TinyMight / TM 2

[Siebter]

Hi, my tinymoight is like nearly two years old. For the last 6 months or longer, even if the last time it had four haptic pulses and was charged recently, when I go to use it again a while later (like an hour or 3 later) it will do the three quick vibrations , cut out and then turn off. That's even with a brand new battery. So like what is the go here? It is surely an issue with the unit itself and not the batteries? I will only get like 3 or so bowls before I need to charge it again, on a full charge. It is better if I have lots of bowls in quick succession, but if I let it rest and not charge for a few hours, I will get like one bowl (usually about 7 or 8 puffs) and then it dies. And in those instances, it often gives 4 vibrations for that one time and then just completely dies at the start of the next bowl. Is it time to upgrade to a new base unit?

My first question would be: which cells are you using and where are they from?

 

[green68beetle]

I was in my driveway, parked. I didn’t take the pic while moving. And I partook when I arrived at the gym. It just shows how portable the TM is for me. Didn’t mean to cause a fuss about this. I’ll leave it at that.

Yeah, sorry. It's just I've literally spent the last 45 years trying to convince people that cannabis users are responsible, and that it should be legal, so seeing a vape in a car was a bit of a red flag. In Australia we have harsh laws around driving, zero THC in the system. It is a nightmare for medical users as THC can come up in a test the morning after, when you are no longer affected. Cheers.
Won't go off topic again, but needed to explain.

 

[Grass Yes]

508phineas on IG has some TM stem prototypes that I am testing, they are nice, and good vibes boro has very nice beaded stem options that people love (I am ordering a hook from him now!)

I was hitting my Vlad stem just this very moment at 4:20PT. Highly recommend. And I am also getting a hook from Mike. Twins, I guess

 

[andrew`124c41+]

My 2nd unit (bought 02.22) with new board was 2 month in my drawer with a fresh loaded battery and temp dial set to 1 (lock).

Today i wanted to take it outside with me when i noticed the battery was fully drained. I put the battery in my xtar charger and then i was shocked : 1.96 Volts. So my TM drained the battery in these 2 month very heavy. The battery is a molicel shipped with the unit.

Just for your attention. I'll check this again in a month. If this occurs again I will store the battery outside of the unit.

What you report is very strange. When the unit is off there should be no drain. Could it have been left on with the LED blinking..but even then that would not draw your battery down so low that it cannot be recharged.

The regular basket screen is for the other stems, that is what I load, inside WPA or the stock stem in front of the cooling unit and it's screen, filling the basket itself. I thought the narrow rimmed basket screens for the extra long stem were available in the store now as well? For a while it was not possible to get extras of them since they were made individually with each stem...

I have the 14 mm and multi WPAs which have a glass honeycomb. When I got the TM also got the funny looking cooling unit with internal spikes along with extra basket screens which seem to fall out easily and don't have a lot of loading volume. I think I will try some of those screens in the 80mm stem.

You may have overdone it, I really did not have to do burnoffs much with mine, certainly not many, and not at the highest setting either, no smell or taste... Hopefully all good and breaks in fine for you, you do not want to get ISO in the heater...

When I first purchased my unit I specifically asked him in an email about the need for burn off. He said it was already done and unnecessary.

 

[Buds Aldrin]

Hi, my tinymoight is like nearly two years old. For the last 6 months or longer, even if the last time it had four haptic pulses and was charged recently, when I go to use it again a while later (like an hour or 3 later) it will do the three quick vibrations , cut out and then turn off. That's even with a brand new battery. So like what is the go here? It is surely an issue with the unit itself and not the batteries? I will only get like 3 or so bowls before I need to charge it again, on a full charge. It is better if I have lots of bowls in quick succession, but if I let it rest and not charge for a few hours, I will get like one bowl (usually about 7 or 8 puffs) and then it dies. And in those instances, it often gives 4 vibrations for that one time and then just completely dies at the start of the next bowl. Is it time to upgrade to a new base unit?

Actually to edit my original post, I meant it does the 3 extremely quick buzzes in succession (I think?), then a long buzz, then 3 or 4 normal speed buzzes (depending on how much power is left maybe?), and switches off.

My first question would be: which cells are you using and where are they from?

