Discontinued ThermoVape

[Foster]

I have to say, this this looks pretty sweet! Just from looking at it, it seems like the perfect combination of stealth (IMO, more stealthy and easier to put in pocket than MFLB) and rippage (guy said it hits harder than his N02). I am very very interested, but will probably wait on purchasing, because the screens worry me.

I think with a waterpipe attachment, and an added screen, this could be amazing.

 

[zmurder]

Do the car and wall charger plug directly into the unit or are they for the batteries?

I don't have mine yet but I can safely say that the car and wall adapters plug into the battery charger. NOT the unit itself.

 

[majorpeaches]

Well so far, my TV has been great. What I have noticed is that full batteries are very important for a full session. On a full charge however, I can get up to 10-13 hits, with the most cloudy hits being at about the 6th one. I noticed that drawing slower and longer worked the best. It has me quite vaked right now, I am so far quite impressed and it's feel it was worth the money.

 

[Canna Hound]

yo SF Giant,

It sounds like you're pleased so far, is that correct? I think I may need to order one of these; although I will need to find a way to attach it to a 14mm female joint like on my tubes.

For some reason I really want to be able to use this thru a small tube or bubbler? Any thoughts about dropping the mouthpiece directly into a slide bowl on a water pipe? Maybe a silicon O-ring?
Hope this vape serves you well since you took the gamble and dove in head first, strong work!

H

 

[Soulhunter]

Hmm, almost bought one. But when the shipping my way was 100$ i canseled.

Unless that was for overnight shipping to. Afghanistan, that is ridiculous! Please shoot us an email at info@thermovape.com and we will figure out reasonable shipping.

We use a integrated shipping package from UPS, obviously something is not working in the calculator. Let us get it right.

Hope to hear from you today.

Cheers!

TV

I had two options one express i think 113$ and overnight for 140$ Not to Afghanistan, hehe, but Norway.
I know international shipping can be a pain in the a.. But i have had lots of things sent to me from the States. Just as an example i paid 40$ shipping for two DBV, so then i think i am in my right calling it a rippoff. But I am not saying it is the thermo people who is rippi.g me off by no means ;-)

I just pulled the trigger on another vape, but i wil buy this vape next month i guess. I will contact u if shipping costs still only give me the two ekspensive options ;-)

Peace!

 

[SF Giant]

yo SF Giant,

It sounds like you're pleased so far, is that correct? I think I may need to order one of these; although I will need to find a way to attach it to a 14mm female joint like on my tubes.

For some reason I really want to be able to use this thru a small tube or bubbler? Any thoughts about dropping the mouthpiece directly into a slide bowl on a water pipe? Maybe a silicon O-ring?
Hope this vape serves you well since you took the gamble and dove in head first, strong work!

H

I am satisfied so far but the screen issue is nagging, i can see tiny pieces of herb starting to work their way down the holes on the heater core and i tried to cut some ss screens to fit last night but couldnt get them to stay put :/ a short piece of tubing and a gong adapter would be your best bet for water tools but an o ring on a slide out downstem would most likely work also

 

[ThermoVape]

Hey guys, great to hear from you that have received your ThermoVapes, you can imagine we are thrilled you are enjoying your device!

About the holes in the bowl and their size. I have a couple of thoughts...

First, the upside of the The ThermoVape being a convection vaporizer is that all the airflow is completely driven through the entire length of the heating core, it comes in below core and exits at the bowl. So you actually have a lot of airflow, and velocity of that airflow, pushing small particles in the opposite direction, i.e. away from the inside of the heating core.

Second. The ThermoVape is self cleaning, if you were concerned there were some small particles in the heater core, simply give the device a dry run, meaning, with an empty bowl, turn the device on and give it a 20 second cycle (this is a hot burn, you will NOT be inhaling, just holding the device on), any small particles in the core will be vaporized/incinerated.

In our beta testing this was never an issue. We had no problems with particles in the heating core. Although we do not recommend grinding the herb to a powder, a course grind seems to would extremely well.

