floribud
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Just curious, how do you tell if you are only getting 60-65 watts. If you set the Flare to 80 W, how do you know the actual output?
Battery Free Ganz - The Flare Induction heater
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Minsc_NBoo
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So I have been wondering if the YLL decapping thing would works with Dani Fusion and the flare?
www.vapewellness.co.uk
I want to use the magnet but I really don't want to scratch the cover
DynaVap Decapper Stand
The DynaVap Decapper Stand will help you to easily remove your hot DynaVap Cap without any effort. Just place in magnet and slide. The cap will stay trapped and the DynaVap can easily be removed leaving the cap behind. Available now at vapewellness.co.uk
I want to use the magnet but I really don't want to scratch the cover
anome
Active Member
Just going by the wattage display output on the flare device itself. For me the flare has only indicated either 60 or 65 watts, which appears to be related to the depth as adjusted at the time of the start up sequence.
Just stick a dynamag on the magnetic part of the flareSo I have been wondering if the YLL decapping thing would works with Dani Fusion and the flare?
DynaVap Decapper Stand
The DynaVap Decapper Stand will help you to easily remove your hot DynaVap Cap without any effort. Just place in magnet and slide. The cap will stay trapped and the DynaVap can easily be removed leaving the cap behind. Available now at vapewellness.co.uk
I want to use the magnet but I really don't want to scratch the cover
Minsc_NBoo
Active Member
I did try that, but it doesn't feel very stable and moves easily
To be fair I thought that too when using the dynamag but then I used Mad Heaters magnet and that was stable and sterdy. Think it just comes down to magnet strength
Minsc_NBoo
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Thanks, I should hopefully be getting my Tempest today, but I forgot to get some accessories so I'll add a magnet when I order
I did see a post on reddit today with someone using the Flare to heat their tempest. I did see mixed reviews about the compatability, so I'm now hopeful it might work
rebelFarmer
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It works its just limited around 65-70w per readout on the screen, sometimes you can get a bit more if you angle it.
Minsc_NBoo
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I tried the Flare last night. First session it only got to 60w, but the next 2 were 70w. 45 seconds got the VI to a little past the second notch and gave me a good MTL session.
I think I can push the time a little bit more, but I'll tread carefully!
Sativapo
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Tried it for the first time with the fusion 1. At 100w for 45 sec sd advised.I get the "cooling" message quite easily after a heat up. It gets pretty hot. After 2 heat ups I can't do a 3rd one like 5 min later. I wonder if it's faulty or does anybody else had this issue? I put it on the side bu I don't know it that plays a role. Maybe I'll wait for my molicells too. I use vtc5a while waiting.
Edit : after a bit more testing it doesn't do it with my tempest (goes only between 55-70w) or TA3 (100w).
Edit : after a bit more testing it doesn't do it with my tempest (goes only between 55-70w) or TA3 (100w).
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Minsc_NBoo
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I've not come across that message. I've been going between 110w to 120w. 120w for 40 secs is perfect for using on a bong. My AVB does not go too dark, which is my preference
I've only ever used the Flare upright so I'm not sure if that played a factor?
chimpybits
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This Cooling message also occured for me when I first ran my Flare and Fusion v1. That was about a month ago - thanks Soothing Vapours
This setup has been my DD and that message came up one other time. Ive been ignoring it.I also have an issue with the battery charge level indicator. Unreliable - shows full after a couple sessions and won’t charge for instance. Anytime I charge it (in device), it always shows full and doesn’t charge and I have to plug and unplug, power off and on, until shows less than full and starts charging.
Also taking the attitude of ignoring this. I should get external charger anyway. Ultimately I want something like the VHB desktop at home.
The bottom of mine is a bit warped too so that the bottom cover doesn’t sit properly causing the unit to sit a bit wobbly. Also, ignoring that.
The overall finish of my Flare is less satisfying than my YLL 2.0.
But I like this Flare and Fusion setup. It has easily replaced my dV and IH as my driver.
EDIT what have you set your depth to? Mine is set to flush to the bottom or a bit protruding.
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floribud
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i had just found out The Flare wasn't going to hit the Tempest at full power (right after I ordered both), so the VAS kicked in an I got a TA3. After combusting on my first attempt (misread the recommended time), I've now been hitting it at 120W and 35 seconds. And this has been just amazing. The glass revolve (rainbow) stem works pretty well with the heat. It's starts to heat up after about 2 min, but I've even given it. a little 10 sec warmup with the Flare and it's been fine. At this point pretty much all the good flavor is sucked out of the herb.
The thing I can't believe is the quantity of the vapor, yet it still tastes so cool. No "bickel tickle". Somehow the vapor seems cooler than Dynavap vapor, yet it just keeps coming. Pretty happy with this setup, can't wait to try the Tempest, but can it be much better than this? Not sure how it could be. Well at least the Tempest has the easily removeable cap. Haven't had any issues with the screw top either. The TA3 and Flare are absolutely killer.
Also the coloring of the TA3 after a few heatups looks perfect with the rainbow stem.
Raphael De La Ghetto
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Currently soaking my Dani and a Mighty mouthpiece in iso. Decided to try a Dynavap in the Flare.
Was cocky and went past the click by 5-6 seconds, and had my first combustion in 10+ years. Oops!
Best was my wife in the other room: "Do you smell skunk?"
Was cocky and went past the click by 5-6 seconds, and had my first combustion in 10+ years. Oops!
