Arizer XQ2

PeteyS

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Yes, I just went back to daves site, and it is called the onehitter/dugout system.
In my opionion, it works better then anything else i have for micro doses. Try it again, and see how it works for you.
I like it because it is intended to work with 0.045g of flower or less, and it can hit hard at low or high temps. Dave calls it a "dab", but for flower.
 

average_joe

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Yes, I just went back to daves site, and it is called the onehitter/dugout system.
In my opionion, it works better then anything else i have for micro doses. Try it again, and see how it works for you.
I like it because it is intended to work with 0.045g of flower or less, and it can hit hard at low or high temps. Dave calls it a "dab", but for flower.
Hey, I was on a break from cannabis so it took me a while to do a comparison but now here are my thoughts. It took me about 3 min at full temp to be able to get nice big hits from my XQ2 and the flavor was nice, the abv was very even after 4/5 puffs with 0.045, I had to use many adapters for the dug out to go straight to water without using a whip (I like straight to a hydratube). With my Enano using the same amount at full temp and with heat up of 3 minutes I was only on the lower temp flavor, very nice, nicer than the one the XQ2 can give at low temp but a meh hit compared to the XQ2 after the same amount of heat up time, it would take many draws (more than 12) to finish the bowl on the Enano if I kept using it instead of letting it pre heat properly, the amount of time needed to behave almost the same as the XQ2 was 9 min heat up, when doing the test starting with both at 9 min pre heat the experience was almost the same for cloud production and amount of draws to finish it off but the Enano has better flavor, the Enano needs stirring or the avb isnt as even as the XQ2.

So after this test I would go to the Enano most of the time if I want a toke with over 0.045g to get that better flavor but if I want to do smaller hits of 0.0.25g that I like in the morning (I am not vaping everyday anymore so I dont need much to get stoned in the early hours) I would pick the XQ2. If I didnt had a log vape I would def go for the dug out in the XQ2 most of the time for microdosing, it works super good. I didnt put my DIY ball vape or GSV in the test as I know it works better than any of the other vapes mentioned with any amount of cannabis, best flavor I tried and very even hit without stirring but it takes long to pre heat properly (maybe as long as the Enano, I dont remember and too lazy and stoned now to test) and I dont like the exposed heating element for a stoner like me so stopped using it a long time ago. Will def be using the dug out more, its very nice and I love the quickness (I was using mostly my SJ Hydramaxx for how quick it is but uses too much material to work properly everytime) so thanks a lot for remembering me about it, I even got the parts for a friend that doesnt have a log and needs to start microdosing :D, he will be amazed for sure.
 
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D4Dank

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Anybody know of any cases for the xq2? My box is falling apart and need something new to put it in when I take it places
 
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Yea that's the temp on the air blowing through it. That was plain weed, no concentrate. I let it heat soak for 5 min, 500, coarse grind, mesh screen on bottom also to protect the heating element. You can see it makes thick ass bags plus the flavor beats the volcano because it's glass vs metal IMHO. I got 2 bags to get it that dark at max temp.:tup: $160 shipped, 50% boxing day sale, couldn't resist!:nod:
 
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AJS

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Hello friends! Just snagged one of these at a steal, and looking forward to diving in and trying out all the fun shit it comes with.

Any recommended settings for a flavorful/consistent bag experience? Seen some mention a higher temp with a faster airflow, and others a lower temp with a lower airflow.

On convection vapes with big volume bowls, I've had good experience with faster draws and maintaining good flavor.

I'll be trying everything out that I can, but would love to hear suggestions. I know this thread isn't too talkative, so we'll see :)
 

AJS

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We out here grindin'!

Got some good use out of the XQ2 so far. I'm having a ton of fun as it's a totally different style of vaping than I'm used to.

For the price, it's such a well equipped desktop vape. I can see this being the perfect intro vape for anyone wanting to jump into vaping, and is a great vape if you want a new experience that you don't get from the now popular injection desktop / portable convection craze going on.

It hits hard as hell! If you crank up the temp and do a nice long draw, it can really spit out vapor. It's good for start/stopping as well too. When the load is cold after a few hits and sitting, I just throw on the fan for a few seconds to get vapor to start producing so I don't waste lung space, and I'm right back where I left off.

For bags, it's definitely been a lot of trial and error.

Tried a med speed 410 bag, and the flavor was not good, and the vapor was a bit harsh.

Tried a low speed 390 bag, and that was even worse. Think it's just not quite a low enough temp, and the slower fan speed just makes the vapor thicker which can make a bad flavor even worse, and can make it quite harsh as the vapor is thicker.

