Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

[adam_baumm]

Hello. I just bought a new model stealth ascent. I get good results with my solo arizer. I cannot get one good pull out of this ascent. Tried: filling tight, filling loose, filling bottom and putting oil jar without lid. All at 200 to 205 c. Can you guys please help, I want to love this thing. Thanks

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Hello. I just bought a new model stealth ascent. I get good results with my solo arizer. I cannot get one good pull out of this ascent. Tried: filling tight, filling loose, filling bottom and putting oil jar without lid. All at 200 to 205 c. Can you guys please help, I want to love this thing. Thanks

Do you have the straight 18mm or 14mm Waterpipe adapter? Try using that as a mouthpiece (the retractable glass stem creates an air leak which allows fresh air into the vapor path). The straight waterpipe is a great mouthpiece which creates a great airtight vapor path.

Additionally a semi dense pack is required to achieve an optimal 'thermal load'

And since I know @OF will mention it, you can also try using glass flowers ("glass pipe screens") in the load to help transfer and maintain temperature throughout the load.

Try also to not pull so hard, there is very little draw restriction with the Ascent, pull too hard and you'll drop the temperature faster than the oven can keep up

 

[OF]

And since I know @OF will mention it, you can also try using glass flowers ("glass pipe screens") in the load to help transfer and maintain temperature throughout the load.

No need for that, you just did a bang up job of passing the word to the new owner....... Teamwork, you know, that's what made America great.

Most cool.

OF

 

[Amoreena]

... there is very little draw restriction with the Ascent ...

I experienced a lot of draw restriction until buying a set of glass uptake straws whose 4 holes happened to be larger than normal. That made all the difference. My husband enlarged at least one hole in the other glass sets which vastly improved air flow. I ground herb with my fingers so it wasn't fine enough to suck up easily. Just my worth.

 

[OF]

My husband enlarged at least one hole in the other glass sets which vastly improved air flow.

Excellent. While the draw is fine by me, not so by others it seems.

Good fix, IMO. Perhaps you should get a couple more husbands and go into the business?

OF

 

[Amoreena]

... Perhaps you should get a couple more husbands and go into the business? ...

(laughing) Someone's silly this morning.

 

[smokie]

Hello. I just bought a new model stealth ascent. I get good results with my solo arizer. I cannot get one good pull out of this ascent. Tried: filling tight, filling loose, filling bottom and putting oil jar without lid. All at 200 to 205 c. Can you guys please help, I want to love this thing. Thanks

The ascent is nothing like the solo and you have to use it differently, you should be able to get vapor from 360 upwards, probably lower but I start at 360. And inbetween sips you need to let it get back to heat. It produces good tasty vapor when you get the hang of it.
But don't be expecting clouds like solo. I'm not saying it doesn't medicate because it does. And you should get clouds. Just not solo clouds. I also find with ascent I don't usually grind. Just squeeze a piece in and tamp down when it stops producing to get everything out.

 

[adam_baumm]

Thank you kindly for the help. I will try a water pipe adapter and post results (any recommendations?) And should I grind a lot or leave it kinda chunky for the "dense pack"?
Thank you, I want to love this nice looking piece.

Hi smokie, are you saying zero grind, ie put in a nug? I'll try it.

I get pretty good results from solo, I get my biggest hits with the extreme q.

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

Hello all, I am a solo arizer and extreme q user, I love both of these. I am going to buy an ascent also for better portability , love solo but not easily portable for me. Question to DAVICI and thread users: how can I make sure I am buying the latest model of the ascent? serial number etc? I would like to buy the latest model only , thanks in advance. much love and respect.

Don't take this as a sales pitch but the easiest way to ensure you get the latest model would be to order direct from us as any resellers may have units that have been sitting for a while. The serial numbers that read "2AA1" means it was made in 2014, "1AA1" means 2013. I can tell you there has been no changes in manufacturing in a long long time. We own our factory in China so we do not out source our manufacturing. You are safe to purchase one just about anywhere but if you want the latest for whatever reason going direct is the best bet.

 

[KeroZen]

I can tell you there has been no changes in manufacturing in a long long time.

This means the buddy rim air gap has not been fixed yet? Come on! I've been told by @nigel that you are constantly making the device evolve. I can understand that you don't want to give all previous users a revised part for free but new buyers ought to get a corrected unit now that the problem has been clearly identified!

We're getting more feedback, interaction and tangible results / changes from a lot of vaporizer companies on this forum, including the makers of Haze, Indica, and even Smiss in China! And with you? Well, it's been months and we're still wating for the spacer/filler you promised us twice...

Don't rest on your laurels DaVinci, you got a great product but you need to keep improving it as the competition is stiff!

PS: @Ratchett please do some of your 3D wizardry and try to design a spacer, it would be so much more convenient than tiny glass flowers.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

PS: @Ratchett please do some of your 3D wizardry and try to design a spacer, it would be so much more convenient than tiny glass flowers.

