Arizer Solo

[blibool]

I love this review! Makes me so stoked to get mine! Pre-ordered from PuffItUp so I have more time to wait though

Man its amazing! It comes half charged so it only took an hour to round out the battery i turned it up to max for a full heat cycle waited it to cool and then wiped the bowl iwth iso. Also remember that the part of the glass stems that sit in the oven get hot as fuck haha so let those babies cool down. Seriously i have been smoking for a while and these highs are consistently amazing. really fucking solid. Friend who never get too high got absolutly ripped and only tasted tea haha i did it form the tube directly and it was tastey. Id love to hear how our sesh goes

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Man its amazing! It comes half charged so it only took an hour to round out the battery i turned it up to max for a full heat cycle waited it to cool and then wiped the bowl iwth iso. Also remember that the part of the glass stems that sit in the oven get hot as fuck haha so let those babies cool down. Seriously i have been smoking for a while and these highs are consistently amazing. really fucking solid. Friend who never get too high got absolutly ripped and only tasted tea haha i did it form the tube directly and it was tastey. Id love to hear how our sesh goes

Welcome! Glad your first few sessions went well, over time you'll find what you like best. I love going from finely-ground material to whole nug pieces torn right off a tree Flavors are exceptional thanks to the stainless steel heat sink and glass... I've burned myself a few times on the stems as well, not recently but I did get my hands/fingers a few times. When it turns off/you turn it off you can still get another nice pull or three from the stored heat in the heatsink... helps cool the material down as well if you decide to stop half-way through a session. What else... I guess start low and go up, start in the middle and do a session there, max it on the water tube, add some hash, bubble hash, or hash oil? Maybe a nice scoop of kief? Maybe just kief and hash? Go crazy, I can bet you if you filled up the stem with some nice hash you wouldn't be able to finish vaping it in one attempt

 

[OF]

Filled it with orange bellini tea and its fucking amazing. I highly recommend it. Thank you all so much for your wonderful advice. I have read most of the posts here and on other forums on FC. OF you are a monster with those replies.

Hey, thanks for the good word. Glad you broke the code and got on board. Very glad to have had a part in that with useful and timely info. Thanks too for that mention.

Welcome to the forum, gotta love a guy that calls 'em like he sees 'em. Hoping to read more from you, best regards.

I love this review! Makes me so stoked to get mine! Pre-ordered from PuffItUp so I have more time to wait though

Yup, our new found bud doesn't leave much room for guessing how he feels. I've ordered a bunch of stuff from PV (including a couple Solos) and have always been impressed with their speed and service, however my latest buy (new model to test) was my second from PIU (maybe 3rd, I've made a few 'straw buys' for friends and friends of friends) and I swear it got here in just under 24 hours!!!! Truly amazing. They're only a hundred miles or so from me, but no matter how you cut it, that's fast.

Randy's good folk, he'll get it in your hands real soon I bet. I'm sure you'll soon be enjoying yours and it'll be basically impossible to get it away from you.......

Remember, for maximum battery lifetime, charge the daylights out of it first thing. Right out of the box, say 4 hours after the charge light goes solid (overnight would be better), tough but it's a one time only deal. After that run it down to when the last 'battery light' doesn't show then do at most one more session before charging again (don't run it until it shows the red charge light or ever to lock out) then stop the charge when the number 7 LED lights but it's still charging when you can. Catching it before the charge 'tops up' will double, triple or even more your service life......IMO a solid trade off for a session or two per charge?

A thousand or more 6 session recharge cycles beats 300 'full charge' ones at 8 sessions per I think. Still 2400 sessions (8 times 300) is still mighty fine.....but 6 to 9000 would be more better......

I can (and have) easily rebuilt batteries, but taking the extra effort to protect my Solo buddy seems to be the right thing to do. After all, it gives so much back?

