Arizer Solo

Ben Katz

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I'm purchasing a solo tomorrow and I just had a couple of questions. What is all this I hear about battery problems? And is there anything else I need to know? Thank you
 
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vape4life

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There aren't any battery problems. Just the battery indicator isn't very accurate on the newer ones.
 
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Armerad

Dabbin'
I'm purchasing a solo tomorrow and I just had a couple of questions. What is all this I hear about battery problems? And is there anything else I need to know? Thank you
There have been issues with a few of the Solo's, where the battery lasts much shorter than it should and has other odd quirks/issues. Hopefully it doesn't happen with yours, but the battery is covered under the warranty so if it does happen there's nothing to worry about.
 
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mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
I agree with mmenzie. I would also be careful about getting the high efficiency gong, it's not for everyone. Most on here seem to like it but I wish I had gotten the regular gong instead. The clouds just aren't as thick no matter how slow I pull.

that is my same experience with my PVHES 4 hole GonG. i actually sent mine back to PV as they think it MAY be too loose and they want to measure it and send me a slightly larger one. I agree though... no matter the draw speed i used (slow and steady or hard and steady) i could not get the same "milking of the can" with my PVHES GonG that i could with the stock stem.

did you get the regular PVHES with the 4 small holes, or the turbo with the big hole and screen? I found with the turbo, I get thinner vapor, but with the 4 hole shorty bowl, I was getting really thick clouds but with less work on the draw. Just curious if you are having thin vapor on the 4 hole stem. I only have turbo gongs and one 4 hole shorty straight stem.

i have the 4 hole PVHES GonG and i got very thin vapor but if i use my stock 4 hole stem i get very thick vapor. i am waiting for my GonG to be returned to me for further testing.
 

hoptimum

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that is my same experience with my PVHES 4 hole GonG. i actually sent mine back to PV as they think it MAY be too loose and they want to measure it and send me a slightly larger one. I agree though... no matter the draw speed i used (slow and steady or hard and steady) i could not get the same "milking of the can" with my PVHES GonG that i could with the stock stem.



i have the 4 hole PVHES GonG and i got very thin vapor but if i use my stock 4 hole stem i get very thick vapor. i am waiting for my GonG to be returned to me for further testing.

Do you think the more restrictive air flow from the stock stems better concentrates the vapor while the less restrictive air flow from the PVHES allows more air and less concentrated vapor?
 

gosaints420

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hoptimum - exactley

that is my same experience with my PVHES 4 hole GonG. i actually sent mine back to PV as they think it MAY be too loose and they want to measure it and send me a slightly larger one. I agree though... no matter the draw speed i used (slow and steady or hard and steady) i could not get the same "milking of the can" with my PVHES GonG that i could with the stock stem.

This makes me wonder if I got the same problem mine is very loose. How did PV handel shipping charges you pay both ways or just one? Also did you get yours recently? Got mine a week ago.
 
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vape4life

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Makes sense, more airflow, thinner vapour. Pros and cons forsure, but I like nice thick dense vapour.

For those with the gong, is it easy to remove the joint from glass piece? Just trying to figure out whether I need the gong or just use the reg stem with my hydratube.
 
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gosaints420

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It sometimes gets stuck a little but it's not bad. I would still prefer the gong over stem if I had the standard one but $20 plus Canada shipping. Hard to say if it's worth all that.
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
True if inverted. I wanna get a glass piece just so I can use the solo inverted. With my HT, I find herb getting black/burnt nearly from flower falling out a little. Tastes horrible when it touches the SS.

Need to now find glass to use solo and cloud inverted.
you could cap your load with a SS screen, I use this method to keep herb out of my oven when using the solo upright, unless you are just looking for a good excuse to buy a piece ;)
 
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Makes sense, more airflow, thinner vapour. Pros and cons forsure, but I like nice thick dense vapour.

For those with the gong, is it easy to remove the joint from glass piece? Just trying to figure out whether I need the gong or just use the reg stem with my hydratube.
I have the regular GonG stem as the PVHES didn't come out yet when I had first purchased it. If I move it the right way I can get extreme vapor loading my tube. Although I do have the straight PVHES stem and I just use a bit of 7th floor tubing on the end of it and it now milks my tube with ease. No more having to suck so hard. So I kind of disagree with everyone above as IMHO I feel that you can get just as good of hits with the PVHES as to the regular ones because you just don't have to try as hard.
 
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vape4life

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With a regular non pvhes stem and my hydratube I never felt the draw restrictive at all. Even just pulling on the stems without any water tool the airflow is a lot better than the older ones. Either I lucked out with looser stems or they are changing their tolerances for the glass.

Solo with reg stem can milk up my glass way more than the cloud, and it's instant. I wonder if its due to more conduction.
 
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mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
hoptimum - exactley



This makes me wonder if I got the same problem mine is very loose. How did PV handel shipping charges you pay both ways or just one? Also did you get yours recently? Got mine a week ago.

i paid to ship it to them and it cost me just over $3.00. they did not ask me for any money so i am guessing they are sending it back to me on their dime
 
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smokum

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I found the PVHES was 'too much' airflow for my liking and gave me thin vapor, so all I did was double screen and they work like a charm now (for me).
 
