Arizer Solo 3

[RAMMSTEIN]

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I ordered this bong because I wanted it with a hose.
I currently only have a small ice bong but it doesn't stay put because of the weight.

 

[Dankvinci]

I think your logic is backwards here, fine grind has more surface area, and does better with the conduction hybrid here, which is a great way to get thicker vapor faster, although taste might suffer comparatively... I even use lower temps too and have no problem with clouds, try on demand mode?

Haha, that's a way to look at it... I just figured more air around each little piece of flower allows for full extraction.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Haha, that's a way to look at it... I just figured more air around each little piece of flower allows for full extraction.

That's actually more why you get better flavor there, but the extraction is typically not as deep, you do want the air to move through, so it's all balanced defending on the preference and setup of course either way

 

[chillAtGVC]

I contacted them as the left/right buttons were flakey when the unit was fully warmed up. They still worked just not as reliably as I think they should. All they said was that I should send it back and they will make it right.

They sent it back after testing saying that they could not reproduce the problem. Perhaps something shifted in shipping? I have not tried it again yet. They did include three free glass pieces which was nice. It is still quite usable so I am not too fussed by this.

 

[vpr85]

They sent it back after testing saying that they could not reproduce the problem. Perhaps something shifted in shipping? I have not tried it again yet. They did include three free glass pieces which was nice. It is still quite usable so I am not too fussed by this.

I've noticed the software has a few quirks where the buttons do not engage, for example when the display is dim, you have to press a button to re-engage the screen before you can press the buttons for any setting changes. or if the screen is showing an animation, like the startup of session mode where the round bars appear in a sequence, the buttons do not engage until the sequence on the display is finished. Maybe these quirks are causing you the problems youre experiencing and if you make sure it's ready to engage you'll avoid the issues you've had?

 

[chillAtGVC]

I've noticed the software has a few quirks where the buttons do not engage, for example when the display is dim, you have to press a button to re-engage the screen before you can press the buttons for any setting changes. or if the screen is showing an animation, like the startup of session mode where the round bars appear in a sequence, the buttons do not engage until the sequence on the display is finished. Maybe these quirks are causing you the problems youre experiencing and if you make sure it's ready to engage you'll avoid the issues you've had?

No, that was not the problem. The problem occureed when double clicking the left and right buttons to increase or reduce the temperature. And before someone asks, reducing the temperature before the unit reached the set temperature. For my usage patterns, I wish the unit reverted to the lowest temperature when it was turned on again. For some reason I have a hard time remembering to do this before I shut it off.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

No, that was not the problem. The problem occureed when double clicking the left and right buttons to increase or reduce the temperature. And before someone asks, reducing the temperature before the unit reached the set temperature. For my usage patterns, I wish the unit reverted to the lowest temperature when it was turned on again. For some reason I have a hard time remembering to do this before I shut it off.

This happens to me occasionally. I go to change preset and nothing happens.

I can’t tell if it’s grit that’s gotten under there shifting about or I’m just pressing it at an angle that doesn’t hit the actual button under the plastic.

If I make a conscious effort to press straight down on it perfectly I never have the issue, so I’m leaning towards the latter being the case more than the former.

 

[chillAtGVC]

@PrematureEvaporation that is what I thought at first. Arizer also suggested that as a possible cause. I've tried every which way of pressing and straight down fails too. Something shifting about in the switch seems the most likely. Second is the software detecting the double click. It rarely fails when single clicking (e.g. after using the round centre button to get to the level menu).

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

@PrematureEvaporation that is what I thought at first. Arizer also suggested that as a possible cause. I've tried every which way of pressing and straight down fails too. Something shifting about in the switch seems the most likely. Second is the software detecting the double click. It rarely fails when single clicking (e.g. after using the round centre button to get to the level menu).

That’s odd. I’d love to know what the cause of it is if you ever find out. As well built as these devices are I’ve always felt that the buttons felt a bit flimsy and sort of mushy to press. Definitely a weak point in an otherwise well built device

 

[Pukka]

IIRC there's a teardown of the 3 on youTube along with several other devices. I do miss the old PuffItUp teardown pictorials. It was interesting seeing the innards without disassembly.

