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Thermovape Alpha Ultralite

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by jambandphan03, May 17, 2012.

  1. kushcabbage

    kushcabbage vapor nerd

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    Thanks OF! Only other question I have, is can I file notches in any angle, as long as they are adjacent (straight across), and what file would you recommend with the right size to make the air slits I need this for this to work? Don't suppose you have any pics handy? :tup: Thanks for your time, and again excuse me beating this adapter discussion with a stick.
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  2. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    No, shape of the slot doesn't matter. My first ones I did with the corner of an 8 inch flat file. Lately I've used needle files for square notches. I also cut a couple sets with a hacksaw. You need more cross sectional area than the two little holes above the treads on the cart, after that the holes control the flow.

    You can also probably use a nail file or a pen knife even, it's chrome brass.....real soft.

    Sorry, not a big enough deal for me to take my fifth photo of it.

    And not to worry, you're not the first....nor is your stick particularly impressive.

    OF
  3. GReYAReA

    GReYAReA Amid The Vapors...

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    Does anyone know if I can use the Omicron charger for the included IMR 10440 LiMn batteries? It says any Li-ion, but I was hoping for clarification on this type and model before I break something. The included WF-188 works excellent, but is a bit big for travel.


    Model
    HG-1206W battery charger
    Input
    AC100-240V/47-63HZ
    Compatible batteries
    ANY ** Ni-MH/Ni-Cd/Li-ion rechargeable batteries(Up To,Length: 71mm;Diameter: 19mm)
    Charging time
    2 to 4 hours
    Measurements
    Length: 111.5mm
    Height: 35mm
    Width: 40.5mm
    Net weight: 65gram
    Gross weight: 70gram
  4. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Generally not advised, the charging current is too high (by like twice).

    OF
  5. GReYAReA

    GReYAReA Amid The Vapors...

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    Thank you OF.

    Anyone know of a good travel size charger for these batteries?
  6. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome. No I don't but wish I did.....

    Good luck.

    OF
  7. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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  8. JoeKickass

    JoeKickass Well-Known Member

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    I recently bought this bad boy: http://www.volcanoecigs.com/xtar-multi-charger.html

    Good Review: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...uilt-Review-of-the-Xtar-WP2-II-Li-ion-Charger

    It has 500ma and 1,000ma max current settings but is closer to a true constant current/constant voltage charger than others in it's price range:
    [​IMG]

    It has good quality screw-in spacers so any size battery could fit, and thanks to the charge profile, no battery will be overcharged. Imr's will stay in max current mode longer since their low internal resistance can take it no problem, old batteries like the one used in picture above and tiny batteries will spend more time in the lower, down-sloping current mode.

    My charger terminates at 4.17-4.19 so it should make the batteries last a bit longer too :tup:
  9. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I also have the Xtar, it's great! I saw a single slot version for Xtar, if you are looking for a smaller travel size.
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  10. Sinclue

    Sinclue OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right

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    Where did you find that?
  11. Pipes

    Pipes The guy with the Afterthoughts Accessory Maker

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  12. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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  13. GReYAReA

    GReYAReA Amid The Vapors...

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    Thanks for the suggestions.. I picked up an Xtar single and will give it a try.
  14. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    You might want to be careful, while not as high (500 not 700 mA) the charging rate here is still higher than recommended for the 10440 batteries used in the Ultra. 300 is more what you're looking for.

    It will work, but at the expense of the batteries.

    OF
  15. Sinclue

    Sinclue OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right

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    The charging rate for the 10440's would be?

    And your considered opinion of the Xtar WP2-II charger mentioned above for our uses?

    Or do you still prefer the stock charger provided by TV?
  16. kato1234

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    I don't see a section for the Alpha Ultra so I am posting here. I got the Ultra/Dart because it seemed the right size and used a single battery. I didn't want to get into battery pairs. My question is the battery is the 14500 IMR LiNm 600 mah. So in power would this be similar to an an eGo 650 mah in power and capacity? Haven't really had a chance to use as I'm waiting on my oil to arrive I had a tiny container scrape of Budder that I tried and it seemed to work well but was so small difficult to tell.

    kato
  17. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    A good 'rule of thumb' is to charge no faster than the one hour rate. So we're looking for 300 mA or so. 500 is better than 700 and probably OK for a few times. The stock TV charger will do the '1C rate' charge but I'm sure there are others that will do fine as well.

    OF
  18. Nic

    Nic Active Member

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    Which Omi carts do people like for the Ultralite? I've seen 1.5 and 2.4 mentioned. What differences are there between the two? Thanks!
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    OF Well-Known Member

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    If you're new to them, go with 2.4 Ohms. They are much easier to learn. When you've mastered them, then consider trying 1.5 Ohms which produce more vapor but are much harder to control. Many find their oil tastes better in 2.4s as well.

    OF
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  20. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I second that, the 2.4 will give you longer battery life, and will have a better flavor, along with the easier learning curve.
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  21. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    And less leaks, if my modest experience is any indication? Once you have your cool down technique down this aspect is easier to deal with. Until then it can drive a guy nuts to have it flooded every time you pick it up again......

    OF
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  22. Nic

    Nic Active Member

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    Wonderful! I think using the Omi carts will be a great alternative to the dart when necessary. Hopefully the 510 to m601 adapters are back in stock soon. Thank you both for your advice!!
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  23. kushcabbage

    kushcabbage vapor nerd

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    ahh I'm so excited are they out of stock at that website already? I placed my order there a few days ago when I saw the link to the new ones with slits
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  24. Nic

    Nic Active Member

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    I think my link was to those without slits. They are out of stock. Do you have the link handy for the adapter with slits?
  25. kushcabbage

    kushcabbage vapor nerd

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