Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

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Guys

You can use your old tanks, or the new coils, you can switch out oils within seconds still all you would need is tweezers or a paper clip to grab the handle of the oil coil.



The 0.5 buffer means it will produce vapor and can continue to produce vapor, but for massive hits i would suggest you load 0.6 or 0.9 and see what it can do. Then tell me how good it was if your still able to stop coughing.

Im not joking with you. 0.5 is a buffer anything above that and your asking for trouble. The SR 71 is by no means conservative, in fact its made to destroy your essential oil collection. It is designed to vaporizer anything and everything you throw in it, even dirty water extracts or anything for that matter that is oil.
 

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Just placed my preorder.
Last thing i'm wondering about, is if the design means it will be messy to switch coils
or if the best thing to do is fill a coil and leave it in there.

Its just so hard to get that TOP SHELF quality oil around where i live.
SR-71 is gonna make my Persei DAILY DRIVE #1 again.
No more fucking with badly made concentrates in disposable carts.
 
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Just placed my preorder.
Last thing i'm wondering about, is if the design means it will be messy to switch coils
or if the best thing to do is fill a coil and leave it in there.


We are trying to design a carry case, and one day once all the important stuff is done will have that up. Its not messy at all. Just the containers to store them in when taking them out this should keep it clean as possible.
 

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Awesome, really can't wait to see how this works.
Moreso can't wait to get CRUSHED by the SR-71!

THC SCIENTIFIC / Delta9 really stays on their shit.
Wish more vape manufacturers followed your lead!
 
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GoGlass

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Hello Guys,

just a newbie quesion : can someone explain me the main difference between the Hercules SR-71 and the new 1701 carts ? (The 1701 carts are actually in BETA TESTING by OF and ten other people) ? Thanks !
 
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Atomsk

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Hello Guys,

just a newbie quesion : can someone explain me the main difference between the Hercules SR-71 and the new 1701 carts ? (The 1701 carts are actually in BETA TESTING by OF and ten other people) ? Thanks !

You can consider the 1701, along with the regular Omicrons carts, as, at one point or another, disposable. The 1701's are built for runny oils. The Hercules SR. will vape anything oil. It is meant to be cleaned and maintained as a permanent attachement. Both are wickless.
 

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You can consider the 1701, along with the regular Omicrons carts, as, at one point or another, disposable. The 1701's are built for runny oils. The Hercules SR. will vape anything oil. It is meant to be cleaned and maintained as a permanent attachement. Both are wickless.

Thanks for this explanation Atomsk. But does the 1701 carts are only for the Omicron ?
So we can see the Hercules SR like the 'pro version' of the 1701, for the Persei ?

And a few pages back, G has talked about HAT (= Herbal Alternative Treatment). But i cant find infos about that. Do you know if it's a future attachment for the Persei ? Thanks again for your help !
 
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Oh those are fighting words :) The challenge is on!
How do you say, "SHATTER" = "WAKE & BAKE"!

Sorry I meant to say, "MEDICATE"!

Low Yield High Powered!

CONCENTRATE

"SR-71"?
Is that the name of the New Rocket Launcher?
"MAX FLIGHT" = SR-71 EXPERIENCE
 
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QUESTION: (Anyone) what ,if any ,improvements have been made to '"Hercules 3.7 v"'

specifically for v2.5 ,O-Phos ?/? ,tia ,Sc_
 
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Both are wickless.

I'm not 100% sure on that. G said it didn't have silica wicks (or various versions of 'glass', he seemed to be picking words carefully?), I'm not sure there's not some sort of wick feeding the oil in. G will have to set that one straight?

But does the 1701 carts are only for the Omicron ?
So we can see the Hercules SR like the 'pro version' of the 1701, for the Persei ?

No, it works just fine on Persei, in fact since I'm using the Nibbler with it right now, it 'belongs' on a larger base. My single cart Persei head died last night, the dual leaves it off center, so I'm now using it on one of my 18650 based VV heads with a thread adapter. The 1701 I have is basically a shorter 1.5 Ohm Omicron cart as far as the supply is concerned, it'll work anywhere the 1.5s work now. G said production ones in the next batch will be 2.4 Ohms.

I don't agree Hercules is a super 1701, I see 1701 as being a special use cart. Hercules is a much more powerful thing, capable of much more. Either will work fine on Persei, Hercules is limited in what will drive it. IMO they're two entirely different concepts with different abilities, designed to do different jobs in a different way. They complement each other.