Tried High speed 375, and had great results. Actually could get some texture out of the flavor, and it was much smoother as the high airflow I think adds in more air to the vapor ratio, making it easier to take in.

Tried a low speed 355, and that was similar results to the high 375, but not quite as good. I think the higher fan speed works better for me.

I'm trying to do large packs to make sure the amount of herb is not a factor in results.

I think if you are playing around with quantity, if you're on the smaller amount, low airflow may make the most use out of it. If you have a lot of herb in there, you can get away with high airflow in my experience.

I'm also only using one strain at the moment, so I'll need to explore with different qualities of bud.

In general, the bag is tough to nail down, but I'm getting there.

Even with a bag on 355, I had great effects. Then I could just come back to the same bowl later with the whip at higher temp, and get a new sessions out of it.

I'm finding it very easy to keep the bowls clean, as you are drawing oils away from the screen, making it very easy to avoid clogging, as opposed to almost every other vape which draws towards the screen.

I've also been experimenting with half bags. The way I see it, regardless of the temp, the longer the herb is exposed to heat, the more flavor degrades in my experience.

Hoping to find a good mix of flavor and vapor in the bag, as I'm actually really enjoying that process.
 

AJS

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Switched on over to the flavor side of the bowl, and I am having some great results with that as well!
I think that way has been giving my bags a much easier time with flavor.

It makes it much easier to pack a smaller amount as well. Even then though, the XQ2 is certainly a weed hog compared to 18mm basket screen vapes. I knew that going into it though.

I haven't touched my other vapes since getting the XQ2, other than one or two Nano XL bowls when the XQ2 was off and I just wanted something quick.
It's not to say this will replace my main vapes, but it can at least hold its own and keep me away during the honeymoon phase.

I did miss the Herborizer day 1, but quickly started having more and more fun with the XQ2 as I got it figured out.

I look forward to trying something new with every session, there's just a lot of fun stuff to explore.

And the effects have always been very strong. Granted, I'm putting in significantly more flower compared to my other vapes, but it's been paying off. I've been having fewer, bigger sessions, as opposed to more frequent smaller sessions.

Filled up a bag on the flavor side of the bowl at 390f on High, and chilled on the couch watching the new Last Of Us episode. Nice smooth vapor, and really nice having nothing to clean up when the bag is done, as I cashed the bowl before sitting down. With portables, I always have to get up mid-show to cash a bowl, and that can be a bit of an annoyance.

Still enjoying it!
 

AJS

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Still exclusively using the XQ2 learning the ins and outs of it.

I've been using the bowl on the flavor side further from the heater, and having much better results with the bag this way.

Recently just did a sessions with a heaping 1/4 tsp of flower which was about .175 if my scale was correct.

First bag on Medium 380, only half filled. Flavor was actually great, each hit was the same, and the hits were thick as I didn't let the bag get diluted with more air towards the end of the bowl, only half filled.

Finished the bag, bumped up to 395, threw it back on for another half-bag using the same bowl, and still got decent neutral flavor and some nice thick hits.

Probably one of my best experiences yet.

I'm using the bag more than the whip...and I did not expect that.

Still just loving this thing. Very low maintenance as the airflow is traveling away from the bowl/heater (as I've mentioned).
I haven't had to stir at all.

Just threw away my ABV container as it was full, and starting a new one. Going to try to not stir at all, and see what my ABV looks like over time using my various methods on the XQ2. I believe it's going to be very consistent.
 

Madri-Gal

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Can't say I've used the bag function much, but still use the XQ2, and the EQ, as whip vapes. My temps have gotten higher over the years, but more 360-380 than 333. Don't use elbow joint or screen packing as much as I used to, but no criticism of either, just picked up other pieces I like and I got tired of basket screens, and wanted to rely on them less. That will change, I'm sure, and I'll suddenly remember how much I liked them, etc. The XQ2 is reliable, and I'm sure will be there through it all.
 

AJS

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Don't use elbow joint or screen packing as much as I used to, but no criticism of either, just picked up other pieces I like and I got tired of basket screens,
Are you referring to throwing a standard F2F on the heater, then a male end with a basket screen in to pack a basket instead of the standard bowls?
I haven't tried anything other than the stock setup.

Something like this, with the basket screen at the bottom of the male end pointed towards the heater?

 

hoptimum

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Are you referring to throwing a standard F2F on the heater, then a male end with a basket screen in to pack a basket instead of the standard bowls?
I haven't tried anything other than the stock setup.

Something like this, with the basket screen at the bottom of the male end pointed towards the heater?

The heater seems to be a rather long distance from the bowl. Do you know how far?
 