I'm working on it!

But the safety of my customers is my first concern! I will not risk anyone's health (mine included) using materials I don't deem to be "vapor safe"....... That said, if anyone can recommend a good CNC metal shop, I might be able to get something milled from 316 stainless steel

 

[Glass004]

I can tell you there has been no changes in manufacturing in a long long time. We own our factory in China so we do not out source our manufacturing.

I have noticed an evolution of the glass stems over the last 6 months. The funnel/screen piece is at least 20% bulkier on my 2AA1 I just received than previous pieces on 2AA1 models I have owned. After having funnel stems disintegrate in my hands and shatter with cleaning, I think this change was a needed improvement.
I have used wood stems, which are easy to clean and don't tend to get as dirty as glass stems. I do not object to the wood taste. But the pure glass path gives better taste IMO.
There have been problems with the buttons failing on the Ascent. I have had 2 Ascents with premature button failures. I hope there have been some changes in your manufacturing to fix this problem. Your message could imply that no problems have been addressed, and you continue to sell known problems. Hence the frustrated consumer response.
@Davinci By the way, have you fixed your 12V power cord with the too short male plug???? Note that the 12V plug is much shorter than that found in the 120V power cord. The cord itself is too short, it's coil's extention limited by stiffness.
The Ascent is pure genius. That's why I have an Ascent to back up my Ascent. I think the price is fair considering the outstanding warenty DaVinci provides the customer.
I'll do a sales pitch, Buy, buy, and Buy the Ascent. Read and evaluate warenty and mailing return policies of the retailers to determine who you buy from. I would rather get a new full package replacement than a refurbished unit likely to still have the previous owner's problem. The extra stems and charger are nice with the full package, and I agree, a nice compensation for the inconveniences of product failure.
Oh yes, disclosure. I have not received an Ascent, any materials or money from DaVinci for any positive statements made. I only hope DaVinci stays in business for the next 18 months, so buy, buy, and buy the Ascent.

 

[Jambi619]

I've been using the Ascent a few days now and it's pretty awesome. It's smaller than my phone, heats up super fast, and the burl wood design I got is beautiful.

It doesn't blow Solo clouds, but Ascent clouds are nothing to scoff at. I did get some silicone taste with high heat and a fast draw, but long, slow draws taste great.

I tried using the water tool as a mouthpiece, but I think I prefer the normal stem pulled out just a lil bit. There's more airflow, but less stem sticking out, which is what I was trying to get away from on the Solo.

I really like how sleek this thing looks, but I think they made it a bit too sleek. It feels sort of slippery to me, like it could easily slide out of my hand if I'm not careful. Some sort of Otter box type jacket to give the top sides some texture would be great, or just a new model with improved side grip.

Still learning what temps to use. 375 seems like a decent start temp with 10-15 degree increases until finishing at 420. Also, I think I'm going to try loading two glass flowers in bottom and two on top. My main reason is to reduce the volume that needs to be packed, but I'm curious to see if it affects vapor production too.

 

[adam_baumm]

Don't take this as a sales pitch but the easiest way to ensure you get the latest model would be to order direct from us as any resellers may have units that have been sitting for a while. The serial numbers that read "2AA1" means it was made in 2014, "1AA1" means 2013. I can tell you there has been no changes in manufacturing in a long long time. We own our factory in China so we do not out source our manufacturing. You are safe to purchase one just about anywhere but if you want the latest for whatever reason going direct is the best bet.[/QUOT

I bought at torontovaporizer.ca, they are the only authorized Toronto seller. They are a very good company, they assurred me its latest model and they provide customer support, I have created a ticket with them. But I will still try all troubleshooting steps as well. But so far wispy to no vapor. I have tried: filling a dense pack with dry herbs, filling a loose pack, filling quarter way and putting oil jar without lid, I have tried squishing a dry bud in there and got some vapor for a couple minutes still wispy.

 

[OF]

It doesn't blow Solo clouds, but Ascent clouds are nothing to scoff at.

I suggest you give the glass flowers a try, it puts a big old dent in that gap. Depending on your thirst for big clouds it could be enough to satisfy.

Anyway, they're cheap and easy to try. Thus far I don't believe anyone has posted 'I've tried them and they don't help'. They do make loading a bit more fiddly, but lots of us find that an OK trade off either routinely or for 'special sessions'.

http://www.amazon.com/Glass-Flower-...195&sr=8-2&keywords=glass+pipe+screen+flowers

OF

 

[Jambi619]

2 steps ahead of you @OF. I got a bag of glass flowers when I ordered the Ascent. So far I've just used two on top but I'm going to try two on bottom, two on top for my next session.

 

[OF]

2 steps ahead of you @OF. I got a bag of glass flowers when I ordered the Ascent. So far I've just used two on top but I'm going to try two on bottom, two on top for my next session.

Cool.