Thank you all for your early support and feedback. We take all of your comments seriously and they spark a lot of discussion (and debate) here at ThermoVape. We are doing our very best to make the best portable convection vaporizer on the planet. Your help in that endeavor is much appreciated.

 

[VaporNinja]

sounds good!! I will order one tonight, or tomorrow!

 

[moodswing]

...the screen issue is nagging, i can see tiny pieces of herb starting to work their way down the holes on the heater core....

that's exactly what i was afraid of. were you able to detect if the particles were combusting and thus mixing smoke with your vapor?

 

[OF]

Hey guys, great to hear from you that have received your ThermoVapes, you can imagine we are thrilled you are enjoying your device!

About the holes in the bowl and their size. I have a couple of thoughts...

First, the upside of the The ThermoVape being a convection vaporizer is that all the airflow is completely driven through the entire length of the heating core, it comes in below core and exits at the bowl. So you actually have a lot of airflow, and velocity of that airflow, pushing small particles in the opposite direction, i.e. away from the inside of the heating core.

Although we do not recommend grinding the herb to a powder, a course grind seems to would extremely well.

I would assume "the opposite direction" you're pushing those little particles is INTO the patient? Perhaps not the best solution.

Likewise, I don't think it's realistic to depend on particle size in material. Even if you carefully screen it first. Breakdown continues to happen.

I'm sure most of us aren't bothered by reasonable levels of debris any more than normal pollen and other contamination. Some are, however, this is medicine for many.....not recreation. I doubt there's an issue for the average guy, but we're not all average.

OF

 

[OF]

that's exactly what i was afraid of. were you able to detect if the particles were combusting and thus mixing smoke with your vapor?

For myself, I'm not sure a little bit of combustion isn't better than sucking the debris into compromised lungs. Can't say for sure, mine are still OK, but some folks aren't that lucky. I would think the best option is to avoid it if possible, more so for a device like this with strong medical roots. Then again, what do I really know?

The key is to wait for objective user review I think. The waiting bit is the hard part, of course, exciting project.

OF

 

[ThermoVape]

We truly appreciate your concern. We want to make the device as safe as possible. Here is what we are working on currently:

In January we will offer an inline filter. This will be a porous medical device grade ceramic wafer. It will attach to the device between the mouthpiece and the top cap of the ThermoVape.

This ceramic filter will trap particulate <100 microns. It will be available as an additional item, we will keep the price as low as possible as we know this is for those that are need, we are building it for the medical user with sensitive/reactive airways.

The average person will likely have no need for this inline filter.

The Ceramic filter never wears out (it will get clogged with use, as all filters do) and can be easily cleaned. Made to never be replaced, it will last a lifetime.

We are actively working on this product, we will have it available as soon as possible.

This will be simple, effective, never need replacing, and affordable.

 

[THCMuscle]

I am really impressed with your professionalism this early on. I am simply waiting for a few comprehensive reviews to surface then I will make my purchase.

 

[VaporNinja]

I have the vapman, with similar top screen design, and I never had any issue. Maybe this can simply solved by cutting the herb with a pair of scissor instead of using a grinder. I have a 4 piece cosmic, the grind is always medium, never too fine. And also avoid drying your herb out too much may help too.

 

[OF]

We truly appreciate your concern. We want to make the device as safe as possible. Here is what we are working on currently:

In January we will offer an inline filter. This will be a porous medical device grade ceramic wafer. It will attach to the device between the mouthpiece and the top cap of the ThermoVape.

Thanks very much, nice to be taken seriously and acted on promptly. I agree, it's not for everyone and sure to be vastly better than combustion no matter what.

As many have said , there's ample reason to be very optimistic about this product. Be fun watching even if I don't end up with one (which would likely replace a couple of current favorites anyway?).

