Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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OF
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Thanks, Bob. Good advice, I'm grateful. Sleeping on it a bit, I'm now thinking this is this guys personal opinion. He's not in favor of it, he's not actively working against it. Yes, I wish he'd keep such opinions out of public discussions but in the end I doubt Steven and I agree on all of the issues I think important.
In the end he's offering a proven good (100% testing) product, employing good people in a safe way. Perhaps I should deal with him in that marketplace?
While I'm not all that big on such 'shows' personally, they are, I think, very important to 'the movement'. Not matter what Steve might think, what he's doing (making this show happen) he's a comrade in a struggle I support. I hope I can make it this year, but if not I wish all concerned well.
Thanks again, good stuff.
Hey, hope you do make it down here, give us a shout if you do?
OF
In the end he's offering a proven good (100% testing) product, employing good people in a safe way. Perhaps I should deal with him in that marketplace?
While I'm not all that big on such 'shows' personally, they are, I think, very important to 'the movement'. Not matter what Steve might think, what he's doing (making this show happen) he's a comrade in a struggle I support. I hope I can make it this year, but if not I wish all concerned well.
Thanks again, good stuff.
Hey, hope you do make it down here, give us a shout if you do?
OF
JoeKickass
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I still believe Steve is fighting the good fight, I think he keeps talking up the medical position to counter the anti-marijuana stigma in middle aged folks these days. People who grew up with Reefer Maddness aren't going to be all that happy about everyone running around high but they are old and arthritic, why not turn it into medicine? Something they are very familiar with!
If you watch Weed Wars Steve opens some of the episodes talking about how yeah he does believe marijuana should be treated like a prescription medicine, available to everyone but with a hurdle or two. But then he goes on to talk about recreational users and in his opinion a lot of the kids and adults using it to "get stoned" are really just self-medicating. If it helps then have fun with friends, eat, or get a good nights rest how is that not medicinal?
I personally use cannabis because I disliked modern anti-depressants and all their side-effects. So, in essence, I am the purest form of a recreational user. Someone who uses cannabis to have fun, to be happy, for "recreation". But I don't see why I can't be a patient as well. I eat better than I used to, I am more active, and I'm much more likely to strike up a conversation with someone.
I think cannabis can do something for everyone in some small way, and it makes me angry when I think of all the hard-working people out there that cannabis could help who are drinking themselves to death just because they want to follow the letter of the law.
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Wait, wait, wait! Just trying to catch up.
I've got one with no numbers and the original blue battery. I missed the significance of that? Guinea pigs?
You can't just put that out there and then leave us hanging.
Something new to be revealed at Deep Green?
Should I bring my unnumbered unit to the Festival for exchange for the new" super hi-tech greatest thing ever" model?
JoeKickass
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Wait, wait, wait! Just trying to catch up.
I've got one with no numbers and the original blue battery. I missed the significance of that? Guinea pigs?
You can't just put that out there and then leave us hanging.
Something new to be revealed at Deep Green?
Should I bring my unnumbered unit to the Festival for exchange for the new" super hi-tech greatest thing ever" model?
He said you would have to ship your kit in so I have a feeling he just wants to get all the Persei's numbered. I had a single top with no number and when the blue light started flickering they replaced it with good ole' number 405. But my Persei body and double top are still un-numbered so I'll probably take them up on whatever modernization they want to do. I bet they just want everyone's kit to be numbered with the same number on all the parts to make warranty issues easier or to discourage fraud or something.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
no sweat and will do. hope ya make it to the festival. i'll prolly end up visiting harborside if i make it that far south. as a grower i know the importance of proper testing. i have to guess as to quality, not that it's ever been an issue
and no mold goes to patients EVER, but i'll never know 100% for sure. definitely hit ya up if i roll that way. 
OF
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no sweat and will do. hope ya make it to the festival. i'll prolly end up visiting harborside if i make it that far south. as a grower i know the importance of proper testing. i have to guess as to quality, not that it's ever been an issue
Sounds like a good plan to me. Let me know.
FWIW I recall Harborside uses a lab anyone can send samples to? Might even own it? I think I recall reading there's a competitive lab as well. I recall prices under a hundred bucks. Sounds like cheap insurance to me.....
OF
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
i'm up in OR. not sending stuff across state lines. and there is something to be said about the percentages or testing anyway. one bud doesn't have the same as another, or another plant vs another, etc. i wouldn't want to have to pass that cost to my patients anyway as it is small scale. only 6 plants per patient in flower. honestly each bud would have to be tested to be 100%, but i do very good and constant visual inspection (100x magnification on 4 sections of plant). they are treated both foliar and soil drench with organic fungicides and miticides. both of which are flushed prior to harvest. any signs of mold and that plant is cut mold killed and turned into lotions or foods or oral sprays (sleepy time). 95% sure and that works for us. none could quite afford that level of testing. glad that it is done so people getting meds from unknown growers have some assurance. just a different model up here. thanks for the suggestion tho.
At one point i was a grower, then i had to stop, now only do it for personal, 2 plants thats all. Ill have some of my grow to share with people at the Deep Green. And if you are in Socal come see us at the Paid Dues Festival ( this will be confirmed this coming tuesday 04-3-12)
OF
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Well put. No doubt a big part of why it's so popular.
Wasn't it Maggie T. who said 'the only thing really wrong with Socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money'?
