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Discussion in 'Medical Discussion' started by C No Ego, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    C'mon, let's work to get that % up. IMO, based on all available info, anecdotal and scientific, 100% of cancer patients would be wise/prudent/smart to try cannabis. The potential upside is almost infinite and the potential downside is so minor / insignificant as to almost be classified "minor nuisance".
     
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  2. mccringleberry

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    Im no medical expert, but it would seem to me that if cancer patients use cannabis to alleviate the pain from chemo/radiation, and if 0% of lifetime cannabis-only smokers get lung cancer because cannabis compounds negate the effects of the harmful substances produced by combusting, then it would make sense to vaporize cannabis to protect the lungs from the horrific air quality that northern california is experiencing at the moment. A big chunk of CA is on fire right now and its pretty unprecedented. 3500 structures destroyed, quarter million acres charred. Thats alot of particulate matter. The smoke swept into my area today and it got foggy. its fucking unreal to walk outside and smell and see smoke from wildfires that are 300 miles away. The winds are pushing that crap straight into the San Joaquin Valley. And u know what they say, if you can smell it, youre already screwed . Air quality level here is at "dont go outside". Vaping acts as an expectorant and the cannabis compounds must be doing something to safeguard cells. Call me crazy but I think vaping this plant is our little secret to helping our bodies deal with this garbage air during this difficult time..
     
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  3. psychonaut

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    @mccringleberry Stay safe out there, and I think you're 100% right. We should really consider ourselfs lucky we are taking the chance to medicate with cannabis. Our ECS is running a lot more effectively than those not brave enough to use. Though I still believe we have work to do once we discover our perfect strain, or some way can make our own sauce with the right levels of cannabanoids and terpenes.
     
  4. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    PROCESS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF CANNABIDIOL AND DELTA-9-TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL
    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2017/0008869.html
    https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017011210A1/en

    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2017/0008870.html

    to many long patents there but just found them? what?.. guess there goes the freedom of man and plant retained bio-actives from dirt to plant... it goes from not legal to legal and controlled... there are at least 50 cannabis patents or cannabinoid patents...
    just popping into this thread :) I'll post more medical related inquiries later Peace

    edit= tour the ECS.... a good internet connection is needed for the tour
    http://www.phytecs.com/tour-the-ecs/cannabinoid-signaling-at-the-synapse/
     
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  5. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Literature Review: "Substantial" Clinical Evidence Supports Medical Cannabis Efficacy
    Tuesday, 21 November 2017

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    Boston, MA: Substantial clinical trial data exists to support the efficacy of medical cannabis in the treatment of chronic pain conditions, pediatric epilepsy, and multiple sclerosis, according to a literature review published online ahead of print in the journal Polish Archives of Internal Medicine.

    Investigators from Harvard Medical School and New York Medical College reviewed randomized, placebo-controlled studies assessing the administration of medical cannabis in various patient populations.

    Authors identified "moderate to high" quality evidence in support of the efficacy of cannabis for chronic/neuropathic pain, spasticity associated with multiple sclerosis, and seizures. There exists "substantial evidence supporting the efficacy of medical cannabis pharmacotherapy" in the treatment of these disorders, researchers concluded. They identified "moderate" quality evidence in support of the efficacy of cannabis in the treatment of HIV/AIDS and gastrointestinal disorders.

    "As medical cannabis laws continue to be passed internationally, patient requests for medical cannabis will likely increase," they concluded. "Physicians must take the same steps with these patients as they would with prescribing any other medications to ensure that medical cannabis is recommended appropriately and as safely as possible. ... Cannabis is often used for recreational purposes, but this should not affect how physicians view data collected on its efficacy at treating certain medical conditions."

    For more information, contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director, at: paul@norml.org. Full text of the study, "Medical cannabis for the treatment of chronic pain and other disorders: misconceptions and facts," appears in the Polish Archives of Internal Medicine.
     
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  6. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Basically more studies are needed.

    Can Cannabinoids Be Used to Treat Cancer?
    Nov. 6, 2017 — When cannabinoids activate signaling pathways in cancer cells they can stimulate a cell death mechanism called apoptosis, unleashing a potent anti-tumor ... read more
     
  7. hd_rider

    hd_rider Well-Known Member

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    I'm doing all the studying I can with multiple study "sessions" daily. It's been six years since my cancer diagnosis and surgery and almost two years since my radiation treatments to try and kill off a recurrence. I just received my latest blood panel results and so far the cancer has not returned. Woo hoo! Time now for another study session....
     
