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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. nickzzzx

    nickzzzx Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's condensation. Back when I used a herb iron (same ceramic heating element but bigger) to dab oil, if I dabbed too much, it would flow down the ceramic element because it liquifies from the heat before it gets a chance to vaporize. So I think it's basically oil sliding down on the element to the bottom
     
  2. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    I think it's still vaping though. It's not coming out of the cart just the tank. The heat is still vaping it slowly. iMo

    I hate to use the word leak. The old carts leaked, this one get internal buildup. Not external.
     
  3. ilovedoobies!

    ilovedoobies! Well-Known Member

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    I have not read all these posts but right away with the 7.4
    Hurc cart and so far it's hard not burning the flower for me and I filled the
    Oil cart and took one hit and it leaks :/ not sure why but its leaking into the
    Bottom of the hurc cart near the heating element!

    Any tips would be great but other than that it works really good ...

    Thought the hurc cart would not leak or is it ok if the slide in cart leaks ?
     
  4. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    For flowers I tap the button, never holding it. Seems common for the capsule to leak a little but, not confirmed yet. I believe it's still vaping in there after it "leaks"
     
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  5. BLAZING OG

    BLAZING OG Vaping is a way of life!

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    The round bottom ceramic base of the mini rod vapes off oil slowly, but I have noticed a few strong pulls will force some or most of the oil to pull up towards the hot mini rod and vape .
    I suggest you hold to something tightly, my wife blew out hit bigger than dab on the nail dome , it was incredible!!!!!¡¡¡
     
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  6. Bob Loblaw

    Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    agreed! and without a tank in there even!
     
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  7. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Guys the capsule is designed to transfer oil down onto the Ceramic heater. This is not a leak, please do not call it that as its going to get people confused. This happens when the tanks are over filled. That is why we said .2-.3 is best. Also your not cooling it down as the heater inside is designed to vaporize everything concentrated it needs a warm up time and a cool down time.

    Oil build up on the outside of the tank.

    This is caused by oil sliding down the tank and back up because of the air flow. This will still vaporize as soon as it gets hot enough. We made the Hercules to contain all the oil inside the unit. Testing after Testing and running 5 grams thought it it still works great. Now after the 2 or 3 gram i would say you would need to clean it but it is a purpose built design that will vaporize anything that you can fill the tanks with ( this statement is in regards to oils and oil based materials, not rocks or diamonds ).


    The bottom insulator is being re worked and we will replace all bad ones that come out.

    As for the outside insulator being bubbled up, thats over boiling and literally not an issue as it can be scrapped off and re applied with anything you want.

    For the top ring thats coming off, please do not worry as we are working on a better outside shell and will replace all that is bad.
     
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  8. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    if these are already known things to expect from the Herc, maybe some kind of, "what to expect" run down would help eliminate so many people from having accidents, or thinking they are having accidents with the new gear. If you are aware that the oil collects inside where the heat core is and it is supposed to be doing that, then that should be part of the "how to" on what this device does so people are not getting blindsided esp. since thses are so different from the other cart design. When you guys are experimenting, you must be noticing these things in beta. We keep getting new stuff handed to us with very little instructions until a bunch of people come in and say WTF?? Just my :2c:
     
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  9. ilovedoobies!

    ilovedoobies! Well-Known Member

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    Yeah true and I was just asking better yet wondering
    But that's good my questions are answered thanks FC
     
  10. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry jam. It's a mountain out of a mole hill at this point. Still a great product
     
  11. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    I understand your concern Jam, but until we get feedback on what people are running into we cant make instructions that is comprehensive. When it is in testing we never had this type of problems because it was in a controlled setting.
     
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  12. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I've got a solution for that, send a couple to DubC for testing. Not only is he himself out of control, but he gets fan mail from other guys who are also out of control......

    An acid test, as it were.

    OF
     
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  13. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    ;) That makes sense too, fair enough! Well I plan to test more of the solid concentrates when I get my Herc, to see how they behave for those who may not have good access to quality oils, but can get kif, hash, etc.. I also don't have an outside source for oils right now, so what I makes I vapes...
     
  14. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    guys please remember we stand behind our products and will correct all issues, but we cant correct them until we have a full feedback on what people are having issues with. We just dont have the tester base that we can tap or the resources. This is a brand new product and will take some feedback to fix. The design of the hercules is like any other design we put out, it is modular for a reason. So we can upgrade and make it better.

    I have diverted all engineers on these issue's and will have it fixed asap.

    The only issues we have right now is the bottom insulator, and the peeling. The tanks work as they are designed, but we will further work on that to make them specific as possible for different textures of concentrates.
     
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  15. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    I believe there was also the spinning top piece where the mp screws in.

    Wasn't trying to spank you G, :whip:just trying to help out. You guys are rocking it!:rockon:
     
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  16. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Yes forgot to mention that but on it as well.

    On the second part, there is just to many jokes to type up.



    Guys let me ask a question while the Hercules sinks in.

    what if i tell you we have something that can make your jaw drop? What if that something was capable of claiming to be the worlds most advanced? What if that something was capable of being 5 generations ahead of anything out there currently or anything that will come out within the next year?

    Simply GLOC. The G Stands for Glass

    As we all know there is nothing better, or cleaner then Glass.
     
  17. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    Can I get an L?
     
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  18. Darb

    Darb Well-Known Member

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    A glass concentrate attachment for the Persei?!?!
    That would be nice.
     
  19. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    Remember guys i said 5 generations ahead. Think bigger but smaller.
     
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  20. BLAZING OG

    BLAZING OG Vaping is a way of life!

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    :rockon:

    GLOC
    Glass Liquid Oil Cartridge lol

    what can it be??????
     
  21. kevin

    kevin Well-Known Member

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    Hey Guys
    Tip for using waxes in Hercules, I have found that when using wax or other solids the warm up time until full vapor is about 30 sec., then the wax is oil, very hot oil, vapor clouds from hell!! But then you have to keep chasing (Hitting ) it to cool it down and not waste your meds! Me I'm out of breath and enjoying my first hit and my oil is cooking away, This can lead to choking and sore thoat.
    So I put my wax into tank then heated it with Bic lighter until it just started to melt, then put it in Hercules. Warm up time to full vapor was HALF!! and was able to control the temp of oil much better, the core was not so hot that it cooks evrything which enabled me to enjoy my meds much more, I think this may also save on meds! Just heat it enough to melt it, this helps it get down into the tank and spread across the stone or whatever it is at the bottom of the tank and makes for much easier and even vaping!
    Hope this helps!:science:

    Kevin:tup:
     
  22. Authentic

    Authentic Persei abuser

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    The L in GLOC must stand for Laser. I bet you are working on either vaporizing or combusting with light. Glass Laser Optical Combustor? Then again, this forum is for those against combustion so... Glass Laser On Ceramic?
     
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  23. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Can I buy a vowel?

    OF
     
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  24. BLAZING OG

    BLAZING OG Vaping is a way of life!

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    i feel like were playing jeopardy!!!!!
    :clap::huh::clap:
     
  25. THC SCIENTIFIC

    THC SCIENTIFIC Black Gold Manufacturer

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    look for more news in the coming months. This is scheduled for release in Feb or March of next year.
     
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