Are you not concerned about the battery in the MFLB?
Well, I hope you can find comfort in some choice, Vicki. All the info, has been overwhelming. I always hated OSHA and Hazmat. Its like a bad dream, that never ends. When employers find out you have any experience with it, you always get tasked with the job, regardless if its in your job description or not.
However, this thread has been fascinating also. I was unaware of how many device makers we have/had. Granted I haven't investigated a whole lot of vapes in the forum, because I'm not shopping (already made up my mind). But, I'm interested in a couple more. I've always dug that little Bud Toaster HD, is holding up in his avatar... but until he posted here, I hadn't bothered to follow up on it. Plus, its a bloody entertaining thread. Now, I'm going to have to give those plans a try some day. Awesome watching the evolution of ideas to.
I can sterilize any of my TV products quickly with ISO or a boil. I have already spoken about biological concerns with wood. Even the Cloud which has electronics, I trust way more than any wood device with my health. Wood is a biological sponge trap, imo, but everyone's journey will be their own.I REALLY want anyone to tell me why their electronic vapes are safer than the underdog. Please someone.
I can sterilize any of my TV products. I have already spoken about biological concerns with wood. Even the Cloud which has electronics, I trust way more than any wood device with my health. Wood is a biological sponge trap, imo.
No, why would I? I make sure my batteries are in perfect shape, or I wouldn't use them. Honestly, though, I rarely even use the batteries anymore. I mostly use the PA and car charger. I save the batteries for other
Your batteries are not in perfect shape if you are using them in the MFLB, because the wrapper that the manufacturer applied has been peeled off. I'm not saying you SHOULD worry, just pointing out yet another health concern that might be important to someone.
How about particles, flakes, fibers, etc? If they did exist in the lower chamber how would we get them to the top chamber and then inhaled, through the load, by the human?
i think im missing something here, and sorry this is off-topic so if i get a warning i can understand but...
1) Dave supplied as much information as he could about his design and materials as he could.
2) If some people do not feel that the Underdog vape is 'safe', then avoid buying/using it. Those who feel that it is 'safe', go ahead and use one and enjoy yourself.
the community now has the information that it needs so that you can make YOUR OWN decision.
Vicki, respectfully, that article is sophomoric in its depth. Talk to my next door neighbor, he will be taking anti-fungals for over a year after he gets off the yellow, cheeze wiz IV he has to take at home every day. Cutting boards and inhalation dangers are quite different my dear.
Because a piece of wood never rotted before?
You are making your choices on your own acceptable risk, t dub is doing the same.
Another double standard is singling out log vapes made by independent artisans as needing debate and discussion about materials used. Where is this same discussion about the Extreme Q where the airpath travels over an exposed circuit board? Why hasn't Arizer been called out on ever material used on every component on the exposed-to-the-airpath circuit board? Wait, they would never answer or participate in that type of discussion. What about all the flame powered vapes where butane and potential butane combustion impurities being inhaled? What about using heat guns when Steinel has stated the air from their guns is not meant to be inhaled?
The third double standard, and mentioning it will probably get me banned or issued infractions, but I think it really needs to be brought up......In my perception this thread isn't really about materials but about a mod not being given a free vape from an independent artisan vape maker. FC is the primary market driver for many vape makers. A vape maker could have their business destroyed by an FC mod with some sort of grudge. Not cool in my book.
Because a piece of wood never rotted before?
You are making your choices on your own acceptable risk, t dub is doing the same.
If i had a design that was my own creation, i would be carefull not to reveal to much about the process and stick to materials only. There is such a thing as intelectual property and makers should have the choice to protect their designs. This is something that seems to be forgotten, which is compreensible given the delicate subject, but nonetheless, let's keep it in mind!
In my perception this thread isn't really about materials but about a mod not being given a free vape from an independent artisan vape maker.
If i had a design that was my own creation, i would be carefull not to reveal to much about the process and stick to materials only. There is such a thing as intelectual property and makers should have the choice to protect their designs.
There is never going to be a solution that satisfies you, so why are YOU here, other than to drag down the level of discourse?