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mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
I found the PVHES was 'too much' airflow for my liking and gave me thin vapor, so all I did was double screen and they work like a charm now (for me).

when i get mine back from PV, if i still have issues, i will try that
 
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smokum

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How does your double screen with pvhes compare to reg stem with single screen? Same?

I find it adds just the right amount of restriction to produce more vapor (heat retention ?). In comparison of airflow it is better than stock stems because I don't have to rock or lift the stem to produce well.

EDIT: Now if your talking about the Turbo, that's a whole different enchilada... I only like the Turbo with one screen on bottom, a bit of oil infused cotton, and a screen on the end IMHO.
 
I find it adds just the right amount of restriction to produce more vapor (heat retention ?). In comparison of airflow it is better than stock stems because I don't have to rock or lift the stem to produce well.

EDIT: Now if your talking about the Turbo, that's a whole different enchilada... I only like the Turbo with one screen on bottom, a bit of oil infused cotton, and a screen on the end IMHO.
Same here with me as well. I got almost as good of airflow with my reg GonG when rocking it in the right position. So the PVHES was an upgrade for me because now I didn't have to go through the hassle of rocking the stem at all.
 
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Red Indy

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A handful of off-topic posts were moved to an appropriate section. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/charas.8166/

:tup: Didn't know it existed! Great topic! Thanks.

I'm purchasing a solo tomorrow and I just had a couple of questions. What is all this I hear about battery problems? And is there anything else I need to know? Thank you

There is different info going around about the battery.
A fully charged battery should keep 1 to 2 hrs. according to Arizer site, but it can differ according to use.
On most reseller sites however it says that the battery lasts 3 to 4 hrs per charge.

One should always fully deplete the battery before charging the first time, be aware that the battery should never get totally empty (20%), recharge as soon as the red light starts flashing.

The battery eventually will have to be replaced after some 3 yrs.
There are some posts on here that show you how to do that and even how to make your own battery pack.

There is an option to safe on battery life by using the power adapter when not on the move.

Most problems with the battery seem not to be the battery itself but the charger.

But you can be sure that Arizer will help you as soon as any problems occur, you can contact them directly through their website and the response is always within a day.
Warranty on the battery is 1 yr. on the rest of the unit 2 yrs. and lifetime on the heating element.
 
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komrade_komura

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You do know the solo comes with a warranty don't you?
Yes. I know about the warranty but I like products that don't require the warranty to be used.

I don't care if they are friendly and fast, unless they come and take it out of my hand and put another one in its place, I am expected to accept a burden of inconvenience. It's was my hard earned money and that didn't break when the manufacturer went to use it...so I expect nothing less from what I exchanged it for. Anything less is just an excuse for less than a fair exchange.

Volcano, nary a problem. MFLB don't even know how that could break. Thermovape seems indestructible too. Heat and circuit board in close proximity...I should have known better.
 
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Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Yes. I know about the warranty but I like products that don't require the warranty to be used.

I don't care if they are friendly and fast, unless they come and take it out of my hand and put another one in its place, I am expected to accept a burden of inconvenience. It's was my hard earned money and that didn't break when the manufacturer went to use it...so I expect nothing less from what I exchanged it for. Anything less is just an excuse for less than a fair exchange.

Volcano, nary a problem. MFLB don't even know how that could break. Thermovape seems indestructible too. Heat and circuit board in close proximity...I should have known better.
Your position is unreasonable. (IMO)

Shit happens, that's reality. There is a mechanism (warranty) whereby if shit happens to you, it can be remedied.

It's funny you mention the MFLB, one of the things almost everyone praises is the lifetime warranty that they provide...


IMO, your position of [it should just work straight away and warranty is less than fair exchange] is incorrect, unrealistic, and immature.

You do realise that they have costs associated with warranty replacements?
It's not like they make more money off you by selling you a broken one, they make less...
 

komrade_komura

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I hold any company that takes my money to a high standard. The only time I would consider it a fair exchange would be to receive a full refund upon return of the defective unit. But even then I have to absorb the cost of the postage, my time to send it back, to package it for return...all which will be free of charge...warranty sounds like slavery to me. For what? Simply to get that which i have ALREADY paid for.

I don't remember where it is expected that I do ANYTHING for correcting something which I did not cause. But we have been programmed to accept this and think it is fair and reasonable. It is not. Take it out of my hand and put another one in my hand....that is the fair option...or take it out of my hand and put the money back in my hand...that would be fair also.

However, this is not just this company and this industry, it is epidemic. Sorry I sold you a defective product, here let me inconvenience you in order to fix it. And if I do it quickly and with a smile you will think I am a great company. BULLSH*T

MFLB has a lifetime warranty for a reason: simple design. I would need a pair of wire cutter to break it and then that would be a malicious act on my part and intentionally fraudulent towards them.

But until companies are required to publicly report their warranty statistics, it will remain Caveat Emptor.
 
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Stu

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@komrade, I would hate to see you after a blown transmission on your new BMW in the middle of the desert. I'm guessing that you'll die of heat/thirst/exhaustion as you stand on the hood and scream to the heavens demanding that BMW airdrop a new car to you and nothing else is acceptable. Warranty Shmarranty, right?

:peace:
 
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