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Wow, what an interesting read this has been! I can't say I read every single one of the 419+ posts in this thread, but I've read enough to convince me that THC-S is a company that inspires extremely strong reactions in its customer base, ranging from "greatest thing to sliced bread" to "the most frustrating thing ever". And this is often expressed by the SAME customer!

This guy, "G", who seems to be the HMFIC over at THC-S is also a piece of work. He seems to be part mad scientist and part azzhat! (The company would be smart to let him invent and vape all day and let someone with some people/marketing experience deal with the public!) BTW, I've been accused of being a "mad scientist/azzhat" myself, so I'm most definitely NOT putting "G" down!

As for the customers themselves, it seems that once the relatively steep learning curve is surmounted, this thing is a beast and, for the most part, works like a champ. Look, let's all be honest here. Even effn' JOINTS give people trouble from time to time (can you say "runner"?) so I don't fault anything for not working perfectly 100% of the time.

As I've posted elsewhere, I just pulled the trigger on a Dabbler. This will be my first true pen vape. Currently, I own a MFLB, an Herbalaire 2.1, and an original iolite. I also own a variety of the "cartridge style" ecigs which are popular here in SoCal. Most of them just vape a solution of CO2 extract or BHO dissolved in PG. Nice but weak. I've been medicating since the late 70's, so naturally the PG isn't going to have the same effect on a "hard head" like me vs. Mr. or Ms. Noobee.

I expect my Dabbler to arrive before the weekend and I have some nice Pineapple Kush CO2 wax waiting for it (also plan to pick up a few other things, time permitting, but at least of the Kush!) I figure this will give me a good "baseline" to work with, comparing everything to my standard Ti nail and dome rig.

The Persei and the Cera are next on my radar. I'm learning everything I can about them. Of course, I'd love to actually TRY either or both of the units, but save doing that, reading what everyone here has to say and watching YT videos is the next best thing. Concentrates are most important to me. These days, that's 90%+ of what I medicate with. Flowers, not so much, though certainly that would be a nice bonus. Oh, I love Pure Gold as well, so I'm looking forward to trying that. I've found that just squirting it into a Sapphire carto works like a champ.

Just FYI, I saw a young dude drawing on a Persei sitting outside my Vons supermarket the other day. I almost went up and talked to him, but decided that I didn't want to freak him out and ruin his high (assuming he was vaping THC and not nicotine ;)

For now, I'm going to watch the developments of both the Persei and the Cera. Must admit I'm leaning toward the Persei, but ultimately, the one which tastes and performs the best will get my vote. I should add that it should work like a auto-reloading Ti nail. It should hold a gram or so and each hit should be like a fresh dab. THAT is the ultimate. And it SHOULD be as "brain dead" as doing a dab using a glass dabber, a torch, and a nail. Just heat that mofo up, drop yer globe on, dab, and SUUUUUCK. Why do vapes always have to have a "learning curve"? Christ, we've got microprocessors that can feedback loop ANYthing, it's just not acceptable in today's age to have a $500.00 product (Cera Ti, hello) that requires the user to climb a steep learning curve.

OK, end of rant!
 
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Hello Mr Dabs, I must say what you are looking for is the Hercules Sr 71.

It's just about throw it in there, press the button and wait for 5 seconds-10 seconds (depending on concentrate) and hold on to something. The only learning curve is inserting the batteries correctly, and assembling your Herc correctly.

Wow, what an interesting read this has been! I can't say I read every single one of the 419+ posts in this thread, but I've read enough to convince me that THC-S is a company that inspires extremely strong reactions in its customer base, ranging from "greatest thing to sliced bread" to "the most frustrating thing ever". And this is often expressed by the SAME customer!

This guy, "G", who seems to be the HMFIC over at THC-S is also a piece of work. He seems to be part mad scientist and part azzhat! (The company would be smart to let him invent and vape all day and let someone with some people/marketing experience deal with the public!) BTW, I've been accused of being a "mad scientist/azzhat" myself, so I'm most definitely NOT putting "G" down!

As for the customers themselves, it seems that once the relatively steep learning curve is surmounted, this thing is a beast and, for the most part, works like a champ. Look, let's all be honest here. Even effn' JOINTS give people trouble from time to time (can you say "runner"?) so I don't fault anything for not working perfectly 100% of the time.