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  8. C No Ego

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    Thanks for posting @CarolKing ... I've been wanting to get this thread active again just researching off board so much lately...
    all of my research has led to the fact that cancer is disorganized bio-active lipids and the endocannabinoid system ECS organizes all of our lipids simultaneously like one solid bio-active lipid sheath encompassing our physiology... so much is showing how our non lipid derived diets ( dead canned food ) are destroying our ability to organize and maintain proportional bio-active lipids ( homeostasis) ! people who are fortunate enough to find and consume cannabis plants can super charge that lipid organizational system ECS with those bio-active compounds created in cannabis... this plant is like a powerhouse of biological messaging presenting on the most fundamental part of us= Carbon...
    As much as I love cannabis I know that it alone cannot completely do what needs doing and a focus of diet and how energy moves through you will be a whole health approach...with all of the canna options ( hemp proteins, seed oils,@ harvest flower bioactives etc) I'd imagine if a village decided to use cannabis exclusively they could but would eventually develop allergies etc... just like with corn... this is just a guess I'm not sure if people do develop allergies to cannabis over time, interesting...but having as many options as possible eliminates allergic response...
    I just read a research study showing that an African village dating back to hunter gatherer days showed they eat mostly omega 3 fat! they have evolved a stable lipid medium from which to express their biological life and to optimize cellular fuel and cellular signalling via those lipids...
    our next step in evolution is to be able to test better what levels up PUFAs people maintain and to find out a way to provide better lipid fats to the populaces... decriminalizing cannabis would be a great start as it provides so much more than any ordinary plant as in food medicine shelter etc...
     
  9. howie105

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    MJ is whatever the individual wants to believe it to be, devil weed all the way to a gift from god. In my experience it can be be many things at the same time, so all our individual perceptions can be correct.
     
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  10. MinnBobber

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    When people's diets were omega 3 rich, their endocannabinoid systems at least got the proper building blocks to run at full capacity. Modern life and our food choices make it almost certain that very few have omega 3 rich diets. Thus, without the building blocks to produce our own endocannabinoids, almost everyone is ECS Deficient and that's why cannabis should be responsibly consumed by almost everyone. It's the supreme supplement to our ECS and the key to our health.

    It's exciting to learn more as research studies on the ECS and ECS deficiency are really key to it all. Studies, like out of Stanford Med, that showed a link between ECS Deficiency and Autism Spectrum Disorder where the mutant NL3 gene linked to autism ALSO results in decreased endocannabinoid production (ECS Deficiency). And what happens when autistic folks get cannabis supplements---remarkable improvements happen, life-changing improvements happen.

    The question about cannabis curing cancer is important but an equally important focus should be on cannabis preventing cancer (thru enhancing our ECS to fight all diseases before they become entrenched).
     
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  11. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    Corn is a hybrid which stems from the wild teosinthe plant. I believe these allergies also stem from this mutation. Excessive hybridization of the cannabis plant is a valid concern as far as medicinal and therapeutic values go IMO.

    Cancer is a cell mutated result of acidosis in the body created as a result of a backed up lymphatic system. With a bit of Oregano oil, distilled water, and some cold pressed juices cancer doesn't stand a chance. It's all chemistry, and as carbon based lifeforms we reside in base chemistry.

    Dead food (cooked, and devoid of enzymes) is killing us but not as much as dead water. The first stage of dis-ease is dehydration. With a body built of mostly water, cellular dehydration occurs from the fluoridated, chlorinated, acidic, unstructured, dead water the masses ingest daily.
     
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  12. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    decrim and let the people treat themselves right? so many people are awaking to it and know they need more yet are cut off at every turn from mainstream viewpoints and restrictive laws limjiting organic nature... there is without any doubt that a man restricted from his natural environment will fall dead quickly from Lack and disease
    structured water, implosion water= fascinating research there no doubt! Viktor Schauberger is the Man! I love all his concepts and knowledge...
    I'm not sure what we could turn cannabis into via hybridizing ... its so complex already I'm not sure we can add any more complexity... maybe mutant GMO splices like dumbing the plant down so it does not compete with big pharma... what a thought!?!
     