OF

 

[thejonny2014]

What alternate stems can you buy, not made out of glass, and preferably inexpensive? I don't want to worry about breaking stems when on the go! And I can't be carrying around a case lol. Links are apprecaited

 

[al bundy]

http://www.edstnt.com/index_files/woodarizersolovaporstems.htm

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

What alternate stems can you buy, not made out of glass, and preferably inexpensive? I don't want to worry about breaking stems when on the go! And I can't be carrying around a case lol. Links are apprecaited

To carry your bud:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/jyarz-storage-containers.9346/

They have new large and small containers, too.

Like @al bundy said, Ed makes wooden stems for a few vaporizers. His thread's here, lately he's been doing turquoise inlays on his stems

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/eds-tnt-wooden-vapor-tubes-vapor-stems.3342/

 

[HomeFree]

Has anyone ever used one of Ed's WonG stems for dual purpose, water and dry? To me that seems like it would be the way to go for something that's not really breakable and would also work in place of a GonG, which seem to be very difficult to get.

The WonGs came out almost right after I got my granadillo stem, otherwise that might have killed two birds with one stone. Maybe someone has tried a WonG dry on the go. Maybe it would be too hot, but maybe not, because they are wood.

I'm gonna have to go mosey on over to Ed's thread to see how the performance is with one of his WonGs vs PV GonG.

But maybe that is a viable option and would also save money and support one of our member's hobbies.

FC rocks!

 

[Caligula]

Lots of members have had success using the@Ed's TnT wongs with water tools as well as dry.

 

[Vapour Clown]

@HomeFree, not yet, but will in a couple of weeks. I have the same stem that you have though and it works perfectly fine.
E.G

My Solo arrived today! So far I've had two sessions through my hand bubbler.

It's really hard to type right now

It was even harder to take a crappy photo and upload it here

Sorry about my grubby paw.

 

[Ed's TnT]

@HomeFree Hello, I am not sure how well my wongs would work for direct draw use, they are designed for use with a WT. You may wanna ask around if anyone has used it dry, I myself have not. If you decide to pick one up I will make sure you get a nice one!

@Caligula Thanks for spreading the word bro!

 

[ou812?]

So,im looking into buying some glass,saw the f bomb combo on PV for $130.00 and am seriously considering it.But....that's more than I paid for my Solo.I searched it here,read the comparison thread but came to no conclusive decision.What im asking is if any of you Ladies and Gentlemen currently use the f bomb please chime in and let me (and everyone else)know your opinions on it.Thanks.BOB

Fuck F-BOMB go with this works as good as my PNWT if not better and cost only a 1/4 of what I paid for it as well. If you go over to CHEAP HIGH QUALITY BUBBLER thread, there you find a ton of import rigs being evaluated and reviewed by FC member's. I wish I had seen this before I spent the 80 on the original,which isnt built as well as the knock off and actually is the inferior piece especially for the price one pays for the original. F-bomb my bud has and loves his new K.O. China version more. YMMV

 

[exit]

may have figured out the mystery of overcharging with my car charger.... i think my car is forcing 13-14v but possibly at 2A or greater into the solo unless the solo has a way to say "no only taking 1A thank you" but i can't say yet how my car battery works. not a car person.

@OF or anyone else who knows, what size tabs are necessary if i'm going to get a battery store to weld them on so i can build a battery pack. i called them and they asked what size i needed, but i had no idea. should i just bring in stock pack with the wrapping removed or do you guys know what size works for this?

http://www.batteryspace.com/pcmwith...i-ionbatterypack20amplimitpcm-l02s20-265.aspx (is this super overkill??? i kinda think so, haha if it would even fit)

EDIT!!!! wait... why can't I just use this... it's like a centizen pack already made but w/o the plug!

http://www.batteryspace.com/Ultra-H...attery-7.4V-2800mah-20.72-Wh-battery-pac.aspx

the only part that concerns me is "To reach max capacity of 2800mAh, you MUST charge the battery to 8.7V (4.35V/Cell). " but it should work anyway. and that the battery used in that pack is an ICR not an IMR but i am not sure if that's a dealbreaker.

i am pretty positive that pack uses these cells.
http://www.batteryspace.com/ultra-h...ah-10-36wh---lg-icr18650c2-un38-3-passed.aspx
not the 3200mah pannies i would use myself but if the work is all done for $40 + shipping, hmm... about $12 under a centizen battery but 2800mah not 3400 and got to attach a plug on the end anyway.

is this the plug the solo battery uses...?
http://www.batteryspace.com/connectoradaptor2pcsbecmaleconnectors6long22awg.aspx

 

[Ano]

Has anyone ever used one of Ed's WonG stems for dual purpose, water and dry?

