I have both the OG and XL. It is for sure the 4 hole ceramic tube for the OG. I thought it was weird when I opened the case and the ceramic tube fell out. It is definitely too small in diameter and too short for the XL. I bought two XL's when they had the big sale and I know they were going nuts trying to get all the orders out in a timely manner.
Camouflet Convector XL
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I have both the OG and XL. It is for sure the 4 hole ceramic tube for the OG. I thought it was weird when I opened the case and the ceramic tube fell out. It is definitely too small in diameter and too short for the XL. I bought two XL's when they had the big sale and I know they were going nuts trying to get all the orders out in a timely manner.
sansei
good vibes only
The folks over at Camouflet will get you straightened out. They have top notch service!
Absolutely!! I already have experience!! They are the best!! I can deal with a few minor frustrations! They are a great company and trying to deal with a bunch all at one time. All will be well!
SlickHenry
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If you look on their website it says they click in and fit with friction.
1x XL Stainless Steel Chamber Screen - Friction fit and replaceable
Also see the XL manual here
SlickHenry
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Suggest if you want people to help you are little clearer and not so blunt when they don't first grasp what you are asking.
I read your post as you said the screen came out with the ABV. Apologies, I now understand.
I read your post as you said the screen came out with the ABV. Apologies, I now understand.
I wrote screens in cap fell out in my original post, sorry wasn't trying to upset you I just didn't get why u were telling me to push them in and reread the manual. I was really trying to see if this has happened to anyone else
Idk how I could have been any clearer
Idk how I could have been any clearer
Tiny88
Deluxe420
Yes, one screen fell out after 2 couple of months if using the XL... did not doing anything to cause this. I tried putting it back in, but did not get it in leveled, so I had to very carefully get it back out with a pair fine tweezers. After a bit of a struggle, managed to put the top screen back in, it is working fine now.
Fearless Disaster
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Hello! I know the xl is a heavy hitter, but has anyone used it for sipping? Im looking for a manual sipping vape like the lotus but with better materials and IH compatibility. I saw in the convector thread that the convector can be used that way. Has anyone tried the do like that yet?
tots
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Je l'utilise comme ça personnellement une chauffe rapide quelques bouffées puis réchauffe etc... Je l'aime personnellement beaucoup le tirage aérien j'aime vraiment comparer à d'autres vape à torche.
Fearless Disaster
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I’d like to expand on this a little. I come from the ecig world and have been using titanium coils in my vape for over a decade. The subject of TiO2 comes up now and again.
First if all, the toxicity of TiO2 is not in question. It is toxic. However the method of delivery matters. This study show that Ti02 probably does not pass through dermal barriers but upon inhalation does go to the brain:
Toxicity of Nano-Titanium Dioxide (TiO2-NP) Through Various Routes of Exposure: a Review - PubMed
Nano-titanium dioxide (TiO2) is one of the most commonly used materials being synthesized for use as one of the top five nanoparticles. Due to the extensive application of TiO2 nanoparticles and their inclusion in many commercial products, the increased exposure of human beings to nanoparticles...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
TiO2 is used in many safe products like toothpaste that are not inhaled.
In the ecig world coil temperatures are around 450F. I actually regularly dry burn my titanium coils in a temperature controlled high temp device.
The point that titanium starts to barely glow in daylight is close to the temperature where it starts changing colors. The color goes from a golden straw color through blue and purple, back to straw colored, and past that titanium dioxide starts to form on the coil. For that reason i only dry burn my coils until they are blue or purple.
The conventional wisdom in the ecig world is to only use titanium coils in temperature controlled devices where there is no risk of temperatures that would create inhalable TiO2.
As induction heaters become more powerful, this is going to become an issue for them. I believe the Inductor is one of the first induction heaters in this new power class.
IMO glow that is easily visible in daylight could easily generate TiO2. And if it is generating it at the air input I would consider this a giant red flag. Is TiO2 only being generated with the Inductor or is it also happening with the wand?
I don’t have a convector yet, but am interested which is why I am reading these threads. When I saw the bit on inhaling TiO2 I felt like I should contribute what I’ve learned for the ecig world. I hope this is helpful!
zeebudz
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Did you also take into consideration the information presented in this e-cig post from a number of years back?
Dispelling rumors about Titanium Dioxide safety
Fearless Disaster
Member
thank you! I had not seen this but have seen some stuff like this over the years. Even in the e cig world, both sides of the debate provide material: opinions of qualified people, research papers, etc. And the qualified people are on both sides off the debate. The truth is no one knows for sure because no one is doing human studies and theories will only get one so far.
