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mnmlh
Well-Known Member
Aha! Thanks lwien.
Working on a 3D computer rendering of a myrtlewood stem holder design that would be cool if somebody made. I like the short pencil holder style I've seen sold, it's simple and elegant, but what if the thing were more "protopipe-ish" in it's approach.
I wanted to get everyone's input and help come up with a final design through a collaboration process. Would it be okay to do that in this thread? It's designed specifically for these stems. I measured and modeled them down to the mm, so the final measurements of the holder should work perfectly in reality.
So far, the general goal is to create a stem stand, similar to a pipe stand, that has a spoon-like section at one end to hold some ready to be vaped material. You can use it to scoop/hold a little bit out of material at a time with, helping to dry it out, or just a way to meter your medicine. One of the only things I don't like about this experience so far is having to have all this stuff. If I could have a single item that was smallish, held the stem, fresh material and had a depository for AVB, then I'd be thrilled. I can't even imagine what that would look like though.
I want to be able to hold it in my lap and vape away without getting up too. Hmmm...
Working on a 3D computer rendering of a myrtlewood stem holder design that would be cool if somebody made. I like the short pencil holder style I've seen sold, it's simple and elegant, but what if the thing were more "protopipe-ish" in it's approach.
I wanted to get everyone's input and help come up with a final design through a collaboration process. Would it be okay to do that in this thread? It's designed specifically for these stems. I measured and modeled them down to the mm, so the final measurements of the holder should work perfectly in reality. So far, the general goal is to create a stem stand, similar to a pipe stand, that has a spoon-like section at one end to hold some ready to be vaped material. You can use it to scoop/hold a little bit out of material at a time with, helping to dry it out, or just a way to meter your medicine. One of the only things I don't like about this experience so far is having to have all this stuff. If I could have a single item that was smallish, held the stem, fresh material and had a depository for AVB, then I'd be thrilled. I can't even imagine what that would look like though.
I want to be able to hold it in my lap and vape away without getting up too. Hmmm...
mnmlh
Well-Known Member
I thought about that too. I think I will grind it once, separate out any little stems and let the kief fall through the screen and then reload that and grind without the bottom section on. Good tip on being too finely ground. I can see that being a problem since it lends a denser pack and lessens the amount of air flowing around everything. This shit is a science isn't it? hahaMileHigh said:
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I use my bud grinder for all my vapes except the PD/MZ style. For them I use a coffee grinder. I can get a couple extra hits from the fine coffee grind, and I can't achieve this off my bud grinder, even when turning upside down for a while. The down side is I have pulverized a bud into dust before. But now that I have the hang of it, I rarely use anything but my coffee grinder.
reece
Well-Known Member
I leave my grinder intact when grinding. I put the material in, turn it over, and grind until the cows come home. I do not dry my material. I use the straw method and lightly pack the tip with my finger when I want a full stem. I use the included stem tip packing tool (dowel) to lightly pack when I want less than a full stem. I pack the tip so that I can still draw quite easily.aero18 said:
In an earlier post I said I kept drawing on the stem a few more times after there is no visible vapor. Last night I was using my Zap near a halogen desk lamp. There is definitely visible vapor being produced when I thought there was none. So, generally, I get about 2 or 3 strong hits, 2 or 3 medium hits, and then a few more smallish hits using this mehtod. My clouds are as thick as those in videos I've seen of similar products. When I pack tighter I don't get the same results. But I attribute this to having to pull much harder to get the vapor flowing. Having to pull so hard takes from the experience. It's like hitting a joint that was rolled too tight or a dugout packed too tightly.
lwien
Well-Known Member
I just use a shot glass myself to hold a loaded stem. There's a few other things in that shot glass as well. A little electric razor brush for tiding up my grinder, a flat nail file for picking up kief to load in the bowl and a small paper clip thingie for help in emptying out the bowl for a quick grind between the fingers for one last hit.mnmlh said:
Nice idea though.
aero18
vaporist
Ordered the MyrtleZap yesterday (finally!) and the 100 ml EHLE that I have been sporting on my sig for a while.
I will definitely record some milk shots when I get the chance!
mnmlh, your avatar looks awesome. I decided against the light on mine, but I still love that blue light!
EDIT: Changed my order. I went with the light!
I will definitely record some milk shots when I get the chance!
mnmlh, your avatar looks awesome. I decided against the light on mine, but I still love that blue light!
EDIT: Changed my order. I went with the light!