As I've posted elsewhere, I just pulled the trigger on a Dabbler. This will be my first true pen vape. Currently, I own a MFLB, an Herbalaire 2.1, and an original iolite. I also own a variety of the "cartridge style" ecigs which are popular here in SoCal. Most of them just vape a solution of CO2 extract or BHO dissolved in PG. Nice but weak. I've been medicating since the late 70's, so naturally the PG isn't going to have the same effect on a "hard head" like me vs. Mr. or Ms. Noobee.

I expect my Dabbler to arrive before the weekend and I have some nice Pineapple Kush CO2 wax waiting for it (also plan to pick up a few other things, time permitting, but at least of the Kush!) I figure this will give me a good "baseline" to work with, comparing everything to my standard Ti nail and dome rig.

The Persei and the Cera are next on my radar. I'm learning everything I can about them. Of course, I'd love to actually TRY either or both of the units, but save doing that, reading what everyone here has to say and watching YT videos is the next best thing. Concentrates are most important to me. These days, that's 90%+ of what I medicate with. Flowers, not so much, though certainly that would be a nice bonus. Oh, I love Pure Gold as well, so I'm looking forward to trying that. I've found that just squirting it into a Sapphire carto works like a champ.

Just FYI, I saw a young dude drawing on a Persei sitting outside my Vons supermarket the other day. I almost went up and talked to him, but decided that I didn't want to freak him out and ruin his high (assuming he was vaping THC and not nicotine ;)

For now, I'm going to watch the developments of both the Persei and the Cera. Must admit I'm leaning toward the Persei, but ultimately, the one which tastes and performs the best will get my vote. I should add that it should work like a auto-reloading Ti nail. It should hold a gram or so and each hit should be like a fresh dab. THAT is the ultimate. And it SHOULD be as "brain dead" as doing a dab using a glass dabber, a torch, and a nail. Just heat that mofo up, drop yer globe on, dab, and SUUUUUCK. Why do vapes always have to have a "learning curve"? Christ, we've got microprocessors that can feedback loop ANYthing, it's just not acceptable in today's age to have a $500.00 product (Cera Ti, hello) that requires the user to climb a steep learning curve.

OK, end of rant!
 

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@Mr.Dabs
Don't forget these pocket vapes are reproducing desktop vaporizer performance. You're expectations are a bit high for a field that is only now getting on it's feet, although guys like G are managing to keep a pretty high standard. A properly loaded/charged O-Phos is so stealthy and cool, it's part of 007's Essentials kit along side his Electric Razor/Tazer and his Condom/Raft.

G's carts, aside from a few developmental bumps in the road, have been a revolution that other portable oil vapes have had to measure themselves against. Besides the Dart, I can't think of anything that's come close.
But if the Hercules is finally complete, that is all moot and the next revolution may be upon us.

G spends a lot of time personally addressing customers and is a regular on this forum. That, along with the Bender, the Nibbler and the Hercules add ons, and you'd likely never regret a Persei purchase.
 

ataxian

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This guy, "G", who seems to be the HMFIC over at THC-S is also a piece of work. He seems to be part mad scientist and part azzhat!
For now, I'm going to watch the developments of both the Persei and the Cera. Must admit I'm leaning toward the Persei!

I really should just shut up however I'm a PERSEI user that came from the Cannabis culture of the 70's.
I like FLOWERS however CONCENTRATES I LOVE!
This is why the HERCULES SR-71 is the accessory made for the medical marijuana patient.
G is the man behind it all. Typical Engineer like the ones I worked all over the globe with.
I had cheap E-Cigarettes for doing DABS that consumed medicine beyond reason.
The PERSIE being build so well and it actually consumes concentrates efficiently.
I look more for flavor than economy.
Most likely the OMNICRON would have been perfect!
Now that I have gone through the fire learning this thing I have to say I love it.
You get what you pay for as the old adage goes!

The CERA is another well build unit however the PERSEI is a better value in my little option.


I like nice Motor Cycles, Exotic Cars and Motor Boats.
The PERSEI has the fit and finish to go along with LUXURY. (Not for the Jerry Springer type)
I have a PERSEI loaded with some SHATTER that is amazing (FLAVOR & EFFECT).
A cheap E-PEN could not keep up with the POWER of the PERSEI.
My SS kit (SHORTY TUBE) and a 2.4 Cartomizer for the PG is really nice.
I could do it with a cheap solution however I need my wax as well.
The thing I like the most is the variety of medicines you can do in the attachments.

In the 70's when we had FLOWERS of GDP I would have loved to have had a BENDER.
Burning ZIG-ZAGS was the mode back then. (how wasteful!)

