Arizer Solo

olivianewtonjohn

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Defective battery?

If I vape at say level 4 or 5 it works fine. If I leave the vape sitting at 7 sitting, it stays on. But after heating+vaping level 4, 5, then 7 it will shut off. It will shut off and the blue idle light will flash. It is a many years old, it was sitting around the past month or so because it would heat. I reset it and charged it, and now I'm trying to diagnose it lol. I just didn't want to buy a battery incase it's just defective
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Defective battery?

If I vape at say level 4 or 5 it works fine. If I leave the vape sitting at 7 sitting, it stays on. But after heating+vaping level 4, 5, then 7 it will shut off. It will shut off and the blue idle light will flash. It is a many years old, it was sitting around the past month or so because it would heat. I reset it and charged it, and now I'm trying to diagnose it lol. I just didn't want to buy a battery incase it's just defective
I have spare batteries for my SOLO’s .
About every 2 year’s I change the battery pack.
3 years for some of them?
My MAKITA cordless are 30+ year’s old.
The SOLO is like that being well built!
 
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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Defective battery?

If I vape at say level 4 or 5 it works fine. If I leave the vape sitting at 7 sitting, it stays on. But after heating+vaping level 4, 5, then 7 it will shut off. It will shut off and the blue idle light will flash. It is a many years old, it was sitting around the past month or so because it would heat. I reset it and charged it, and now I'm trying to diagnose it lol. I just didn't want to buy a battery incase it's just defective

Have you been using it plugged in? The Solo can be used on the charger but it can stress the battery if done too much so I don't use it plugged in. A friend and I bought ours at the same time. He had a habit of using it plugged in and his battery got so weak he had to send it in. Mine is going on over 5 years without a hitch.

I bought a second Solo a couple years back and I could tell early on that the battery wasn't working as well as my older Solo. It got worse and worse till I wasn't getting near the time/dependability I should have. Arizer support wasn't any help and I was thankful I got it from POTV because Arizer wouldn't replace it but POTV did. Arizer wouldn't replace it because some battery degradation is expected but we differed on what was normal. The replacement was so much better and has been performing well for several years.

If you're going the replacement route you may want to track the total time you get per full charge so you can report it and see if it meets the guideline for replacement.

EDIT: I took a look at the warranty "The Arizer Solo carries a lifetime warranty on the heating element, a limited 2-Year warranty covering defects in materials or workmanship, and a limited 1-Year warranty covering the battery." - Looks like it's too late for a return if it's the battery.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Defective battery?

If I vape at say level 4 or 5 it works fine. If I leave the vape sitting at 7 sitting, it stays on. But after heating+vaping level 4, 5, then 7 it will shut off. It will shut off and the blue idle light will flash.

Anything is possible, but in this case I doubt it (but that doesn't mean I wouldn't swap in a known good battery pack which I already had).

There's a thermal cut out ('fuse' or more correctly self resetting circuit breaker) in the battery pack, but it's 70C as I recall and would cut all power. A really weak 18650 in the pack might be it?

How was the charge life before it went South? Did you get say 6 or more sessions per charge?

Sorry to be vague, hard to diagnose from here.

You might consider a new Solo I, rather than a replacement pack. It's not that much more and is sure to get you vaping again? And you could try swapping that pack.......

OF

Edit: After a bit of consideration, I think there's an easy test that might confirm/deny the battery pack. Fully charge it, so it 'reads' full on the battery test function on power up (all lights). Then get it to crash out heating a couple of times then quickly check battery charge again. It should still be 'full' (all lights or all but one lit), if it reads low the battery pack is highly suspect.......

Regards,

OF
 
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olivianewtonjohn

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@His_Highness @OF @ataxian

Basically this solo was my friends. He owned it alittle after cannabis became legal in Colorado so its 4-5 years old! I sold my solo when I bought my air (I like every vape in my arsenal to have a specific purpose, I thought they were similar but I did miss the solo flavor). The air is sadly dead (my fault). My friend didnt use the solo very often, he's what I would call an unsuccessful vaporizer convert.