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AJS

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The heater seems to be a rather long distance from the bowl. Do you know how far?
Hello!
The bowl is on the bottom side of this M2M, not the top side. So the herb is slightly closer to the heater than having the stock bowl on flavor side. It's a bit farther than having the stock bowl flipped to be closer to the heater though. .. If that makes sense :)
 

hoptimum

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Hello!
The bowl is on the bottom side of this M2M, not the top side. So the herb is slightly closer to the heater than having the stock bowl on flavor side. It's a bit farther than having the stock bowl flipped to be closer to the heater though. .. If that makes sense :)
I understand that. The vaporizers I use all have the herb bowl much closer to the heater and a more tightly integrated heating chamber. I’ve found that having the heater and the herb closer together typically contributes to more efficient vapor and more flexibility in temperature control. Do you know why the company designed the EQ this way?
 
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I understand that. The vaporizers I use all have the herb bowl much closer to the heater and a more tightly integrated heating chamber. I’ve found that having the heater and the herb closer together typically contributes to more efficient vapor and more flexibility in temperature control. Do you know why the company designed the EQ this way?
Understood!

I've noticed that as well. For example, with my Nano XL, people typically move their screen further from the heater to allow for more room. Myself on the other hand keep the flower immediately under the heater, as close as possible. This gives me the best results of flavor, vapor, and control.

On the other hand, when I use my Herborizer, the flower sits a much farther distance away compared to my XL, but still closer than the XQ2. The heater is much stronger though compared to the XL and can easily take the added distance. They say this distance is what creates an effect that allows the air to heat the herb from more angles instead of directly top/down. Who knows.

I'm not entirely sure their reasoning behind the XQ2.
Maybe they like the idea of having a lot of head room for the flower to swirl around in the bowl. This is not my preference.

Maybe they wanted to avoid possible combustion with having the flower too too close, as it could possibly be a bit more sensitive to your draw, your pack, etc.


With the closer cloud bowl, if you draw a little too hard, with all of the headroom, there is herb flying around the bowl. This contradicts everything I know about convection vapes (as you mentioned as well with a "tightly integrated heating chamber"), which usually directs the heat to a concentrated area and funnels it directly through the herb with no empty space.

Despite this, even with the herb flying around in the chamber, I still get great clouds and it doesn't feel diluted with air. It goes against what I typically thought would work with a convection vape.

Still, I don't like the herb flying around in the chamber. Seems weird to me, and just doesn't seem possible to be as efficient.

This is why I opt for the flavor side of the bowl, as it's a much smaller chamber, and when packed to the appropriate height, the Screen from the Whip or the Bag prevents the herb from moving at all, it just stays put. This is more consistent with how I'd prefer to vape.

Of course though, this keeps the herb further away from the heater as a result.

I'm actually having consistently better flavor keeping the herb further away from the heater with the XQ2 using the further away Flavor side of the bowl as opposed to the closer Cloud Chasing side of the bowl. But I'll be testing with more strains.

I know you can simply drop the temp if you're close to the heater, or raise the temp if you're farther away, but it still seems to give different results even if the temp touching the herb is relatively the same.

I think the closer cloud bowl encourages a much larger pack, and that can possible effect flavor. Maybe the depth of the flower is preventing an even roast, and the closer part is darkening too quickly, leading to worse flavor.
It could just be that I need to pack less when I'm using the closer bowl, but then that's more headroom for the herb to fly around.
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
Are you referring to throwing a standard F2F on the heater, then a male end with a basket screen in to pack a basket instead of the standard bowls?
I haven't tried anything other than the stock setup.

Something like this, with the basket screen at the bottom of the male end pointed towards the heater?

No, but that certainly looks interesting @AJS . Is that a GRAV 18mm F to 18mm F?


I use the bowl that comes with, but not the flavor side. I like having the screen to keep herb from falling into the heater. I have a ss screen over the glass screen to keep things tidy, and out of the heater.
The EQ was my first vape, and I have a huge love for Ddave mods and adapters. Fortunately, everything also works with the XQ2, so I have a nice selection of options to play with.
The herb is meant to move in the bowl. The heat can then surround the herb particles. Rather than stir, I just hit the fan for a few seconds. You don't have to keep your herb packed or stationary to heat it in the XQ2. Arizer knows what it's doing, and didn't mess it up. The herb moving is intentional. This doesn't mean you have to do it that way if you prefer not to, just that it was designed that way for a reason, and it's no different than my convection oven having air circulate around food. In the XQ2 you just can use your breath to move the herb ( unless you use fan, of course).
 
