The Lotus Vaporizer

[Egzoset]

I consider that having to rely on our own senses only is hardly satisfactory at all: as far as i'm concerned, it's too late by the time combustion is detected because of smell...

 

[pakalolo]

I consider that having to rely on our own senses only is hardly satisfactory at all: as far as i'm concerned, it's too late by the time combustion is detected because of smell...

What do you suggest we rely on?

As AGBeer said, the give-away is the taste not the smell. You don't need to see it and you only need to smell it if you're applying heat without drawing.

 

[Spacenstein]

Put the flames at 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock and that's it. There's no hot spot for feedback and its easier to scorch material but its worth it.

Yes. I use this method. I recommend it because your torch wont lose fuel as often-- even though it's a dual flame, you're just blasting it for 3 seconds at most, instead of 10+ with the standard torch. One thing I wanted to mention was that the Lotus really reminds me of just a fancy one-hitter. It depends on how much you load in the bowl, what lighter you use, etc.. but with 1 scoop, a dual-flame torch.. it's the perfect one hitter vape.

 

[reece]

Achievable-combustion temperature with herbal material is also bubbling-beautifully temperature for concentrates, keep in mind.

I see this often, yet I vape concentrates (qwiso) in my Zap with no problem.

My technique is getting better. I realized I was holding the flame way too close and my red dot was too large. The last few times I've used the Lotus there was no sign of burning.

I also reread the instructions. I had been going from memory, I read them when the thread first started, which turned out to be slightly off.

Also, I don't have a similar style vaporizer to compare it to. My observations are about the Lotus, not the Lotus compared to the VG (for example).

Again, great product. I liked it right out of the box. It is larger that it seems in the pictures. That is a good thing. Each time I use it I find my admiration growing.

Thanks to charliedontsurf for trading with me.

 

[lwien]

Damn.......... it's either this or a LaunchBox. I can't fuckin' decide. I really can't afford either one, but this new vape itch is gettin' really hard not to scratch.

 

[reece]

Yeah, I had been talking myself out of buying the Lotus since this thread started. The opportunity for a trade presented itself so I grabbed it in hopes of trading for another Zap. But the Zap was no longer available by the time the trade was finalized. I'm so happy it turned out that way. I still want another Zap but it wasn't a pressing matter (except in my head). I got lucky.

 

[JDSupreme]

as soon as them short stems are available again im all over this shit

 

[DevoTheStrange]

Well... i got me a Lotus that should be here by Saturday or Monday hopefully. Will give my impressions of it when i get it. Must find some vector butane before then.

 

[DaProfessor]

^You can get vector butane at williams-sonama. Yeah, the cooking store usually located in malls. They keep it behind the counter, just ask a sales person. Sometimes more convenient then finding which headshops/smokeshops sell it.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

oh i know exactly where to find it, just means a trip to a side of town that I never go to.

 

[sunsett70]

Damn.......... it's either this or a LaunchBox. I can't fuckin' decide. I really can't afford either one, but this new vape itch is gettin' really hard not to scratch.

yes, i am having the same indecisive issue (lotus vs MFLB) but at least i got rid of the VG option. now it is torch vs battery.

btw, any chance of herb 'blowback' using this lotus, and does the (internal of) vapor cap need to be cleaned?

for the lotus users, does using the short vs long stem make that much of a difference?

 

[David and Michael]

btw, any chance of herb 'blowback' using this lotus, and does the (internal of) vapor cap need to be cleaned?

I don't know what you mean by blowback. The inner tube of the vaporcap that fits over the bowl sometimes gets unburned herb stuck to the sides, above where the bowl fits. It can be wiped away with a toothpick if you want but it won't affect the operation of the Lotus unless it gets really thick, which I've never seen. That's the only buildup I've seen on the vaporcap.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

Alright... first impressions. unlike other vapes i have owned, this one is actually bigger than I imagined. I got the long stem. Took me a while to get it right, first few times were light hits, but I quickly realized that I wasn't getting enough heat. It was easy to get vapor the first try. Took me maybe 4 bowls to realize how much, or how little heat you want to use and how to get it.
The vapor from this thing tastes awesome.
Love the scoop size, I got a pretty high tolerance so I ended up loading two bowls and was happy with the results.
was able to get several light low temps hits, or one big high temp hit. Was actually able to combust, but I really had to work on getting it there.
Going to get me a torch with a bigger tank. So far. . . . I can honestly say I like it.

so i was comparing the load size, using included scoop, on Lotus vs my PD... I would say that I have learned that I pack my stems on my PD pretty full. Almost two scoops on this puppy equals one of my PD stemloads, using tubes I got with My pandora, the bowls are slightly deeper than my original tubes (One and 1/2 scoop for original tubes).

 

[axakal]

allright, i'm convinced. are there any european distributors already? hate thoose taxes.

i still got some questions for Max though.
the nickel non-issue was covered, but is there any chance of the finishing of the wooden ring cause any fumes?
i don't see the wp-adaptor available for purchase. did you drop the idea or is it just not in stock yet?
do you already know aproximately, when the next batch with the improvements and further accessoires will be ready? and what these will possibly be?
i've no problem with waiting a little, i just want to order everything at once.

thanks

 

[Spacenstein]

I'm really loving my Lotus still

I just wanted to say two things I've encountered.