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  13. psychonaut

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    Having recently come down with what I would say is a common cold. Sore throat to start, running nose, then it moves to a cough and chest congestion. Vaping cannabis didnt seem like the best idea however, it seems to have a number of benefits that treat the symptoms. I noticed at first, my throat stung when I draw in the vapor, I assume this was from the antiseptic properties in the vapor reacting to the irritated throat tissue. By the time the session is over, the throat feels fine even after coughing. The nose also tends to stop running. The coughing during or after the session seems to clear up the lungs and get you breathing more freely.

    So overall, it might be overkill for the common cold, but I see it as a good medicine to treat the symptoms.
     
  14. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    research is finding THCV to be a very good anti-viral so could actually work on a cold...
     
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  15. Boston_Tech

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    it works great for a blood thinner to reduce blood clots , A blood pressure alternative , Pain , insomnia , Great for helping reduce side effects from having chemotherapy, Great for hypertension and diabetes along with cancer i am sure there are many things i am not thinking of.
     
  16. C No Ego

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    The list is extreme! looking at the molecules from cannabis we find how human friendly they are via their carbon chain structures that align with our most fundamental biology- cellular homeostasis... bio-active lipid building structures that give cells signalling profiles that maintain cells and people...
     
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  17. Boston_Tech

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    Not sure what part your confused or hung up on though if its cancer go look into RSO = rick simpson Oil or the many other studies there are plenty to back up everything i mentioned.
     
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  18. MinnBobber

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    FYI, C No Ego is agreeing with you, that the list of what cannabis helps is extreme/huge, that it helps to maintain cell health and people health.
     
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  19. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    I tend to talk in riddles it seems... I'm still coming up with terms to describe the process... Have you read this thread? Peace
     
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  20. C No Ego

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    OK= new info I've been asking for months has come to light...

    I've been deeply asking what makes cannabis medical and getting past everyone's fear ( including my own) to get at the truth...

    Truth is our endocannabinoid system ECS manages every biochemical signal in our bodies from the time we are formed into a physical entity until we are no more mass.

    We have estimated ( here it is) 15,000 biochemical cannabinoid signals per second happening in each of our cells. 15,000 cannabinoid receptors firing cannabinoids every second times 68 trillion

    We have 64 to 68 trillion cells all signalling 15, 000 signals per second!!!!!!

    I could post more on it but still taking in that one...

    68 trillion cells! cannabis creates phytocannabinoids that signal in the ECS- simple, period, end of discussion, but it's not... my discussion is just getting started
    oh, PPAR - TRPV1 are two voltage gated receptors that signal some of those signals... more later
     
  21. MaadVape

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    I have been looking for a post like this. This is very interesting. Im going to try and find an explanatory article to why Cannabis reacts like this.
     
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  22. MinnBobber

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    x2sextillian (just cuz).

    The ECS is the key to the "whole deal"......how and why cannabis does what it does . If you learn about the ECS, you then know why cannabis should be the first medicine for just about every disease (as the ECS really controls/manages/directs ALL the systems that help our own bodies PREVENT diseases and then help destroy the diseases if it progresses to that disease state).

    The ECS is the most amazing medical discovery in 20/40/100?? years, yet because "marijuana" is involved, the stigma and anti-cannabis legal barriers, bury the topic.
    Maybe we should have a thread specifically on the ECS ? I think it's absolutely the most fascinating subject there is today.

    If you understand the ECS, you know that it is also the key to preventing diseases as that's where it goes to the next level. Curing a disease is wonderful but preventing it, priceless.
    Daily microdose of cannabis to tune your ECS....
     
  23. Hippie Dickie

    Hippie Dickie The Herbal Cube Manufacturer

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    @MinnBobber - thank-you for confirming my personal bias. i also see cannabis as an immunotherapy enhancer.
     
  24. MinnBobber

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    :) Cannabis has to be the greatest health supplement in the world as the known benefits are gigantic (and growing every day) and concurrent with that huge upside, can you think of any substance with fewer negatives/less potential harm?
     
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  25. C No Ego

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    please make an ECS thread... I could post the 1000 or so tabs I have sitting right here LOL... could take days though.... would like to see what others are saying as well...

    But yeah... cannabis is two fold in that it is a " micro lipid" with bio-activity that can trigger trillions upon trillions of bio-chemical reactions via Phosphatidylcholine , Glutamte, and intracellualr calcium levels all of which maintain cellular homeostasis ...
     
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