Hi Siebster, thanks for getting back to me. The battery I last purchased and am currently using is a Sony US18650 VTC6 Li-Ion Lithium 3000mAh HIGH DRAIN 25A Rechargeable Battery (GENUINE), from website xerox.com.au
Obviously since my model was built 2 years ago I have long ago replaced the original battery. Every time I have been buying either a samsung or sony or murata (always a rechargeable 18650) and they will all do the same thing, that is why I suspect it is the base unit that is the problem. I heard Tinymight are continually upgrading the quality and features of their device so surely a brand new base would eliminate this problem. Please Siebster or anyone else, if you still think it is a battery issue can you point me to a website that delivers the exact same model of battery that TM uses? Or even one that is known to avoid this issue (I am assuming it is a well known issue, surely it cant be just me??). Also they must deliver internationally to Australia. I posted an edit to my original post. Describing the problem again, it is 1, 2 or 3 really quick pulses in quick succession, then 1 long buzz, then it cuts out, and does 3 or 4 reasonably quick pulses (it seems depending on how much power is left, 4 being when it has nearly full power) and then turns off. Exactly the same I think as when a normally functioning vape and battery turns itself off when it is too low on power. I used to be able to get 2 or 3 bowls even when it had 2 pulses when first switching on, in the first half year or so. Now it will do the switch off thing even if I have 3 pulses when turning it on (eg I can never even get to 2 pulse power remaining).

 

[Siebter]

@Buds Aldrin – I don't think this is an issue we have seen before; I'm pretty sure the cells you are using are legit and they are indeed recommended for the TM, so it's probably the unit itself having issues. I'm also using a 1st gen model (about 2½ years old) and it still works fine, so yours should too. Unless someone here has a better idea, I would contact the TM service about it.

Just out of curiosity: do you charge the cells in the device or externally?

 

[Bad Dog]

could always disassemble and go over the metal with a white eraser to remove any oxidation that might be affecting the conductivity of the unit

 

[andrew`124c41+]

@Buds Aldrin – I don't think this is an issue we have seen before; I'm pretty sure the cells you are using are legit and they are indeed recommended for the TM, so it's probably the unit itself having issues. I'm also using a 1st gen model (about 2½ years old) and it still works fine, so yours should too. Unless someone here has a better idea, I would contact the TM service about it.

Just out of curiosity: do you charge the cells in the device or externall

My unit was purchased this past December and I have had on occasion the exact same thing occur....with the original battery in the TM. I have no idea why it happened. I fixed it by removing the cell and putting it back. My unit is presently on its way back for repairs for another reason. I may mention it in an email.

 

[x003]

My TM battery it came with is a Samsung 35E and says on the battery not for vape in all caps. Is this bad? My other one came with a p26a

 

[Shit Snacks]

My TM battery it came with is a Samsung 35E and says on the battery not for vape in all caps. Is this bad? My other one came with a p26a

Don't know that battery but normal for them to write that on the cell to cover their ass

 

[Siebter]

My TM battery it came with is a Samsung 35E

Just checked the datasheet of that cell and don't think it has enough max discharge current to work in a Tinymight (13A vs. 20A and up for the cells recommended on the TM sites FAQ).

 

[andrew`124c41+]

My TM battery it came with is a Samsung 35E and says on the battery not for vape in all caps. Is this bad? My other one came with a p26a

They all say that. Over the past 10 years they went to IMR and INR chemistries creating high drain cells. I have been using them to drive handheld high powered lasers for a number of years. So, if they can handle that they can handle a heating element. They just don't like putting these cells on aircraft because of their potential for thermal runaway and potential to cause fires. I have never had any problems with any of these cells. My unit came I believe with this cell and is the one I am still using. I have used Samsung without a problem.

Molicel/NPE INR-18650-P26A 35A 2600mAh Flat Top 18650 Battery - Authorized Distributor

Authorized USA distributor for Molicel/NPE INR-18650-P26A - Cutting Edge "Power" Cell. Preliminary testing of the Moli P26A shows performance better than the VTC5A, which was the best high power 18650 battery before.

liionwholesale.com

 

[Adobewan]