I am not trying to settle the debate because I am not qualified to. I am surfacing information in case the weed community hasn't heard it, including personal experiments because even in the ecig world only a tiny number of people are doing controlled dry burns of titanium coils.
In any case the TLDR is no one knows for sure, but in case anyone crusting their air intakes with TiO2 is unaware of the debate, hopefully they are now.
Fearless Disaster
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I suppose one thing that i should add is since no one will perform human studies, best practice in the ecig world is to stay away from inhaling TiO2 entirely. And the ecig world has always been less concerned about health than the weed vaping community because their comparison metric has been cigarettes. The weed community is the one that ditched stainless for titanium / glass etc. The nic vapers have largely ditched titanium for stainless coils purely on the potential harm of inhaling TiO2.
SlickHenry
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Did you hear back from Camoflet? Have just received my XL and the Quad Bore Ceramic cooling insert is also short. Although it came installed and seems to be staying in there but does not come all the way to the end of the stem.
Edit: received a super fast reply from Camoflet. There is a small gap between the insert and mouth end to allow you to add mouthpieces.
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Oh yes!!! They responded on Christmas day!!! There is an issue with the ID of the stem? The ceramic tube is the correct one. They sent me a replacement stem the next day. The support is exceptional and even more impressive given they are a new company with a ton going on! I have to confess I love this company and how they have come up with this simplistic but brilliant design approach. Minor issues don't bother me a bit and I am highly critical by nature. Color me impressed!!!
I forgot to mention...I cleaned my personal XL for the first time yesterday? I noticed the ceramic cooling tube could easily be pushed out after 91% alcohol soak with all the o-rings still in correct position. I was using a q tip to clean the ends of the tube and the tube came out. I reinserted it from the mouthpiece end and it felt like a hard stop at the very end of travel? The end of the ceramic tube was the correct distance from the end of the mouthpiece. I concluded Camouflet had designed this such that the ceramic tube will always be oriented correctly relative to the chamber. Sure Camouflet will jump in and correct me if I am off base.
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SlickHenry
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So had my first couple of bowls on the XL the first of which was a small half bowl. Not much vapor but great flavour. Several reheats left me a little puzzled as to technique but by the second fuller bowl I nailed it.
Heated about 12 pulses of the very tip of the vape in the wand and then 2 deeper pulses and softer test pull. I got a shocking amount of thick vapor. Full pull and so much vapor I struggled to cope with all the terps! I even thought I had combusted as it was so thick.
Slight pause to recover and 7 more shallow pulses and one deeper one and even more thick vapor! Feeling it now, so take a seat and let the vape cool down. Open the cap expecting to see very dark ABV. It is just a medium roast! Wow this device is just like a really tasty vapor blunt!
My conclusions are the batteries of the wand need to be full. Also draw speed seems to be key. If you draw too fast it seems to kill the heat in the tip. A gentle draw produces huge clouds. Tomorrow I am going to try it through glass.
Heated about 12 pulses of the very tip of the vape in the wand and then 2 deeper pulses and softer test pull. I got a shocking amount of thick vapor. Full pull and so much vapor I struggled to cope with all the terps! I even thought I had combusted as it was so thick.
Slight pause to recover and 7 more shallow pulses and one deeper one and even more thick vapor! Feeling it now, so take a seat and let the vape cool down. Open the cap expecting to see very dark ABV. It is just a medium roast! Wow this device is just like a really tasty vapor blunt!
My conclusions are the batteries of the wand need to be full. Also draw speed seems to be key. If you draw too fast it seems to kill the heat in the tip. A gentle draw produces huge clouds. Tomorrow I am going to try it through glass.
Testersinc
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Testersinc
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Hands free wand
Gl i made this quick video to help out some new guys.. Im new camouflet user as well and just sharing experience. Just look at description for steps
Gl i made this quick video to help out some new guys.. Im new camouflet user as well and just sharing experience. Just look at description for steps
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coolbreeze
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I love how it looks like you're launching away from it once the vapor begins to flow, like a space ship.
TedJones
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Nice! Where’s the convector though? Is that the vid in the Tempest thread?
Is cool! I like the swoosh sounds of the movements. A lot of going on in these
Testersinc
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LOL sorry about that. I fixed the url in my link
I was prolly messed up earlier when i uploaded the link bahhaha
I was prolly messed up earlier when i uploaded the link bahhaha
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