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AJS

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No, but that certainly looks interesting @AJS . Is that a GRAV 18mm F to 18mm F?
Yep, that's exactly what it is! Misreading your description helped with the idea, so thank you lol!

I do the same process to convert my Herborizer from an Injection style bowl, to now being used with a Basket screen on a M2M, which is put into this same Grav F2F, so the herborizer can mate and use a basket screen instead.

So I've been giving that a try with the XQ2 as of last night. I throw on the F2F on the heater, load up the Basket Screen that's part of the Whip Male end, and throw that on the vape. So now all I'm packing is a basket screen, and it's closer to the heater.

The hits are insanely large, keeping up with the hardest hitters I have.

You don't have to keep your herb packed or stationary to heat it in the XQ2. Arizer knows what it's doing, and didn't mess it up.
They surprisingly do. I thought it would lead to airy hits, and it just does not. It's a great design and works as intended.
Just goes against what makes sense for me, which is a good thing, helps me to reevaluate what I thought was necessary in a vape.

I have a huge love for Ddave mods and adapters.
I have a bunch of experience with DDave and tested a a lot of his stuff for RBT vapes back in the day. He really went all out for the EQ though. I really should consider picking up one of his kits.

Those capped basket screens on his website look so convenient. I tried to create my own, as I hate the herb getting stuck in the basket on inhale.
 

ChronPain86

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Still exclusively using the XQ2 learning the ins and outs of it.

I've been using the bowl on the flavor side further from the heater, and having much better results with the bag this way.

Recently just did a sessions with a heaping 1/4 tsp of flower which was about .175 if my scale was correct.

First bag on Medium 380, only half filled. Flavor was actually great, each hit was the same, and the hits were thick as I didn't let the bag get diluted with more air towards the end of the bowl, only half filled.

Finished the bag, bumped up to 395, threw it back on for another half-bag using the same bowl, and still got decent neutral flavor and some nice thick hits.

Probably one of my best experiences yet.

I'm using the bag more than the whip...and I did not expect that.

Still just loving this thing. Very low maintenance as the airflow is traveling away from the bowl/heater (as I've mentioned).
I haven't had to stir at all.

Just threw away my ABV container as it was full, and starting a new one. Going to try to not stir at all, and see what my ABV looks like over time using my various methods on the XQ2. I believe it's going to be very consistent.
Thanks for your updates in this thread. I have an ArGo and an xq2 that I used once then it sat in the box. Going to convert my shed into a med shed so will likely bust out the xq2, never tried the balloon but will be coming into this thread and asking you questions or following what you have tried.

Appreciate your updates and fellow members who have input in this and the ArGo thread!
 
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Yep, that's exactly what it is! Misreading your description helped with the idea, so thank you lol!

I do the same process to convert my Herborizer from an Injection style bowl, to now being used with a Basket screen on a M2M, which is put into this same Grav F2F, so the herborizer can mate and use a basket screen instead.

So I've been giving that a try with the XQ2 as of last night. I throw on the F2F on the heater, load up the Basket Screen that's part of the Whip Male end, and throw that on the vape. So now all I'm packing is a basket screen, and it's closer to the heater.

The hits are insanely large, keeping up with the hardest hitters I have.


They surprisingly do. I thought it would lead to airy hits, and it just does not. It's a great design and works as intended.
Just goes against what makes sense for me, which is a good thing, helps me to reevaluate what I thought was necessary in a vape.


I have a bunch of experience with DDave and tested a a lot of his stuff for RBT vapes back in the day. He really went all out for the EQ though. I really should consider picking up one of his kits.

Those capped basket screens on his website look so convenient. I tried to create my own, as I hate the herb getting stuck in the basket on inhale.
You can't go wrong with anything from @DDave. He pays meticulous attention to detail, and there is a purpose for everything. Just got another order in the other day, and can't wait to see what he sends this time.
How do you keep your herb from falling on the heater with the GRAV 18mm F to 18th F?
 
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AJS

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You can't go wrong with anything from @DDave. He pays meticulous attention to detail, and there is a purpose for everything. Just got another order in the other day, and can't wait to see what he sends this time.
How do you keep your herb from falling on the heater with the GRAV 18mm F to 18th F?
I just tamp it down a bit, hold it so the herb is facing down, and give it some slight movement to make sure nothing is loosely falling out.
Slowly side it into the grav and the first draw will seat it all in place.
 

Madri-Gal

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I just tamp it down a bit, hold it so the herb is facing down, and give it some slight movement to make sure nothing is loosely falling out.
Slowly side it into the grav and the first draw will seat it all in place.
Is there any benefit to using the GRAV?
GRAV is one of my favorite places for adapters and small pieces.
 
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