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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I wonder if that is vapor condensation, which will coat what ever it contacts and make it sticky. When you hit the herc, does the entire capsule inside get surrounded by vapor?
     
  2. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    some but its more noticable on the outside cuz im touching it. it also caused the capsule to get stuck briefly
     
  3. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    am pretty sure that's the point. as there is no hole on the top, when heated vapor will come out the bottom, then up to the mouthpiece. unless i am mistaken? ur tank should get a little sticky on the bottom, cuz that's where it makes contact with the heater. am i wrong?
     
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  4. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    how much oil have you loaded/run through it before noticing it getting sticky?
     
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  5. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I'm not so sure here, Bob. What are the four grooves under the lip for? My take is the vapor is forced out them into the airstream (such as it is) coming up from below. The bottom looks to be sintered metal, only slightly porous (didn't someone report not being able to suck air though it?). If there was a hole in the bottom and seal at the top pressure would pump it dry before you ever made vaping temperature I bet?

    With any luck at all tomorrow I'll find mine hiding at the PO and will get a close look at one.

    OF
     
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  6. kendo916

    kendo916 Member

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    I am also leaking a bit is it my oil?
     
  7. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    am pretty sure. the 4 holes are on the outside of the tank. i can blow thru it.
     
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  8. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Well if you're looking at it you sure know more than I do. Looking at the photos carefully, the notches are outside the o-ring they must be to let vapor past the cap? So the vapor is generated in the voids in the metal forming the bottom of the capsule?

    OF
     
  9. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    seems like. am guessing that is why previous poster removed cap and got massive hits. also can see why that isn't recommended in case of tipping.
     
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  10. Motavation

    Motavation What is your Motivation!!

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    Yes I have seen the Stix video, infact its a iVapor model she puts in herself:) lol notice they call it trippy stick but its the old iVapor with a cartridge..lol

    Well which do you want the persei from his noise or the ivapor from her:) lol I want neither~

    That is the Berner Video that started the whole trippy stick marketing along with there videos and network and word of mouth promotion! TS vaporizers are the biggest known name as even Omicron, Atmos, ivapor, and other users still call there units a Trippy Stick.

    Well if only the founders could of kept the spelling right and not been on the Pixie Stix lol

    Since when did the persei start doing herb(s)?
     
  11. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Sorry but Omicron users don't call their units a trippy stick.

    As for leaking can you better explain? As there is no way for it to leak out if the Herc, it might get some on the bottoms base of the ceramic but that vapes off also.
     
  12. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    PORQUIPLANE: I'm like you trying to consolidate to one system.

    So I'm doing the "PERSEI VOYAGE"!

    I like the HERCULES and will load it with some different concentrates. However the 2.4 cart has provided the biggest bang for the buck. I find them super efficient or did I just get luckily with a good batch of carts? The PURE GOLD I like as well. The taste when I put PG in a cartridge when I was learning was amazing. The best so far. The bummer was the leakage. I have not tried the PG with the HERCULES yet. For now I'm discovering all the different waxes we have here in California. However I'm hopeful the 1701 will do PURE GOLD in a efficient way!

    Here is my next sample to try (24 K NITRO GOLD)
    • 72.2%TotalTHC
    • 4.6%TotalCBD
    • 0.6%
    Your statement:
    "as well as making it too easy to over-medicate"

    Maybe that's why I sleep so well with the HERCULES.
    Use sparingly!
     
  13. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    Your analogy is pretty spot on!
     
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  14. jpdnkstr

    jpdnkstr Well-Known Member

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    Where do you access PG that sustained damage from hurricane Sandy?
     
  15. Darb

    Darb Well-Known Member

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    I have only been using my Persei with the bender for a while now.
    It took me way too long to get the desired effect with the original carts.
    While it might not be for everyone, it seems like it will be perfect for me.
    I can't wait until mine arrives!
     
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  16. Porquiplane

    Porquiplane Look Into My Eyes

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    Its not really accessible except cali and washington (as per their site). You know how things go for things that are unaccessible.... there is someone somewhere who can find something. Just stocked on a 10 when they came. Blew 5, now 5 left. Nowhere where most likely you are from should have it. But its worth it.
     
