OF
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Ya know, you might not say all that much around here, but when you do it's worth yer while to stop and listen some. Thanks again for another great contribution....or a couple of 'em in this case.
OF
Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci
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Ya know, you might not say all that much around here, but when you do it's worth yer while to stop and listen some. Thanks again for another great contribution....or a couple of 'em in this case.
OF
Don't get so caught up on the glass-on-glass myth. No, you won't notice a difference in taste by adding a single screen to the vapor path.
Sativape
Well-Known Member
@OF,
Looks like an electrical genius at work!
Looks like a heavy duty charger there.
Ahhh.... seeds and stems... (those were the good ol days).
I occasionally run into some seeds when my Jamaican friends share some of that good ol cess!
@Purrito Purrpants,
I can verify that my Ascent wall charger plugged into car inverter works!
Plug it in, charges up, turn it on, heats up, unplug it still heats up, plug it back in, still heats up.
It is fool proof.
So this is the best solution for me (us) (let me know if you need help picking out a car inverter)
I'm going to still keep the Davinci car charger for emergency back up, or when I need to travel in someone's car for charging only.
@mixchu69
Thanks for confirming your experiences also with the car charger.
I am thinking it is most likely the car's 12VDC port not supplying enough amperage.
The Davinci car charger is rated at 12VDC 3A, so I'm bringing it to my friend'ss shop and going to prove out if it is the car or if it is the Davinci car charger that is not. He has a 12VDC power supply that pump out up to 3A.
I will keep you guys posted.
Looks like an electrical genius at work!
Looks like a heavy duty charger there.
Ahhh.... seeds and stems... (those were the good ol days).
I occasionally run into some seeds when my Jamaican friends share some of that good ol cess!
@Purrito Purrpants,
I can verify that my Ascent wall charger plugged into car inverter works!
Plug it in, charges up, turn it on, heats up, unplug it still heats up, plug it back in, still heats up.
It is fool proof.
So this is the best solution for me (us) (let me know if you need help picking out a car inverter)
I'm going to still keep the Davinci car charger for emergency back up, or when I need to travel in someone's car for charging only.
@mixchu69
Thanks for confirming your experiences also with the car charger.
I am thinking it is most likely the car's 12VDC port not supplying enough amperage.
The Davinci car charger is rated at 12VDC 3A, so I'm bringing it to my friend'ss shop and going to prove out if it is the car or if it is the Davinci car charger that is not. He has a 12VDC power supply that pump out up to 3A.
I will keep you guys posted.
Amoreena
Grown up Flower Child
I put one on the oven's bottom (under herb) to stop any crumbs from falling through holes. Couldn't see anyplace else screens might be intended to go.
Sativape
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I put one on the oven's bottom (under herb) to stop any crumbs from falling through holes. Couldn't see anyplace else screens might be intended to go.
@ajadbe
@Vaporcussion
I've seen some youtube vids where people are tucking another screen in the main body right below the glass filter.
I didn't like this method and the screen did fall into the bowl.
I was also worried about the screen getting jammed in between the body and bowl swivel seals causing any damage.
I will post pictures soon of my method:
I've used a 3/4" extra fine mesh metal screen and cut it in an oval shape.
I formed the edges so is fights snugly into the top ridge of the oven.
I also use a extra fine round screen at the bottom of the bowl.
I find the screens that Davinci supplies are too course for my fine grind.
Also, by using the formed oval screen on top of the oven, allows me to tightly pack the bowl, without putting any pressure on the glass filter, infact there is not contact with the top filter.
This produces hella thick @ss clouds!!! mmm mmm tasty vapey!
I will post pictures of the real deal, but here is a diagram and hopefully you mofos will understand what my above gibberish was trying to explain:
And please, no requests for doing your web pages.
I know my Microsoft Paint skills have been honed to the finest degree but please, I am a busy man, playing with my new toy... The Ascent!!!
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The refurbished units have an "R" instead of a 1 in the serial number, e.g. 2AA1 would be made in 2014 and 2AAR is refurbished.
OF
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Love it. Somewhere around here I have a 'rebuilt' Craftsman drill motor I bought a LOT of years ago with "R" crudely added (engraved) to the metal nameplate. Not warrantied, as it's 'still going strong'. Scares me to think of all the holes that sucker has bored. I've always considered (honest) referbs to be a better option since it's been inspected/tested more (and is therefore more likely to meet all specs).
Thanks for 'the straight poop' here.
OF
vapecapz
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So it's time to retire my Ascent today. I did have some good experiences with it, but I couldn't help but feel it required to have 3rd party fixes and widgets to even work properly, which also made unloading and loading too fiddly.