Last night I was vaping some "industrial hemp" aka cannabis with low THC. And it was working fine for the first few sessions other than shutting off at 7. Then it started acting odd and eventually the blue idle light stayed on with no reaction to the temperature buttons. After some googling apparently this is common and the suggested solution is to take the heater apart clean it and put it back together. I did that and it works. The battery did probably 6 or so burn offs at level 7 so that seems pretty solid to me. I will count how many battery cycles I get next time I use it.

Fun to tinker and bring things back to life :cool:. Even my car was bought at the salvage auction and I rebuilt it, well worth it as the car was relatively new with only 8K miles.

EDIT: Only odd behavior is when I turn the unit on the idle and level 1 lights both come on (almost as if the unit thinks its already warmed to level 1). But hey if it works I will just use it until the wheels fall of LOL.

Have you been using it plugged in? The Solo can be used on the charger but it can stress the battery if done too much so I don't use it plugged in. A friend and I bought ours at the same time. He had a habit of using it plugged in and his battery got so weak he had to send it in. Mine is going on over 5 years without a hitch.

I dont believe the previous owner used it while plugged in often. I should have said its really old in my post so yeah not worried about the warranty but very cool to know yours is going on 5 years. Is that on the original battery?

Edit: After a bit of consideration, I think there's an easy test that might confirm/deny the battery pack. Fully charge it, so it 'reads' full on the battery test function on power up (all lights). Then get it to crash out heating a couple of times then quickly check battery charge again. It should still be 'full' (all lights or all but one lit), if it reads low the battery pack is highly suspect.......

Regards,

OF

Since the crashing out seems to be fixed (for now). Probably best to use the device and count the number of sessions I get and report back? I think solo's should get ~7 10 min cycles
 
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OF

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Basically this solo was my friends. He owned it alittle after cannabis became legal in Colorado so its 4-5 years old! I sold my solo when I bought my air (I like every vape in my arsenal to have a specific purpose, I thought they were similar but I did miss the solo flavor).

If it's really that old, it's most likely an original (True PA) version that won't 'charge while using'? You might test for that. I don't have a new version handy (I prefer the True PA), so I don't recall what happens. The new ones either quit running to charge or quit charging to run.

If it's a older version, IMO that's well worth having.

Glad it's running again at any rate. Solo is just too good to have idle.

OF
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
If it's really that old, it's most likely an original (True PA) version that won't 'charge while using'? You might test for that. I don't have a new version handy (I prefer the True PA), so I don't recall what happens. The new ones either quit running to charge or quit charging to run.

If it's a older version, IMO that's well worth having.

Glad it's running again at any rate. Solo is just too good to have idle.

OF
I have white one I LOVE but it came that way?
My three SOLO’s are da so useful for most!
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
@His_Highness @OF @ataxian

I dont believe the previous owner used it while plugged in often. I should have said its really old in my post so yeah not worried about the warranty but very cool to know yours is going on 5 years. Is that on the original battery?

My first Solo is over 5 years old and the second one I got as a replacement is a little over a year. The older unit is still running like a youngster. Come to think of it....the older unit gets slightly better battery life than the newer unit and they have been treated equally. Also - the older version has always taken longer to fully charge so I believe the batteries in the newer version are a slightly lower capacity. I usually recharge them right after the session that brings them to 2 lights or lower and when I first got them I charged them all night long before first use. I know the recommendation after the first full charge when new is that you charge to 7 but not till full..... but I haven't experienced significant battery degradation by charging fully each time. By always fully charging I may get less charging cycles though. Time will tell.....
 

GoldenBud

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My first Solo is over 5 years old and the second one I got as a replacement is a little over a year. The older unit is still running like a youngster. Come to think of it....the older unit gets slightly better battery life than the newer unit and they have been treated equally. Also - the older version has always taken longer to fully charge so I believe the batteries in the newer version are a slightly lower capacity. I usually recharge them right after the session that brings them to 2 lights or lower and when I first got them I charged them all night long before first use. I know the recommendation after the first full charge when new is that you charge to 7 but not till full..... but I haven't experienced significant battery degradation by charging fully each time. By always fully charging I may get less charging cycles though. Time will tell.....
Yeah, not going to 100% charged battery is a good tip basically. When you store it, if at all, you store the solo at 40% battery?
 