  17. nickzzzx

    nickzzzx Well-Known Member

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    Got my herc at the post office this morning...what a work of art, fantastic design, feels very high quality. Love the fit and finish of everything. 3 tanks instead of 2 was a nice bonus as well!

    Cleaned it with iso alcohol now I'm breaking in the ceramic element. After that I'll load up a tank and see what this thing can do :)

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    Only had a tiny bit to test out but it tasted a lot better in the Herc than it did in the original persei cart, more pure and unadulterated (no weird tastes, just oil like you would expect from a ti pad). Some flowed to the bottom from the tank and collected around the base of the heating element, is this normal? Is this unit a load as you go system or is it possible to load more than .1-.2 without it all flowing to the bottom and collecting around the bottom of the heating element. Does it still vaporize down there (around the base of the heating element? Can't wait to load in some fresh oil and try it out some more with better stuff.

    The two air intake holes do get slightly clogged from the oil collecting on the bottom but it doesn't seem to impede air flow because the entire mini-hammer gets pretty hot. I wonder how bad it would get clogged if more oil were on the bottom. Looks like we need to keep this thing clean.
     
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  18. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    Revision:
    Only had a tiny bit to test out but it tasted a lot better in the Herc than it did in the original persei cart, more pure and unadulterated. Some flowed to the bottom from the tank and collected around the base of the heating element, is this normal? Is this unit a load as you go system or is it possible to load more than .1-.2 without it all flowing to the bottom and colling around the bottom of the heating element. Does it still vaporize down there (around the base of the heating element? Can't wait to load in some fresh oil and try it out some more with better stuff.[/quote]

    The taste of the different waxes is definitely better than a cart so there is a trade off:

    Yield verses Flavor and Effect
    I am new to this however so far I like it and I'm starting to understand it better.

    A few minutes ago I loaded up some flowers mixed with kief. (4g Indica + 1g Kief is my cocktail)
    Fresh Betteries and WOW! Kicked by behind! I started engineering a glass or ceramic bowl for the use of flowers in the HERCULES.

    This thing is not over it has a lot of potential!

    My SOLO is good however I think the HERCULES is way stronger!
     
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  19. dankd420

    dankd420 Active Member

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    I reboiled my herc 3 more times. I will have to mention to watch your water level. I probably let it boil closer to 10 min and the level boiled down to only covering 2/3 of the black outer shell. End result is that the black coating developed a bubble and flaked off. Perhaps some sort of screen that holds the items off the bottom of the pan would work too.

    Another note clean any sticky residue from the persei head. Its never caused my carts issues but the bottom thread from the herc managed to stick to it(perhaps it heats more there than normal carts which caused it to stick so well) and then seperate the threading from the base. Sadly this puts me out of comission.

    DankD
     
  20. nickzzzx

    nickzzzx Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear about that :( thanks for the tips
    Maybe something like this would be useful in boiling..
    [​IMG]
    But why boil? Why not just find a sealable cleaning container and fill it up with iso alcohol and use that as a reusable soak/clean bath. When the alcohol solution becomes too saturated with oil, evaporate the alcohol and reclaim the oil.
     
  21. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Dank pm ill get you going again.
     
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  22. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    all of the "ecig" stuff that was coated with a color (black, titanium etc) seem to all peel after a few soaks of Iso or boil... just the nature of the coating used to color the metal.

    DankD what broke due to the oil on the threads? The new cart or the Persei top? Oil in the threads is a bad thing, as it will act like superglue when cold.
     
  23. dankd420

    dankd420 Active Member

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    Basically when i went to unscrew the hercules, the hercules came off but the thread was still screwed into the persei.

    EDIT: [​IMG]
    DankD
     
  24. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    First off I wouldn't call it a LEAK. I think is more of oil resin building up. I See now what causes it. I think in my impatient training I held the button to long and the condensation G mentioned built up. It's not a big deal.

    I think we need a new word for it since its not a leak. How about "Vapor Condensation Buildup"
     
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  25. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    All too true. And it can lead to Omicron owners private little hell complete with it's own twisted catch 22 if you have a V1 or are using an e-cig that charges through the socket and it's dead with the cart stuck on and you can't heat it to break it loose to charge it because you need the charge.....

    I've had to resort to fire, not a comforting thing to do. So nice to put fresh batteries in the other end.

    OF
     

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