The WonGs came out almost right after I got my granadillo stem, otherwise that might have killed two birds with one stone.

I'm assuming you got a 4" stem. While it might not be very practical, your stem should be 14mm on the mouthpiece end, and should fit a standard 14mm joint.

As for using @Ed's TnT WonG for dual purpose, I don't own a 2" WonG, but I have had great success in using the 3" stem I got for both dry and water use.
For dual purpose, I think the 3" length is great, not being too short to use it dry while not being too tall for it to be too bulky to use as a WonG.

 

[Ed's TnT]

@Ano You got a 3" wong, it can be used both ways. You are right all my 4" straight stems have a tapered 14mm mouthpiece and can be used with a WT. Not to long ago I made more of the 2" wongs some like them for a more secure fit with a WT without the extra length. Some of my customers have a recessed joint in their water pipes and need the extra inch to clear the top of it. A 3" wong is not a bad idea, it can be utilized either way.

 

[hd_rider]

Here is my silver Solo with Ed's 3-inch wong in place, alongside my regular stem (also from Ed). My WT uses an 18mm recessed female joint and Ed fabricated this wong with that in mind.

As already mentioned, Ed's wong is perfect for portability as you don't have to worry at all about breaking it. If you plan to use a WT with your Solo and you need portability, you simply cannot go wrong with one of Ed's stems or wongs.

 

[OF]

unless the solo has a way to say "no only taking 1A thank you" but i can't say yet how my car battery works. not a car person.

@OF or anyone else who knows, what size tabs are necessary if i'm going to get a battery store to weld them on so i can build a battery pack. i called them and they asked what size i needed, but i had no idea. should i just bring in stock pack with the wrapping removed or do you guys know what size works for this?

http://www.batteryspace.com/pcmwith...i-ionbatterypack20amplimitpcm-l02s20-265.aspx (is this super overkill??? i kinda think so, haha if it would even fit)

http://www.batteryspace.com/Ultra-H...attery-7.4V-2800mah-20.72-Wh-battery-pac.aspx

the only part that concerns me is "To reach max capacity of 2800mAh, you MUST charge the battery to 8.7V (4.35V/Cell). " but it should work anyway. and that the battery used in that pack is an ICR not an IMR but i am not sure if that's a dealbreaker.

is this the plug the solo battery uses...?
http://www.batteryspace.com/connectoradaptor2pcsbecmaleconnectors6long22awg.aspx

Yes, that's how electricity works. Ohm's law fixes the current based on voltage and resistance. A 60 Watt light bulb only uses 60 Watts (about half an Amp) in exactly the same lamp that the 100 Watt bulb uses closer to an Amp. I charge my Solos from the same 12 Volt 8 Amp supply that runs a bunch of other stuff too. A Solo actually pulls about .85 Amps charging an exhausted battery. My tests showed flat current draw (same charging) from 10.1 to 15 Volts, the Solo charge circuit simply adjusts.

I've tried two pre made packs, both of them 'too tall' to fit. The PCB and wiring has to be done on the sides, not the ends, and care taken with how much insulation is added to the ends. Straps are sized by maximum expected current (like extension cords), just tell them it's under 4 Amps, they're used to R/C and other gear using far more.

All such batteries only make those attractive numbers 'charged to the max'........which kills them off much earlier than stopping shorter (and getting less capacity) does. But 'numbers sell' you know........ Likewise other battery chemistries have advantages (like very high current ability) we don't need in exchange for longer life which we do. In general, protected Li Ion batteries are used by 'the smart money' in laptops, cell phones, the Solo (and other vapes) for solid engineering reasons. I'm so guided and suggest that.