One is.. me and Devo were on FC Chat and noticed that our Lotus' almost make a very faint sizzling sound when vaporizing. The torch lighter overpowers it, but I think you can actually hear the vaporization I added a lot of kief to my bowls and I heard it more.

Secondly... I think that with a smaller load size, when pulling harder, the herb will rearrange so that all the herb is bunched up above the hole opening.. I don't think this is a bad thing because it really seems to help with good extraction and efficiency.

@MaxJitter

While we're waiting for the new accessories.. can you add some screens to the store?

 

[David and Michael]

While we're waiting for the new accessories.. can you add some screens to the store?

Try soaking the stem & screen in methanol (hardware store alcohol) instead of removing the screen. Make sure the Lotus is totally dry before using it again as methanol is toxic. I warm it in the sun or over a hot air vent.

We will be selling screens, probably in packs of 10.
We are updating the website now.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Why use methanol? Ethanol or isopropyl alcohol would probably be just as effective.

Mine went in iso before shipping, came out clean.

 

[David and Michael]

Why use methanol? Ethanol or isopropyl alcohol would probably be just as effective.

Mine went in iso before shipping, came out clean.

I just tried a stem in iso and then methanol. The iso got it pretty clean and the methanol got it a little cleaner. Everyone else uses iso so I'm not going to argue with you too hard. Ethanol (vodka) does nothing but its only 40-50% alcohol.

 

[charliedontsurf]

You can find white dog distillates at 100% alcohol if you're in any state worth living in

 

[DevoTheStrange]

or track down some everclear, that is what i use, which is 95%

 

[Spacenstein]

Okay so.. I told you my first impressions/experiences and I want to stop by and mention a few things I've noticed.

This thing has got me on portability because in windy or even snowy situations, you can still easily vape just walking down the road.. The jet torch I'm using is completely wind proof, but it's possible with the other standard lighter too.

Also, I want clear up some things about burning.. When you use the Lotus with a correct amount, one scoop, it's almost impossible to burn the herb, no matter how hot your red spot is.. Although, it allows you to completely vape all the actives and moisture out of your bud.

Also, after finishing a bowl or two I'll take the cap off and empty the vaped bud and smoke the resin and herb on the screen to clear it up.. Anyone else do this? I think it's an effective way to open up airflow and also gives me a great vapor-resin-y hit.

-S

 

[VaporNation]

Very interesting. Reminds me of the Vapor Genie. How does it compare to a Vapor Genie or Magic Flight?

 

[charliedontsurf]

Also, after finishing a bowl or two I'll take the cap off and empty the vaped bud and smoke the resin and herb on the screen to clear it up.. Anyone else do this? I think it's an effective way to open up airflow and also gives me a great vapor-resin-y hit.

-S

I didn't replace the stock (extremely fine mesh) screen until late into my Lotus ownership. The fine mesh would constantly get clogged and required burning out every 3 to 4, largish 2 scoop bowls. So yeah, I was doing the exact same thing, since the Lotus requires a very clear air flow. I never really enjoyed those hits personally, and I do smoke from time to time.

To VN, it's very different from VG, separating the butane from the air path, with a smaller bowl and higher quality construction, with accompanying higher price.

It's a very different animal from the MFLB, with a different purpose in life, mflb is at its best when stealth is priority number 1, Lotus comes out when that priority switches to efficiency and flavor.

I'd say Lotus probably has a smaller learning curve than either. You'll have a hard time teaching the dumb or disinterested (yeah I used that in another post) to use any of the three.

 

[sunsett70]

Also, after finishing a bowl or two I'll take the cap off and empty the vaped bud and smoke the resin and herb on the screen to clear it up.. Anyone else do this? I think it's an effective way to open up airflow and also gives me a great vapor-resin-y hit.

-S

bro, when u say 'smoke the resin and herb, do you mean combust the thing? like how, putting the fire directly unto the herb?

 

[Spacenstein]

Also, after finishing a bowl or two I'll take the cap off and empty the vaped bud and smoke the resin and herb on the screen to clear it up.. Anyone else do this? I think it's an effective way to open up airflow and also gives me a great vapor-resin-y hit.

-S

bro, when u say 'smoke the resin and herb, do you mean combust the thing? like how, putting the fire directly unto the herb?

This happens only one every two or three bowls... The Lotus screen gets very clogged and goopy and it sorta makes dragging harder. I empty the bowl and scrape the screen with the scoop. With the vapor cap still off, I use my torch lighter to smoke away the resin and herb, almost hash like substance, from above/beneath/inbetween the screen, just like a normal pipe. Then I blow out ash, if any, and repack to vape again. The hit is really powerful, IME. My stem has not started to smell like a traditional combustion pipe, and I' still getting great vaporhash from soaking my Lotus.