Still, in a system like in Oregon where you might end up with a single dedicated grower raising a few plants for your use at your expense it's good to know these things are being addressed. Were I to be there rather than here under our somewhat less restricted system, I'd sure want such attention wouldn't you?
OF
Robaba89
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Picked up a gram of C02 oil from a local collective.
I've never used c02 before... but it's hitting hard in the 5ohm.
It is making an odd crackling noise though. Is this just the liquid content in the oil/normal? Should I not buy this companies C02 again? It's tasty.. made with "acapulco gold" if that even exists anymore...
I've never used c02 before... but it's hitting hard in the 5ohm.
It is making an odd crackling noise though. Is this just the liquid content in the oil/normal? Should I not buy this companies C02 again? It's tasty.. made with "acapulco gold" if that even exists anymore...
JoeKickass
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Have you tried other oils? I've tried oh so many oils, usually because they have a great thc% to price ratio, and I have had problems with almost all of them
Basically what I think is going on is that the cart takes too long to cool down and there is some point where the temp is right for the oil to flow like a liquid through the wick and it pools on the inside of the airtube. I just make sure to pull harder and for longer to make sure it all goes up out the top rather than down on to the battery...This is actually why I don't use the cool metal mouthpieces, they overflow with this hitting method...
Vitolo
Vaporist
Battery question for all.
I have been having a great time discovering the variable setups.
I bought two 3v batteries, and they worked well... naturally, the charge eventually depleted, and got lower... so I attempted to charge them.
They do not register on the battery charger at all(light remains full green..not even a flicker)
When I put them on my unit, the button light lights, but dims out to nothing in a second.
Any tips or advice?
The battery charger works fine with all other batteries!
I have been having a great time discovering the variable setups.
I bought two 3v batteries, and they worked well... naturally, the charge eventually depleted, and got lower... so I attempted to charge them.
They do not register on the battery charger at all(light remains full green..not even a flicker)
When I put them on my unit, the button light lights, but dims out to nothing in a second.
Any tips or advice?
The battery charger works fine with all other batteries!
OF
Well-Known Member
Not to worry, I've found it to be fairly common. E-cigs do it a lot, I know guys that judge their juice charge and battery state by the sound. Funny to watch them 'key on' and stick it up to their ear.... I find it usually weakens and disappears sometimes.
I've used several types of CO2 waxes. All seemed to work well for me. My second and third favorite concentrates for this are CO2 waxes (after PG which should be on everyone's list if you can get it). In the end 'if it's good for you, it's good for me'.
BTW, I had some of 'the Gold' back in the day. It was killer for sure, better IMO than Panama Red (which also was 'around' from time to time) but neither would make 'mids' today. The bud today is on par with lots of the dry 'Lebonese' hash we got back then. Today we have a whole different game.
OF
JoeKickass
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It's a good thing the battery charger didn't take them! Read the print on the batteries carefully and I think you will find they say "DO NOT RECHARGE" "Single Use Only" or something.
I think you bought non-rechargeable lithium batteries, commonly like $6-8 at little stores.
What you want are called li-ion rechargeable batteries, usually you have to buy them online.
There is another possibility but make sure they are rechargeables first!
jambandphan03
in flavor country
Always make sure you have rechargeable batteries before you charge and stack them, if they are not designed for recharging and you do, and then stack them, they can go boom...
OF
Well-Known Member
If you got them there they should work. A couple of thoughts come to mind. I have a similar charger and have trouble making contact with short batteries. There's very little 'preload' on the spring so it can have a long stroke in a short package. The result is contact is weak with short ones. Could this be the issue?
Also on mine there are some switches to set, bit I'd think that having any of them wrong would still charge, perhaps???
OF
JoeKickass
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Oh ok in that case the batteries just got a little bit too low and the charger is afraid to charge them. I've had it happen with imr batteries and the regular trustfires on the Persei charger, I think the low voltage cutoff is just set a bit too high or something. Like it won't charge if it's under 2.8v but a lot of batteries cut off at 2.7v or don't cut off like the orange imr batteries.
It would be best to measure the voltage to verify this but it has always been the case IME
What you need to do is raise the voltage of the dead battery a little bit so the charger can take it from there. I just find a cheap half-dead battery and short them for a second, let them sit for 30s or a minute and then short for another second, let sit and usually the charger should take them. If not just repeat, but make sure you don't use a really full battery or god forbid an imr battery to jump the dead battery. The act of jumping is already a bit tough on the dead battery so you want to make the charging current as small as possible, an imr battery would get it real hot real fast.
In the future I'm pretty sure it's better to charge lithium batteries before they flatline, I switch sets and charge when I notice performace dip a bit...
Darb
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You don't say what charger you are using....if it's the one that came with the Persei then it's not compatable with the 3.0v batteries(if they are rcr123a)
You will need another charger for these. The ultrafire WF-188 or similar.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
are you using the charger that came with the persei or the grey ultrafire wf-188? the dark persei charger won't charge the green (3v) batts, it only charges 3.7 which is why it works for both the large single and small double 3.7 batts.
EDIT + nice one darb. also if you are using the grey one you need to switch it to 3.2 on the side
JoeKickass
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Oh, I didn't know delta 9 sold 3.2v batteries, if you have lifepo4's then ya they aren't li-ion...