Best was my wife in the other room: "Do you smell skunk?"
mixchu69
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I just tried 120w at 30s with the ta3. Perfect roast. Makes me want to get the fusion 2. Really like the flare
floribud
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Yea a Fusion 2 will have to be on the wishlist now
Ralphonzo
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I've been using Fusion 2 with the Flare for just over a week now. Works great, been sticking to 100W for around 43-45 seconds but might experiment a bit more but this works pretty great. Also got the metal WPA which works absolutely perfect for me. Wish I jumped on the Fusion sooner, I've completely retired my Dynavaps and with the Flare it's great. Probably my favourite vape I own and personal favourite I've used tied maybe with my friends Tinymight 2.
Sudolewdo
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I really like the Flare with the Thermal Accumulator... I was using it with the Tempest; that’s what I originally ordered the Flare for - but I am not totally happy with how I’m heating the Tempest; results vary
I had a new TA3 heater so I figured I would use it in the Flare to allow me to see exactly what’s being heated so I can better position the Tempest to make sure I’m only heating the induction sleeve and not the VI or click discs which seemed to happen each time I used it.
I started off figuring out a setting that I liked using for the TA3 and then to repeat that heat cycle over and over again until the batteries ran out.
I ended up settling in with 90W for 45s with the adjustment within the coil set to as high up as it can go.
Managed 22 bowls off the 3 batteries I had in there 2x3000mAh + 1x2800mAh and there is no need to hold it in position or anything... definitely my go to way to use my TA3 now.
This is the TA3 over the 22 heat cycles and how it changed
This is how simple and effective the Flare is with the Thermal Accumulator (TA3)
This is me trying to figure out how to use what I learned with the Tempest
I just got my hands on the Tempest, I'm trying to dial it in on the Flare and I'm reading back this thread to see what people worked out.
If I'm understanding your post correctly, you found the best spot for the spacer was screwed up as far as it could go?
@oddjobold mentioned trying the glass wand insert that came with the Tempest, and I'm happy to report that it fits in the Flare like a glove. So I've done a few runs with the spacer basically sitting on top of the threads with the wand insert sitting on top of that.
Does this depth look pretty good?
At this height I seem to be consistently getting 75w max, but I'm unsure how long I should be heating for. I've seen 45s mentioned a few times, and when I heat for that long I seem to get decent results. Only thing is I've checked the VI after the 45s and it's not quite touching the first notch. Not sure if this means I'm not heating for long enough, or my VI needs calibrating (or more time to break in).
anome
Active Member
I would suggest that the tempest is not deep enough, but when you get it down to the right depth the Flare will probably lower the wattage ... lower wattage, increased time.
The carb caps that come with the wand are a fit for the Flare, no more holding the wand on the carb cap in your water piece. Just need to rig up a lift to get the hot cap back into the pipe, knew those paper clips were still of some use.
The carb caps that come with the wand are a fit for the Flare, no more holding the wand on the carb cap in your water piece. Just need to rig up a lift to get the hot cap back into the pipe, knew those paper clips were still of some use.
Sudolewdo
Member
Yeah it seems finding the right spot is a bit tricky, I know that with the spacer towards the bottom it heats the bowl too much, but as you say I suspect I might have gone too far the other way. Hopefully once I get the VI sorted it'll be easier to dial in.
Flow
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Hello there !
mine arrived yesterday !
I'm pairing it with a Dani fusion 2.0, and i use the "half bowl" size
How do you set your flare (power, timer, and depth) with this combo ?
EDIT : 100W / 40 sec seems to be the favorite set for most of you here. How deep do you set your fusion in ?
mine arrived yesterday !
I'm pairing it with a Dani fusion 2.0, and i use the "half bowl" size
How do you set your flare (power, timer, and depth) with this combo ?
EDIT : 100W / 40 sec seems to be the favorite set for most of you here. How deep do you set your fusion in ?
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Smknbud
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Per BFG
Running recommendations:
Fusion:
100w-120w 35-45 sec, stopper set at the lowest setting with the battery plate still fitting on.
Stunner:
Registers at 70w for 50-55sec with the stopper set at the highest setting.
Hyperdyn:
60w-80w 25-30 seconds with the stopper set at the lowest setting. It will work at 120w, but it’s way too much heat all at once. I have combusted every time at the click and 120w
Armored Cap:
80w-100w, 20-25 seconds with the stopper at the lowest setting with the battery plate still fitting on.
TA3:
100w-120w for 30-35 sec with the stopper set as high as it will go. I added an extra 8.5mm stopper from my yll2.0, and it worked great.
Thermocore without sleeve:
Registers 60w – 70w at roughly 60 seconds with the stopper set at the lowest setting with the battery plate still fitting on.
Thermocore with sleeve:
Registers a max 120w for 27-30 sec with the stopper set at the lowest setting with the battery pack still fitting on. It works better at lower wattages.
Duracore without sleeve:
Registers at 65w-80w at 45-50 seconds with the stopper set at the lowest setting with the battery plate still fitting on.
Duracore with copper sleeve:
Registers at 120w for 25 to 27 seconds with the stopper set at the lowest setting with the battery plate still fitting on. Works better on lower wattages.
popitup
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I know it's good advice to use an external charger, but I've been using the device's USB-c port instead. Recently, after a few months of doing this, I noticed the batteries will not charge this way any more, but only externally. The animation for charging still plays on the flare. I don't have enough batteries to test if it's the batteries or device yet. Anyone else experience issues with the device charging batteries?
Flow
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I did try to charge mine with USB-c on a phone charger (2Amps) but as the flare indicates they are full, no more blinking signal on the display, i took batteries appart and place it in my external charger to check : 3.93V each instead of a full 4.20 for my 3 brand new unused batteries.
i dunno if it's ok, but i'll charge them in an external charger from now. USB charge seems nor to be accurate, neither reliable.
i dunno if it's ok, but i'll charge them in an external charger from now. USB charge seems nor to be accurate, neither reliable.
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