Don't be shy. Strange as it is, "giving up valuable herb space" to the glass actually gets you more vapor.....if you remember to give it some time to recover heat between hits.

The insight from actually measuring the temperature inside the load in use is it's hottest just before you start the hit. Drawing cool air in cools the load down, the more you hit the cooler it gets. It can drop like 100F. Therefore, it's only herb up against the glass (walls or flowers) that can keep producing during the hit.

OF

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

This means the buddy rim air gap has not been fixed yet? Come on! I've been told by @nigel that you are constantly making the device evolve. I can understand that you don't want to give all previous users a revised part for free but new buyers ought to get a corrected unit now that the problem has been clearly identified!

We're getting more feedback, interaction and tangible results / changes from a lot of vaporizer companies on this forum, including the makers of Haze, Indica, and even Smiss in China! And with you? Well, it's been months and we're still wating for the spacer/filler you promised us twice...

Don't rest on your laurels DaVinci, you got a great product but you need to keep improving it as the competition is stiff!

PS: @Ratchett please do some of your 3D wizardry and try to design a spacer, it would be so much more convenient than tiny glass flowers.

The spacers are currently in route to the USA. We are still playing with the buddy rim but we are having some trouble. When we made a lip it caused the mouth piece to be extremely difficult to remove. We are always listening to issues brought up and coming up with solutions. I just moved to China to work in our factory full time so we can actually kick this development in to high gear. Feel free to send me any concerns and we will figure out a solution. We are aware of the air gap in the rim and the spacer is on its way.

I have noticed an evolution of the glass stems over the last 6 months. The funnel/screen piece is at least 20% bulkier on my 2AA1 I just received than previous pieces on 2AA1 models I have owned. After having funnel stems disintegrate in my hands and shatter with cleaning, I think this change was a needed improvement.

The glass is hand blown, we have not changed the manufacturing process, that was just luck of the draw.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

The spacers are currently in route to the USA.

I've been waiting for something! The Ascent's oven is HUGE - I rarely use my Ascent these days because I can't easily pack 0.2g and take it with me (glass flowers work, but they're a PITA, and the jar is only good for micro loads, not medium size loads)

 

[KeroZen]

@Davinci : great!

Did you try to make the lip very thin and of a larger diameter than the buddy rim "hole"? It would make some kind of bevel, leaving the hole diameter unchanged, and that hole would still be the only friction point with the straw? I'm just thinking out loud, but maybe you tested that already...

I made a dirty drawing to explain what I mean:

 

[Toitorva]

Thus far I don't believe anyone has posted 'I've tried them and they don't help'.
OF

I tried the glass flowers and they didn't help. On the contrary, I got less clouds and a less satisfactory experience with the flowers. Best method for me:

1) Fill the oven completely
2) Repeatedly tap on the side of the bottom part so that the oven is packed lightly
3) Fill a bit more in the oven - tap again
4) Use a metal mesh pipe screen (folded in half) to cover the oven
5) Start at 195 Celsius (383 F) - when I don't get anymore vapor I go up to max temp

Nice clouds (depending on the quality of the flowers used) & no combustion. It's obviously also important to have a slow & steady pace when inhaling.

 

[KeroZen]

@Toitorva : did you try to tamp the load hard to make a little flat puck? I always get a very noticeable difference when I do that vs just filling the bowl (as you seem to just tap tap it...)

In fact it seems to be the case in most conduction vapes: Pax, Indica, Flowermate. Compact the load and for some reason it works way better.

PS: "some reason" = there's a rational explanation of course, but I don't want to digress...

 

[Toitorva]

@Toitorva
I feel that if I compact the load too much I get worse results. A light / medium pack (achieved by the great tapping technique) works ideal for me..

 

[CarolKing]

You need to pack but not too tight. There needs to be some circulation of the heat. Slow and steady draws will get you there. Too hard of a draw with the Ascent does not work. It can't be treated like a desktop or like drawing from one of the old time pipes.

I start low and work my way up. First off you have to have herb that's been well cured and is not too damp. I use a medium to fine grind. Just do some practicing the Ascent does have a bit of a learning curve. I didn't like this unit at first. I was ready to sell it because I didn't think I was getting the clouds and enough vapor. I needed to change my draw technique. After I did that it was smooth sailing.

I know some folks have had problems with the Ascent. Plenty folks have had success. If somebody has issues with a vape they are going to be more vocal about it.

Good luck.

 

[OF]

I tried the glass flowers and they didn't help.

Thanks for the report.

While I don't doubt it, I find it very confusing. I objectively measured more heat available in the hit, up until now everyone who tried found the same clear improvement (although the degree could be different, of course). I wonder if there's another factor in play here.....moisture in the load perhaps? Some big change in technique?

Thanks again. While I can no longer say 'nobody reported....' I still think it's extremely likely to help the next guy that tries it, and the testing is cheap, easy and doesn't risk the Ascent in any way. For now I'll continue to recommend it to new (or old for that matter) owners.

OF