lc6x/
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
AFAIK The 18mm only works with the SH inverted. And I think the 18mm will stick like the OG Ti bowls, so 14mm+adapter is the way to go if you use 18mm joints like me.
Interesting herbalaire bag clamp idea!
just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
HengefulOne
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AFAIK The 18mm only works with the SH inverted. And I think the 18mm will stick like the OG Ti bowls, so 14mm+adapter is the way to go if you use 18mm joints like me.
Interesting herbalaire bag clamp idea!
Wouldnt that only apply to the bowls with a different diameter listed previously in this thread? They are just bowls not fitted for a specific purpose. The bowl on the DT adapter should have the exact same diameter on both as they are made to fit the same unit with only the glass to glass portion being different to couple with said 18mm or 14mm glass stem.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Yep, I was referring to the bowls discussed (with the glass screens). The DT adapters wouldn't matter, unless the 18mm sticks. They both seem like great options until StevenLmz releases his bowl, before NV releases the official official glass bowl!
Glad you are loving it man, but Im sure glad your video is on loop- I got my popcorn out when I saw "Zow237 replied..."
I only took one bite though reading your post!
But luckily I could munch some more down while your video looped several times.Saved half the bag for your more detailed thoughts later.
Like, how do you like the airflow? Do you find it much more open than the GS?
I know its far too early (like half an hour lol), but I dont see your GS in the classifieds yet?
Sorry bro, not taking the michael honestly just joking around.
I will be interested in yoyr thoughts though on these two, I am secretly betting the GS may go and the SH stay to keep SSV company. Just love making fun predictions anyway.
How is the flavour from the SH? A noticeable drop down from the SSV? Maybe the SH effects will make up for that though?
No need to answer anything specifically, just some guidelines to get your official "review" started, (which we all wanna hear in full
- it is actually an unwritten contractual obligation that comes with having checked out so many top vapes in quite quick succession.)Respect to all hope it is a good day for everyone as the weekend rolls in.
My mum is currently downstairs vaping one of our indica autos in her Showerhead (just heard her coughing!)
Zow237
Well-Known Member
Glad you are loving it man, but Im sure glad your video is on loop- I got my popcorn out when I saw "Zow237 replied..."
I only took one bite though reading your post!
Saved half the bag for your more detailed thoughts later.
Like, how do you like the airflow? Do you find it much more open than the GS?
I know its far too early (like half an hour lol), but I dont see your GS in the classifieds yet?
Sorry bro, not taking the michael honestly just joking around.
I will be interested in yoyr thoughts though on these two, I am secretly betting the GS may go and the SH stay to keep SSV company. Just love making fun predictions anyway.
How is the flavour from the SH? A noticeable drop down from the SSV? Maybe the SH effects will make up for that though?
No need to answer anything specifically, just some guidelines to get your official "review" started, (which we all wanna hear in full
Respect to all hope it is a good day for everyone as the weekend rolls in.
My mum is currently downstairs vaping one of our indica autos in her Showerhead (just heard her coughing!)
I will be giving my complete thoughts when I have thoroughly tested
I'm trying not piss anyone off with what I have to say hhah.
I plugged my dhgate enail into a kill-a-watt meter curious how the power draw is. I have my halo cleaning in the WA head right now at 900F. The real time monitor bounces between 22-108 watts and all in between. I know this was a curiosity at some point in the thread, I just don't remember who or when it was.
Larrytargeteye
Vapin' stevens
I thought the page had gone quiet but not so,i hadnt gotten an email for two days and decided to look at the thread and to find ive missed 3 or more pages of comments.not to go off topic but why does that happen?