Yes, that looks like the connector, but the wrong sex! That's the end that goes on the Solo, not the battery. You want the male body with female pins. And be careful, the polarity of the pins is swapped in Solo Land (positive is on the other side), you can release the wire with the pin from the connectors and reverse them which is advised over just ignoring the color of the wires (like the electrons do).

OF

 

[CarolKing]

I have 4 of Eds mouthpieces and have been very happy with the craftsmanship and the intricate detail of his work. I have two for the Solo, the Granadillo and the Blackwood Wong. They work very well with the Solo and gives her a little style plus it has a nice flavor while vaporizing.

I would highly recommend getting at least one wood stem for the Solo. It will make your unit completely portable. I like using my black wood Wong as a mouthpiece as well using it with my 14mm water tool. You will notice the inlay of turquoise, this picture doesn't do it justice.
This is the Pinnacle Pro WT. You can buy the knock off way cheaper. This was $69. I do prefer the D020 bubbler. Just wanted to show the Eds Wong.

 

[thejonny2014]

The wood stems look really nice, but I cant justify paying a total of $50+ when I have to buy the clip removal tool just to clean the stem...

 

[New_World]

Remember, for maximum battery lifetime, charge the daylights out of it first thing. Right out of the box, say 4 hours after the charge light goes solid (overnight would be better), tough but it's a one time only deal. After that run it down to when the last 'battery light' doesn't show then do at most one more session before charging again (don't run it until it shows the red charge light or ever to lock out) then stop the charge when the number 7 LED lights but it's still charging when you can. Catching it before the charge 'tops up' will double, triple or even more your service life......IMO a solid trade off for a session or two per charge?

A thousand or more 6 session recharge cycles beats 300 'full charge' ones at 8 sessions per I think. Still 2400 sessions (8 times 300) is still mighty fine.....but 6 to 9000 would be more better......

I can (and have) easily rebuilt batteries, but taking the extra effort to protect my Solo buddy seems to be the right thing to do. After all, it gives so much back?

OF

The Solo uses a lithium ion battery.
I don't recommend letting a lithium ion battery get to low as that can damage the battery.
The only time I would do that is to make sure my battery meter was reading correctly.
Also charging it for a long time probably won't hurt it as its a protected cell but I wouldn't go overboard.

-------------Here's what I do to extend lithium-ion battery life.
-I try to keep lithium ions above 30%.
-Keep them out of the sun and the heat. (this is what causes a lot of damage)
-If you are going to store a lithium ion battery store it about 80%
(this is for lithium ions this does NOT apply to the batteries with the MF launch box)\
(keep in mind there are many different kinds of lithium ion and this is a general overview.)

Experience:
used to hang out on the candlepowerforums and own many of the 1st ecig mods and watched them struggle with the battery technology. I own many high output batteries mostly AW batts.

If you're interested in learning about batteries this is the site I used to read.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/sharing_battery_knowledge

 

[Chilled]

So out of necessity of needing a portable vape and have pretty much only vaped my volcano since Oct '13, I have starting to hate the total lack of portability and feel I need a solo!

Just brought on but have the following Q's:

- What weight bud do you put in each time?
- I will only use finely grinded weed, had much seccess with additional screens?

Will let you know how I get on when it gets here!

 

[Ano]

The wood stems look really nice, but I cant justify paying a total of $50+ when I have to buy the clip removal tool just to clean the stem...

You don't really need the tool to remove the clip.
Ed made them available only recently to make it easier for his customers to maintain their stems, but it is not mandatory and people have been cleaning their stems well before this tool was introduced.

Edit: If you want more information about how to remove the clip without the tool, check @Ed's TnT dedicated thread as this isn't really Solo related.


Edit 2:

- What weight bud do you put in each time?
- I will only use finely grinded weed, had much seccess with additional screens?

I use anywhere between .050 (small load) and .200, depending on my mood and on the grind consistency.
You can put a lot more finely ground material than you would using whole pieces of bud (or whole small buds for that matter).