 

[RAMMSTEIN]

I've had Solo 3 for 3 weeks now and can give a conclusion.
I'm still very happy with it.
Solo 3 will be particularly memorable for me because it helped me get away from joints.

I couldn't do that with S&B Crafty back then... I'm glad I sold it and got a Solo 3.

 

[hotmeals]

I haven't even tried anything other than level 3 because it usually vapes the small bowl to my liking in one heatup

Now that I mentioned this I've been trying level 4 for the past couple days, with a 20 second draw time. Gets that small bowl just a little more thoroughly vaped more consistently in a single heatup. I've been confident that it was fully vaped for me every time. I'm really glad on demand mode kicks so much ass even though I got the Solo expecting to mostly use session mode.

 

[jbg87]

I combusted while vaping for the first time ever, not sure what happened. Maybe my bud was a bit dry, but cold started level 2 on demand and first heat up and first hit with wpa/j hook it sparked fast, and smelled so bad. I use wpa and j hook on demand 2 everytime so I’m not sure what happend. Waiting for my hooks to dry hopefully it doesn’t do it again cause it stinks lol.

 

[eyevape]

I combusted while vaping for the first time ever, not sure what happened. Maybe my bud was a bit dry, but cold started level 2 on demand and first heat up and first hit with wpa/j hook it sparked fast, and smelled so bad. I use wpa and j hook on demand 2 everytime so I’m not sure what happend. Waiting for my hooks to dry hopefully it doesn’t do it again cause it stinks lol.

Happened to me twice, here’s from the first time. Go back one page, there’s the whole conversation.

Okay, I knew that the S3 is a quite powerful device, but wtf?

Fine grind, stem fully packed, compressing the herb for 2mm space. Started session mode at 220C, hitting it hard on my 40cm bong (sorry imperial folks). After a while of hitting I saw the vapor changing like I’m combusting af, but I didn’t believe it and kept on going. A second later the taste confirmed the observation.

I thought the herb has touched the oven due to decompression, but it hasn’t. This was simply too much power for maybe too dry material. I totally didn’t expect that to happen, in fact I didn’t consider the S3 to be capable to combust at all, at least without the oven touching the herb. Anyone else have experienced this?

https://imgur.com/a/V4yt4kg

I have been running mine at 220C too, never combusted without oven contact. I’ll be observing this, reaching out to the seller if this happens again. Good to know that I won’t be left alone in case this is an issue.


Usually I like to take the terps off at 180-200C before going to 220C for full extraction. The times when I started my session at 220C I used whole nugs. My theory about the dry, fine material is the same as yours. Let’s hope we’re right on that, as I don’t want to give away my S3 for one single day.

 

[pop22]

I think, after my experience with the S3, that the S3 line has issues with running way hotter than it is suppose to. In session mode and set to 390 F, my very first hit choked me like taking a huge bong rip of smoke ( which I can no longer do ). I removed the wpa and checked the material, it was black! Turned it down to 350F the next time I tried it ( days later ) and the avb was very dark but not quite burnt. after 4 hits.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

The S3 certainly does produce some very hot vapour that can be a real challenge sometimes. I wouldn’t say it’s too hot, and would instead say that the stems don’t cool enough. They’re very short and have no cooling elements. That was fine before, but this new heater is much more powerful and hot

Arizer gave the heater a generational upgrade with power to compete with the big boys, yet for some reason didn’t give the stems a generational upgrade to actually handle what this heater can put out. Really left a gap in the market that I hope @invertedisdead is still planning to fill

 

[invertedisdead]

Really left a gap in the market that I hope @invertedisdead is still planning to fill

Could make that happen for sure, I'm just concerned about the price point because there's a lot of low priced aftermarket stuff already available for the Solo line.

Other thing is I always work off pre orders to confirm demand, I'm not sure how many people would be willing to pre-order a cooling stem.

It would definitely be a fun project though, I like my S3, IMO it's one of the best portables out.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yeah I honestly don't go up to 390 in many powerful vapes, the low settings are too good and thorough on their own, depending on use and other variables... I learned how powerful 350 can be with Cloud Evo originally, Solo 3 seems to follow suit, despite being a hybrid portable... It is really nice that they included the WPA yes, but the straight stem, now even shorter than original, is pretty much useless, even the low temps aren't ideal with it really... Would be much better if they would include the old style bent stem, the curve does so much to help cool at least, usable upside down too

 

[eyevape]

I'm just concerned about the price point because there's a lot of low priced aftermarket stuff already available for the Solo line.