I bought the Mighty by Storz & Bickel. This is an example of a portable vape that works well straight out of the box.
I bought the Mighty by Storz & Bickel. This is an example of a portable vape that works well straight out of the box.
Sativape
Well-Known Member
@OF,
Very true.
If there was a component or manufacturing issue.
Sadly, for Black Friday, I had to go with some new Panini griddles because they were actually cheaper than the refurb! (say whaaaat?)
@vapecapz,
The Mighty is a beast for sure.
The Crafty is also a beast.
I've know people who have issues with both vapes.
Actual heating issues.
All vapes have their quirks.
I stood at the shop, held onto to the Mighty, Crafty, Haze, Indica, and the Ascent... and still found that the Ascent was my best back up vape. (for my price range and requirements).
PNP is still my daily driver!
Mighty is at a higher price point.
You get what you pay for.
I actually find the loading process for the Mighty and Crafty a complete nuisance.
So do my friends that own them.
Ironically, they now load them the same way that they load the Ascent.
mixchu69
Well-Known Member
The more I try my ascent after using my mighty, I realize that the ascent gives similar flavor as the mighty, but the density lacks. I really thought the mighty would destroy the ascent, but I find that my ascent was good. Bought it earlier this year so might be a newer model. The only thing that worries me is the temp setting. When using the ascent, I turned it up 20degress Fahrenheit during the middle of a session, the ascent doesn't warm up but shoots to the exact temperature instantaneously, making me think that something is wrong. I was wondering if I can still send it in?
First off, there's an air leak in the vapor path of the Ascent - this may be why you aren't getting dense vapor. Try using the straight 14mm waterpipe adapter as a mouthpiece - you'll produce some wicked clouds at higher temperatures.
Your Ascent is working just fine, sending it in will not fix your problem - The temperature gauge shoots up when it's close to temperature.
Keep in mind the temperature is measured on the exterior of the oven - it is not a 100% accurate representation of the actual heat of your load. When the Ascent reaches "close" to the set temperature, it will display the set temperature and coffee cup icon. Aside from the initial heatup to temperature, I rarely pay attention to the gauge since it's really not accurate.
I'm still waiting on those spacers @Davinci_vaporizer !
Did anyone notice that you can now buy an extended warranty "service plan" for your Ascent.....
http://www.davincivaporizer.com/ascent-vaporizer-extended-warranty/
MrNaturalAZ
Tree hugging dirt worshipper
Ditto what @Ratchett said about the temperature display. While I'd personally prefer it displayed measured temp in real time, I think that would end up causing more complaints about why the temperature is constantly changing (which, in reality, it is - not only as the heater cycles, but, even more-so, as it is drawn on). They probably made a carefully considered decision to have it display actual temp during initial heat-up, and then switch to set temp once it gets there.
That said, here's a suggestion for a future firmware revision (are you listening, @Davinci_vaporizer ?) - perhaps there could be some setting to allow the user to choose to display measured or programmed temp, as desired, or maybe keep the present display behavior, and add a "finger dance" of some sort to momentarily display the measured temperature for those who care to see it.
Oh, and as for the actual performance, someone, I forget exactly who (was it @OF?), so I'm sorry not to be able to offer proper credit, did some tests a while back, inserting a thermocouple into the oven to measure the actual temperature, and found it to be reliable and accurate. It was via that experimentation that the amount of temperature drop during a typical draw was also learned.
mixchu69
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What is the best way to use the ascent for concentrates? The glass cans suck. Thanks for some advice.
Thanks ratchet. Can you post a link to one of these 14 mm water pipe adapter as a mouthpiece? I just want to make sure I buy the right one. Really appreciate the help.
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OF
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Yup, that's what's behind it. While there's lots of ways for stuff to die (including people), there's a common factor called 'infant mortality'. If your cell phone, car, child or whatever 'lives' for the first little bit it's chances of a long life are much better than average. The curve of age against number that die starts high, then drops fast. Once the kid gets to school age he's almost sure to live into his 60s. After 'dealer issues' are sorted out you car might go 100,000 miles with no major problems (discounting for intoxicated owners and phone poles). If your vape doesn't 'die right away' it's probably not going to die before you get tired of it.
Most routine consumer products like Ascent are solid enough so that workmanship becomes the major 'quality' issue in production. Most problems (wrong part, incorrect installation and such) are found by inspection rather than testing. A referb has already been there, the chances it gets to you with such problems are very low already, then a hopefully well trained guy goes over it again as an individual not part of a run (another plus) and typically they'd be tested/inspected all over again. How they end up priced the way they do is beyond me, whim of the marketing/distribution gods?