OF

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Yeah, not going to 100% charged battery is a good tip basically. When you store it, if at all, you store the solo at 40% battery?

While 40% is probably fine, the general advice is to store in the 60 to 75% range. Where they should come stocked and shipped to you new. The factory has got the memo too.......

The key is not to go to full charge. Storage at full charge, especially at higher temperatures, can damage it just waiting to serve you.

Likewise, stopping charging 10% early (say when the seventh light is lit but the charge light is still flashing will DOUBLE the 'cycles' (recharge/discharge) in it's life. Not even a full session per charge? And lasts twice as long? No brainer IMO. If you catch it, fine. Every time you do you basically get a 'free recharge' added to the battery life? Say 600 not 300 cycles. Stop 20% early and it doubles again.....1200 cycles and still 6 or seven sessions per charge.

Good stuff on the topic here:
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Pay attention to the stuff around table 4.

Monday regards to all.

OF
 

olivianewtonjohn

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So my friends solo which I had attempted to resurrect is dead. Initially it was throwing an error and acting funky, I did a reset and it seemed to function fine. Later on my friend said it was still acting up, I did some research and people seemed to fix the "blue idle of death" (only blue idle lights up) by taking it apart down to the heater and putting it back together. I did that and I got a week of use but then it started throwing errors again. For future owners with that issue I think the problem is going to be similar to mine, there is either a short or a loose connection on the ceramic heater side. I on command could make the solo work or error just by moving the heater wires around. In bending them back and forth one of the wires came off the heater.

I was going to use this post to print a 3D baseplate (found some local printers in my area).

A moment of silence for the fallen SOLO :lol:

@RogueGuy your RWW stem worked well in the solo BTW

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Buzzbomb Almighty

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Buzzbomb Almighty,

olivianewtonjohn

Well-Known Member
Now you've got my attention! I have 3 Solos, and 2 of them have cracks in the bases. I just know that when I have to replace batteries (soon), I'm going to have trouble because the cracks radiate from the screw holes. Are you interested in getting some extras made and selling them?


You can use the files in here to have it made and shipped to you as there are services that do that.

Some services people recommend:
https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/amv7rq/3d_printing_services/

You can find the files in this guys signature:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-solo.3833/page-1566#post-1125435

If you want to get it locally you can search google for "reddit 3d printing CITY" and see if you have local printers that you can message. The guy I found was going to do it for a 6 pack of IPA's LOL, was pretty laid back but unfortunately solo died before I got to that stage.
 

hungten

New Member
Hi everybody. This is the first time I bought arizer. I'm really wondering if my solo arizer is fake?

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hungten,

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
The bottom of yours looks like the one mine from Arizer. . . I can't see the bowl/chamber well enough on your pictures.

Did you buy it new or used?
 
RUDE BOY,

hungten

New Member
The bottom of yours looks like the one mine from Arizer. . . I can't see the bowl/chamber well enough on your pictures.

Did you buy it new or used?
Thanks.i buy used from ebay. i look the bottom don't have RoHS and cerificate. Do you buy it direct from arizer?
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hungten,

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
My oldest that came direct from Arizer didn't have the ROHS info and the bowl is darker/ off color from years of use, my NLE has the ROHS stuff. So I can't tell if yours is fake from that.

What do the buttons and lights look like? if the up and down buttons are colored in black and not all silver it's surely a fake.
 
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RUDE BOY,

hungten

New Member
[QU ra = Vì vậy, tôi không thể biết nếu bạn là giả từ đó.

Các nút và đèn trông như thế nào? nếu các nút lên và xuống có màu đen và không phải toàn màu bạc thì đó chắc chắn là giả. [/ QUOTE]
Thanks. this is the button. i hope it's real
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