Yes, a lot of cheap stuff out there, but not many premium options. I’d be in the market for sure. Can you roughly estimate the price point?

 

[chillAtGVC]

I think, after my experience with the S3, that the S3 line has issues with running way hotter than it is suppose to. In session mode and set to 390 F, my very first hit choked me like taking a huge bong rip of smoke ( which I can no longer do ). I removed the wpa and checked the material, it was black! Turned it down to 350F the next time I tried it ( days later ) and the avb was very dark but not quite burnt. after 4 hits.

Based on material colour alone, mine seems to run a bit hotter than the Venty at the same displayed temperature. I have no idea if that is a valid comparison or if oven differences are the driver of this. I usually take both vapes up to 410F as I am senselessly greedy. The Solo will go another 10C above that and the material gets quite dark indeed if you keep hitting it.

When I got the Solo I wondered if the temperature control was accurate. I've been trying out the Angus Enhanced the last few days and temperature for temperature the vaped material is much closer in colour to each other while the Solo is darker. So I don't think it is unreasonable to speculate that something may be amiss in your unit.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

Yes, a lot of cheap stuff out there, but not many premium options. I’d be in the market for sure. Can you roughly estimate the price point?

Yep, a practically unbreakable stem with advanced cooling features and an improvement on the existing fixed screens is something well worth paying a premium for. There’s nothing really like that right now.

Hell, plenty of people on here can and do part with a lot of their money every time DV release something in a cool colour Let alone something that will drastically improve the user experience

 

[TigoleBitties]

Yep, a practically unbreakable stem with advanced cooling features and an improvement on the existing fixed screens is something well worth paying a premium for. There’s nothing really like that right now.

Hell, plenty of people on here can and do part with a lot of their money every time DV release something in a cool colour Let alone something that will drastically improve the user experience

I'd love a high-flow XL WPA in zirconia and also a 14mm u-bend hook in zirconia with cooling features. They would be tasty and unbreakable and the 14mm hook could be more mass market than the Solo specific WPA. I don't know of any ceramic hooks out there but I figure I would've come across one by now. Could be an untapped market.

@invertedisdead, it's nice that you own and use the Solo since you can use your own judgement to tell how well the designs taste and function. What might you personally want to see in this space as a Solo enthusiast?

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

I'd love a high-flow XL WPA in zirconia and also a 14mm u-bend hook in zirconia with cooling features. They would be tasty and unbreakable and the 14mm hook could be more mass market than the Solo specific WPA. I don't know of any ceramic hooks out there but I figure I would've come across one by now. Could be an untapped market.

@invertedisdead, it's nice that you own and use the Solo since you can use your own judgement to tell how well the designs taste and function. What might you personally want to see in this space as a Solo enthusiast?

A 14mm hook in Zirconia would be brilliant, that would definitely be useful for all sorts of vapes.

I’m actually thinking of picking up the Tornado and running it on a hook, but I worry about keeping that setup in a bag without breakage. A Zirconia one would fix that.

If you want another idea Inverted, you could get some Tornado to 8mm adapters out in SS and that would certainly get buyers. I was thinking the other day what a relatively simple part that would be now that they’ve dropped the condenser and airflow adjustment at the connector end

 

[AGBeer]

I started out way back in the day with the Solo V1, I currently rock/(rediscovered) the V2, and tomorrow my V3 will be delivered

In all honesty, the biggest change I am looking forward to is the USB-C charging. Sure some of the other bells and learning curve whistles will be cool, but the basic functionality of this vape will remain the same Im sure.

 

[vpr85]

I started out way back in the day with the Solo V1, I currently rock/(rediscovered) the V2, and tomorrow my V3 will be delivered

In all honesty, the biggest change I am looking forward to is the USB-C charging. Sure some of the other bells and learning curve whistles will be cool, but the basic functionality of this vape will remain the same Im sure.

same, my first vape was an OG vtower, first portable was OG solo. be forewarned, the USB-C is pretty good but not completely universal. works with most of my usb-c chargers but not my apple fast chargers