If you remember in the 70's burning Honey Oil on a piece of tin foil and a cut off straw from McDonald's then you know why I love the PERESI so much!

"G" is just the brains that made it easier to medicate!
 

Mr. Dabs

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@THC Scientific - That may very well be the case. I certainly hope so and look forward to reading the reviews. As I say below, this device is tops on my list, at the moment, of next portable to get. Thanks for the heads-up on it.

@Adobewan - Oh, I know, and I'm not expecting the same performance from a portable system that one can get in a home system. At least not at the frequency or level one gets from a torch and nail. I really just want the best portable available. The Hercules SR-71 sounds like an evolution in the product line and that's good to see. Obviously, they are innovating like crazy and while that can be frustrating for "early adopters", it shows me that this dude is serious about creating the best.

As I say, for now, I have the Dabbler on order, but I'm not expecting that to be my ultimate device. Just a bridge until I get a chance to see how things develop.

As of right now, the SR-71 will likely be my next vape. But I want to hear from some of the "pros" and let any of the first-run bugs get worked out. I appreciate the info and exchanges here.

Forgot to add: Any of you who've used both the Persei and the Dabbler, can you comment on the experience, in general, and the taste in specific? Thanks.
 
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Breathemetal

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I hope someone can get the new herc to work well with bho
Id actually get a persei if it could handle bho as well as thinner concentrates like PG
I mean, i can get some thinner concentrates like PG but i prefer my crumble
 
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kindbeats

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I hope someone can get the new herc to work well with bho
Id actually get a persei if it could handle bho as well as thinner concentrates like PG
I mean, i can get some thinner concentrates like PG but i prefer my crumble


Besides the 1701 carts, all of the Persei and Omicron essential oil carts are specifically designed to work with bho in all of its various forms (wax, crumble, budder, shatter, taffy, etc.). The Herc SR-71 should perform the best out of all of them, unless of course you're looking to be more conservative with your oils. In that case, I would think the regular omicarts would be best. The first version of the Herc was able to give me nail sized dabs and the SR-71 is supposed to be even more impressive.
 

Mr. Dabs

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@ataxian - I understand what you are saying. You and I have similar tastes, only I like high-end bicycles, cars, and computers. I actually appreciate anything which is well made and works well. I appreciate nice things, which is why I am currently evaluating the Cera and the Persei. As I say, the Dabbler is a little tide over for me to play around with "wax on the go", if you will.

My other thought was to rig up my own "super ecig" using one of the mods (such as the Vamo) and adding some of my own cartos and such. However, it quickly is becoming obvious to me that "G" has already done a lot of the hard work here and brought it to fruition in a manner I'm unlikely to do. Besides, I can always get a thread connector and a Vamo down the road and experiment with my Persei stuff, assuming it doesn't void the warranty (and if it does, I might just get a second one to 'eff around with.)

I'm really leaning toward the Persei Hercules SR-71 setup. I'm guessing by what I'm reading that pre-orders are being taken, so we should start reading about how it performs soon enough. In my younger days when I had more time, I'd be all over the pre-order and not worried a bit if I was basically doing product testing. But, alas, I have responsibilities now which limit my fun time and I will allow others to play and I will reap the fruits of their joyful labor.

I can see that there is a core group of users of this product who are both intelligent "engineering types" as well as being serious stoners, something I definitely appreciate.

Thanks for your words, ataxian.
 
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I hope someone can get the new herc to work well with bho
Id actually get a persei if it could handle bho as well as thinner concentrates like PG
I mean, i can get some thinner concentrates like PG but i prefer my crumble



Hmm I must say the Herc works with all. There is no concentrate The Hercules SR -71 Can not vaporize.
 
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Got a set of trustfire 18350's while I'm waiting on my battery/charger issues to get resolved. Now I have a new problem. When the batteries are flush with the top tube like the instructions state my back cap does not fit all the way onto the unit. Anyone have this problem?
 
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I hope someone can get the new herc to work well with bho
Id actually get a persei if it could handle bho as well as thinner concentrates like PG
I mean, i can get some thinner concentrates like PG but i prefer my crumble


Crumble no problem!
FLOWERS in a BENDER no problem!

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SHATTER no problem!
PG no problem!
 
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Got a set of trustfire 18350's while I'm waiting on my battery/charger issues to get resolved. Now I have a new problem. When the batteries are flush with the top tube like the instructions state my back cap does not fit all the way onto the unit. Anyone have this problem?



You would need to do another 1/2 turn on the bottom adjustable spring plate.
 
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