Rick
Zapman
We might start a limited version of what we did for several years in the beginning. We called them stem holders. A small finished block of wood with a hole drilled in the top to hold a stem. Also did two stem versions. No scoop area for goodies though.
I do want to say MoeontheMoons set up looked cool but I want to warn that these things are not designed to be held upside down, especially at a side angle, by the vapor stem. You are putting lots of side pressure on the heatport tube and especially the smaller vapor stem tip tube. Both of these tubes are crimped for screen installation which will weaken the tube, especially with weight and side(gravity) pressure on it. A set up with the Zap on a flat surface would be ideal, as far as the Zap longevity is concerned.
Just turned a couple of the smaller stems. They will be out for a test by the end of the week. We are doing this because of several customer requests. We will call them small stems.
I do want to say MoeontheMoons set up looked cool but I want to warn that these things are not designed to be held upside down, especially at a side angle, by the vapor stem. You are putting lots of side pressure on the heatport tube and especially the smaller vapor stem tip tube. Both of these tubes are crimped for screen installation which will weaken the tube, especially with weight and side(gravity) pressure on it. A set up with the Zap on a flat surface would be ideal, as far as the Zap longevity is concerned.
Just turned a couple of the smaller stems. They will be out for a test by the end of the week. We are doing this because of several customer requests. We will call them small stems.
Any glass experts out there who can recommend a piece that will attach a vinyl or silicon tube to a piece of glass like mine in the picture (currently a 14mm piece to fit the stem down into); so what we glass/water users need is a way to attach a vinyl or silicon tube in between the glass pipe and the myrtlezap stem end. I have a little rubber piece that fits on the end of my tube and the stem, so really all I need is something to fit from the tube to the glass. My food grade vinyl tube is about 9.5mm outer diameter and 5mm inner diameter (hole). Actually I'd like to get silicon instead but don't know where to get it yet.Rick said:
This site may be helpful:
http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/store/h20-adapters.html
http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/store/h20-adapters.html
Looks like this would work, but they don't give the size of the tube it fits to, since it's designed for a Vapor Bros. whip. But it looks like I could make it work:karazi said:
http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/vbh20adgg.html
But first I'll try my local shops. Since The Vapor Bros. have their shop around here, most of the head shops carry their vaporizers and I'm assuming they carry some of the accessories too. I'll find out by just taking my stem and my vinyl tubing in to see what they have that will work.
Good to know someone has tried them. Yeah, Karazi, it looks like it would fit any size tube. I hope I can find one here locally within the next week or so, when I have time to go shopping, so I don't have to order it via net.FEAR420 said:I have both 14 & 19MM and they work perfectly. Its actually the only way I can vape now since regular whipping makes me hack & cough way too much. These are definitely the way to go for smooth water bonging
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
Man... I cant wait to 'discover' all of these tips and tricks for myself as well now! I just pulled the trigger on a MZ last night while chatting with Fear420. I had been debating getting one for some time, and 420 convinced me. Im super excited about this badboy! Cant wait!
mnmlh
Well-Known Member
Good move - it's a pretty light! Matches all the other cool blue leds I have on my computer accessories. I took the textures for the 3D stem holder off of my model, so you can really see the grain and beauty provided by myrtlewood. I'm a fan!aero18 said:Ordered the MyrtleZap yesterday (finally!) and the 100 ml EHLE that I have been sporting on my sig for a while.
I will definitely record some milk shots when I get the chance!
mnmlh, your avatar looks awesome. I decided against the light on mine, but I still love that blue light!
EDIT: Changed my order. I went with the light!
Happycamper
Sweet Dreams Babycakes
I also ordered yesterday the 100ml EHLEaero18 said:Ordered the MyrtleZap yesterday (finally!) and the 100 ml EHLE that I have been sporting on my sig for a while.
I will definitely record some milk shots when I get the chance!
mnmlh, your avatar looks awesome. I decided against the light on mine, but I still love that blue light!
EDIT: Changed my order. I went with the light!
, hopefully might come tomorrow depending on road conditions by then.
mnmlh
Well-Known Member
Where can you get a 100ml ehle in three days!?Happycamper said:I also ordered yesterday the 100ml EHLEaero18 said:Ordered the MyrtleZap yesterday (finally!) and the 100 ml EHLE that I have been sporting on my sig for a while.
I will definitely record some milk shots when I get the chance!
mnmlh, your avatar looks awesome. I decided against the light on mine, but I still love that blue light!
EDIT: Changed my order. I went with the light!
Happycamper
Sweet Dreams Babycakes
When you live in the UK 