Welcome to the party bud, get a spare cooling unit if you think you will be using it a lot and want to have a clean one ready, get spare glass stems short and/or long if you think you will need them, you could get the spare o-ring kit and spare glass sheath though I haven't needed to use mine at all, you can grab the extra long stem and or bubbler if those look useful to you? I recommend getting the multi WPA if you like the sound of the glass honeycomb screen for experience with chunkier grind even whole nugs, but a regular 18mm WPA would be more useful (you can use backwards RBT Splinter stems instead though which is what I do, you can buy 14 mm WPA stem for the TM from Alan@toasty-top.com and as far as hooks, Ed's TNT has the one from France, or you can look at the variety of offerings possible from OGB, or the Chinese version of them from Lumin88, the Rogue waxworks has some cheaper hooks modified with cooling and other elements too, he also has his own new TM cooling stem with a WPA tip, he also has acrylic mouthpiece WPA for any TM stem, the ditanium mouthpiece will also fit with the right o-ring, if you want to set up a ball cooling stem yourself, people use parts of the cooling unit for this a lot, and there are also a few places you can get titanium stems now... 508phineas on IG has some TM stem prototypes that I am testing, they are nice, and good vibes boro has very nice beaded stem options that people love too (I am ordering a hook from him now!)

Thanks again for the rundown @Shit Snacks
I ordered an additional long tube, cooling unit, 3in1 adapter, and o-ring pack, as well as the Grav Upline Taster.
Now, the wait...

 

[andrew`124c41+]

I just heard back from TM regarding the intermittent issue with the unit sitting off after 3 or 4 quick vibrations upon turning on. He asked me how often it happened... don't know for certain
...maybe 5 or 6 times.

He said he has not run into this particular problem in the past. With electronic circuit boards intermittent, difficult to diagnose intermittent problems are usually not worth the time to troubleshoot...the entire board is often replaced...seen this with expensive amateur radio equipment.

He will have my unit in a couple of days. I will let everyone know what he says about this.

 

[dzoinp]

TiStems back to stock today!
I'll ship a few out on Monday if anyone is interested, let me know!

Titanium Stems for Tinymight
short (55mm)45€ long (80mm) 60€ shipped from EU

 

[Zipford]

Anyone here exclusively use the TM natively that can speak to your experience?

I use the TM with the stock mouthpiece and cooling unit, and also with the GRAV upline taster. I prefer the GRAV, but the stock unit is fine. I use it on setting 6, which is not harsh in terms of vapor, but still gets my ABV fairly dark. I find it perfectly pleasant to use natively.

 

[Bettertomorrow227]

Was having some performance issues with my tinymight so decided to perform to disassemble it. Would anyone be able to help state which order these parts are placed back into the device?

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[dzoinp]

Was having some performance issues with my tinymight so decided to perform to disassemble it. Would anyone be able to help state which order these parts are placed back into the device?

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Clean the batt contacts and the batt cover...threads too
main screw need to be very tight

 

[Cheebsy]

@Bettertomorrow227 you seem to be missing an o ring in that picture. It goes between the glass sleeve (marked 2) and the top plate (marked 3).

 

[Vaporific]

@Bettertomorrow227 you seem to be missing an o ring in that picture. It goes between the glass sleeve (marked 2) and the top plate (marked 3).

Hard to tell if it’s part of #6 or not. @dzoinp - you rock (as always) with the numbers - well done! . TGIF to all.

EDIT: I’d also remove the battery when taking the TM completely apart, FYI.

EDIT 2: if the slender oring atop the glass cylinder is missing you’ll want to replace it. The TM will work without it (mine did for 2 months) but it really should be there and helps with the air flow!

 

[NKB]

Hey All,

Curious of your suggestions. I just received my TM new from Finland and it is missing the serial number. Do you all think it is worth writing to get this sorted out? My intention is to keep the vape for the long run, but I do feel having the serial number is very helpful if I ever wanted to sell it. It has the new board bc different colored lights flash when on level one (I believe this is how to tell).

Thanks

 

[gangababa]

@Bettertomorrow227 you seem to be missing an o ring in that picture. It goes between the glass sleeve (marked 2) and the top plate (marked 3).

I believe the O-ring is black and can be seen.

 

[checkyourlibido]

Hey All,

Curious of your suggestions. I just received my TM new from Finland and it is missing the serial number. Do you all think it is worth writing to get this sorted out? My intention is to keep the vape for the long run, but I do feel having the serial number is very helpful if I ever wanted to sell it. It has the new board bc different colored lights flash when on level one (I believe this is how to tell).

Thanks

Is it possible you rec'd old stock?

 

[NKB]

Is it possible you rec'd old stock?

I think it is very possible they recycled the bottom from another unit. If I was super anal, there is a small scratch on it (I am not super anal, haha). I sent them an email so we will see. It is a small bummer that I am sure will dissipate once I actually try the thing!

 

[Bad Dog]

I think the number is also on the board???? @Djsleepy