Funny, we too bought a Panini press last month (small world, eighwhat?). Fun thing. I bet we've used it 2 days out of 3? A couple times I've had to fish the plates out of the dishwasher and wash them by hand so we could use it again........
Busted. Yeah, it was my evil twin again:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/ascent-vaporizer-by-davinci.9885/page-111#post-4
Screw credit, none of us are using our real names here.......... Good show the information got through, that's the important part.
I noticed the 'it lies to you about how soon you get there' but I too understand why they'd do it. I also found what I think is astounding accuracy when things get stable.
Fun machine all right, not near as simple as it looks. IMO some serious effort went into it....and no doubt still is.
OF
http://www.davincivaporizer.com/glass-straight-water-tool-adapter-14mm/
Just make sure when you use it, to press it firmly into the opening so the base rests against the bottom of the chamber. You'll notice a difference in vapor density if you use this tool pressed against the bottom, verses if you lift it 0.25 inches off the bottom and allow cool air into the vapor path
mixchu69
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What was your reason for retiring the ascent? Thanks
The Ascent heats up from room temp to 375 in under a minute, a 20 degree jump is no problem for the power this vaporizer pushes. It does heat up the extra 20 degrees within 2-3 seconds easily. That is not a defective unit. We are looking into current temp over set temp but a 20 degree jump does happen that quickly. The only advantage to current over set is you would be able to see the drop in temperature when you draw from it, then when it is back to temp.
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mixchu69
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http://www.davincivaporizer.com/glass-straight-water-tool-adapter-14mm/
Just make sure when you use it, to press it firmly into the opening so the base rests against the bottom of the chamber. You'll notice a difference in vapor density if you use this tool pressed against the bottom, verses if you lift it 0.25 inches off the bottom and allow cool air into the vapor path
Ratchet, would u sip straight from this adapter or use a mouthpiece? I don't want water filtration (taste is good and not harsh for me). I realize that you posted this not for water put to get better clouds
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KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
@mixchu69 : Yes you draw directly from the GonG tip. Otherwise you can use ED's wood stems (also a better mating than the stock ones) or use the above or below the buddy rim silicone o-ring fix, the latter being the hardest to implement but yielding the most air-tight solution from my experience.
mixchu69
Well-Known Member
Heres the wooden WonG on these units. It really helps with eliminating any leaks. Makes a tight seal with the Ascent. This is a 14mm
Hi carol, do you prefer the wooden or glass 14mm? It seems like wood would be easier on lips,, but aren't we buying this for the glass on glass. Please let me know the taste differences between the two
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
Well, one tastes wood, the other tastes... nothing. I think that's the difference! 
No but seriously some people like that woody taste, like a good old pipe you know? Some people dislike it though...
One thing is sure, whether you are clumsy or not, you will be less likely to break ED's stems than the glass ones!
No but seriously some people like that woody taste, like a good old pipe you know? Some people dislike it though...
One thing is sure, whether you are clumsy or not, you will be less likely to break ED's stems than the glass ones!
Lets_Vape
Well-Known Member
I enjoyed my Ascent a lot the last few weeks, the only annoyance I had with it is getting bits of herb into my mouth but that was quickly resolved
I've never been a fan of glass screens and prefer a fine metal one but couldn't get one to properly fit over the bottom of the stem and I didn't want to put one on my load each time.
Apologies if this was already mentioned, I was not able to find a mentioned of this using the search
I've taken the screen from a spare glass lined PnP mouthpiece I had laying around, it's a perfect fit for the top of the Ascent stem.
I will still get some plant matter in the Glass tube so I'll have to clean it so the Airflow doesn't get restricted but I don't think it's a lot more than most vapes with a screen
I imagine this can be made yourself using the correct size screen and doming it, it just seemed impossible for me to get it domed and going in properly, these screens were a perfect fit
And @Ratchett, great work on the docking station, it makes using this vape even better
I've never been a fan of glass screens and prefer a fine metal one but couldn't get one to properly fit over the bottom of the stem and I didn't want to put one on my load each time.
Apologies if this was already mentioned, I was not able to find a mentioned of this using the search
I've taken the screen from a spare glass lined PnP mouthpiece I had laying around, it's a perfect fit for the top of the Ascent stem.
I will still get some plant matter in the Glass tube so I'll have to clean it so the Airflow doesn't get restricted but I don't think it's a lot more than most vapes with a screen
I imagine this can be made yourself using the correct size screen and doming it, it just seemed impossible for me to get it domed and going in properly, these screens were a perfect fit
And @Ratchett, great work on the docking station, it makes using this vape even better