OF

 

[moodswing]

@tv
good to hear of your plans of the filter.

til then it looks like you can add a screen somewhere along the top cap assembly to minimize inhaling particulates.

the bowl is a different story as it doesn't look like a screen can be 'locked' into place. it looks like it's inevitable that particles will fall through the holes, and ultimately burn up inside the heater core. i wonder if this will produce an unwanted taste to my vaping experience.

so,.. would frequent, repeated cleaning of the bowl/core significantly reduce the life of the heater core?

btw... spelling error?

 

[darkrom]

So let me get this straight, the customers want a filter ... you mention a filter you'll be making as an optional add-on for us picky folks.... DAMN!

You guys are going to set the standard for how a portable electronic company should handle themselves! I'm as impressed as I can be without actually using the product haha.

 

[ThermoVape]

good to hear of your plans of the filter.

til then it looks like you can add a screen somewhere along the top cap assembly to minimize inhaling particulates.

the bowl is a different story as it doesn't look like a screen can be 'locked' into place. it looks like it's inevitable that particles will fall through the holes, and ultimately burn up inside the heater core. i wonder if this will produce an unwanted taste to my vaping experience.

so,.. would frequent, repeated cleaning of the bowl/core significantly reduce the life of the heater core?

btw... spelling error?
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2083/thermovapeusermanual.jpg

Thanks for catching the spelling error!

Frequent cleaning will not reduce the life of the bowl. Plus it dries itself out when you turn it on

 

[moodswing]

...Maybe this can simply solved by cutting the herb with a pair of scissor instead of using a grinder. I have a 4 piece cosmic, the grind is always medium, never too fine. And also avoid drying your herb out too much may help too.

wouldn't that go against the general vaporizing recommendation of 'the dryer the better' and the concept of the finer the grind, the more surface area exposed for more complete vaporization?

meaning to say, if i dont grind fine and use herbs that arent that dry, then i will not be getting the most out of my herbs??? (without revaping the avb in another unit)

 

[moodswing]

Thanks for catching the spelling error!

no worries. i thought you might want that particular error fixed
also pgs 27 & 28, 'Alpha' should be changed to 'ThermoVape'.

Frequent cleaning will not reduce the life of the bowl.

good news!

 

[VaporNinja]

What I meant was avoid grinding herb that are too dry. IMO, with a good convection vape, heat can penetrate through medium/large ground herb. If your herb is too powdery it may eventually clog up any vape's output screen.

 

[THCMuscle]

I'm with moodswing, I believe the finer the grind the better. I use as find a grind as my grinder can provide in all my vapes, and if a vape can't handle it I seek modification to that vape to be able to accommodate a fine grind, instead of grinding coarsely to suit the vape.


The aspects of the Thermovape that attract me the most are it's small size and ability to take it on the go as a singular device without needing to bring herb and load it, use stems, or batteries.


The mention of debris falling into the heater and combusting has me wondering. Tough I see what TV is talking about in that the air flow is constantly pulling against the direction herb would need to travel into the heater. I've seen this in practice with my RZ stems never leaving debris on the inner screen.

I installed a super fine screen in my Solo and I use absolutely powder herb in it and I have yet to see much of anything other than honey in the stem, where as my RZ with a coarse screen lets significant debris through. Fine screen and frequent cleaning FTW!

 

[ilovebOObs]

i think i'm sold on this vape, will order after my vacation. after my troubles with vaporfection, its nice seeing a company so up front about everything. and you guys sell stuff that you have available already, heheh

 

[t-dub]

I also am impressed with what I have seen here. I even went over to the e-cig forum and read about 20 pages over there with Nate (engineer) helping people with their Apex Vapor products. These guys are engaged, responsive, and look like they make a great product. I like the fact that they have experience with the e-cigs, makes me think there is some valuable experience here and not a brand new venture. I definitely want one of these but I am going to have to butcher my Cloud fund to get it.

t-dub

 

[mephisto]

Alright fellow vapers, the TV has hit the East Coast. I have not yet put it through its paces,
but out of the box it is built very well. Ingenious method for heat control. Easy to access herb
chamber. I will report back after a few test laps....

If its any consolation, I absolutely murdered my Cloud fund to obtain this vape!