I'm not sure what you are asking with your last question, but if you use finely ground weed, you will probably find additional fine screens to be a necessity.

 

[OF]

The Solo uses a lithium ion battery.

Also charging it for a long time probably won't hurt it as its a protected cell but I wouldn't go overboard.

Experience:
used to hang out on the candlepowerforums and own many of the 1st ecig mods and watched them struggle with the battery technology. I own many high output batteries mostly AW batts.

If you're interested in learning about batteries this is the site I used to read.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/sharing_battery_knowledge

Good thoughts, but I'd be careful at adopting the 'experts at CPF' advice. Their goals are much different than ours. AW IMRs are not interesting to us here. Laptop experience is closer to useful IMO.

Same as auto batteries are optimized over time for the use they see, 2200 mAh protected Li-ions seem state-of-the-art for us. If there were more appropriate choices out there I suggest Arizer, Vapor Blunt, Pinnicle, Dell, and all the rest would rush right there?

I'd also approach high voltage charging with caution. "Also charging it for a long time probably won't hurt it" is a relative thing? BU is an excellent source of information, but I suggest digging a bit deeper:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Notice the discussion around table 4. Limiting charging top voltage by .1 Volts per cell (.2 total in our case) doubles the cycle life. Dropping it the same (IMO) minor amount again, again doubles it. 20% (or less) sessions per charge but four times the number of charges? Sounds like a deal to me.....

Another data point: While consumer products tend to push the number up to 'get longer battery life' (and sell more replacements......) the Military insists on lower numbers (just under 4.0, 3.97 Volts?) knowing that they will have less run time per charge but avoid 'dead batteries' in the field. IMO this is worth considering. Again, consumer products are driven by 'the Suits'. Big numbers make sales, and replacement batteries (or even better, whole units) are 'money in the bank'. The Military has concerns closer to yours and mine here I think. I think most vape owners, once informed, would agree? Replacing battery packs sooner than necessary is dumb?

OF

 

[exit]

I'll measure what the battery dimensions on the site say vs. a real solo battery pack, but i'll likely end up going back to my original plan of just getting some tabs put on a battery i like and make myself a pack... the battery in my M107 is unreliable and my M102 can put out maybe 3 sessions on a charge.

I'm just having a hard time with the centizen packs only because they're $60, ship from canada so actually $70, and an indeterminate wait time on top of that. I'm not talking crap on the dude, i greatly respect his work but i am both impatient and not new to DIY

 

[Qatmaster]

Not sure if your looking at it after a few mins. of cool down? if its a cold unit and you turn it on, it should only be the blue light and from there you can raise temp setting. #1 light should not be illuminated I believe if unit is completely cold. others may chine in. Just checked both of mine older and newer both when 1st turned on show idle light only.

I have a Solo M1T..., and when it's cold, only the blue light comes on. If it's warm, the first light comes on as well as the blue light. fwiw.

 

[OF]

I'll measure what the battery dimensions on the site say vs. a real solo battery pack, but i'll likely end up going back to my original plan of just getting some tabs put on a battery i like and make myself a pack... the battery in my M107 is unreliable and my M102 can put out maybe 3 sessions on a charge.

I'm just having a hard time with the centizen packs only because they're $60, ship from canada so actually $70, and an indeterminate wait time on top of that. I'm not talking crap on the dude, i greatly respect his work but i am both impatient and not new to DIY

Since you have access to a shop that sells batteries and welds up packs, why not see how much they'd charge to replace the 2200 mAh cells with appropriate ones (using the same PCB, thermal switch and leads)?

I agree CZ is a stand up guy, a great resource for us. He offers an honest product at a reasonable price (IMO), giving the consumer another choice in the market. We have 'everything to gain and nothing to lose' in such cases?

I have a Solo M1T..., and when it's cold, only the blue light comes on. If it's warm, the first light comes on as well as the blue light. fwiw.

Yup, they all do this. The first LED is not 9 degrees less than the next, it's 112F (warm, not really hot to most). This is why it takes so long to light the second LED on heat up.

Perfectly normal.

OF