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The Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by midgetsanchez, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. lovecrush

    lovecrush http://goo.gl/EsKJzJ

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    An update:

    Yesterday I was already pretty baked and tired, but I'm pretty sure it combusted ONE TIME.

    It was when I let my SO try the gh and she held the button for like 10 seconds instead of just clicking it (she didn't understood how it worked at first, it was my fault here). She got a lot of vapor after I turned it off and on again and explained how to use it. When I tried to use it afterwards, it burned and I felt a terrible taste of combustion in my tongue, followed by flashing red and blue lights and a rattling noise when heating up. Also it was changing from red to blue light in just 1 or 2 seconds instead of 3 to 5. I think it actually combusted just once and the nasty taste was there for like 4 or 5 sessions (4 pulls each).

    I slammed hard the gh backend against the palm of my hands a few times (didn't wanted to knock against a table lol) and rotated quickly the temperature dial a few times from 1 to 5 (saw that 'fix' in the gh fix thread, thanks for that I guess).

    This morning I tried to use it and for my surprise, no flashing red and blue lights and rattling noises, and it is producing delicious vapor like it should.

    Maybe it's fixed? My warranty request it's still open and I can't add a new message, since I already posted 2 things in it.
     
  2. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    Here's another example of why we could use a dedicated grasshopper fixes thread! Thanks!!!
     
  3. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v4.0a (unstable) Staff Member

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    Multiple threads for the same device would lead to confusion and a management nightmare for the moderators. We have an alternate solution: collect the fixes and make a Resource. Of course this requires that someone adopt the problem and manage it.
     
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  4. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth, my unit still worked intimittently when it had a broken heat sensor, but ultimately it was not performing normally.

    Hopefully they just send out a replacement body @lovecrush
    Sorry to hear you've had such a short lived first round :(
     
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  5. TheWhisper

    TheWhisper Well-Known Member

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    Isn't this also a use case for a Best Of thread?
     
  6. HerbieVonVapster

    HerbieVonVapster Well-Known Member

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    Had same experience ended up getting a new body under warranty. Wasn't till I already tried the new body and was cleaning up the old one to send in did I notice it was working.

    I email GHL and was told old body might be ok. Since only had one battery at time requested if I could return body after received new batteries.

    Once batteries arrived spent about a week with both bodies. I ran muti bowls at different temps on both. I found no difference in performances.

    Ended up keeping the original body in the end. The new one was more of a shiny metal and didn't match the tip and backend as well.

    It has been running fine the last month. Can run it at 5 thru water and can't combust. Guess a test would be to run it at high if combust again it's a issue. Also guess could try starting at 1 and trying slowly move up the dial see if different temperatures. I would think if sensor was shot it be stuck on high.
     
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  7. lovecrush

    lovecrush http://goo.gl/EsKJzJ

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    That's nice to know. It is working perfectly since I did these steps above, but I will wait on the new backend and see if there is any differences between them. I'm about to clean the backend threads with a q-tip dipped in iso to see if there is any kind of gunk in it.
     
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  8. Gregori

    Gregori CannaBoss

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    High five bro! You just saved my GH.
    Don't know who will take care of that hypothétique Ressource, but it should crédit you.
     
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  9. Vapor_Eyes

    Vapor_Eyes unfiltered

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    I actually tried to create a resource last night but I couldn't figure out how. Perhaps it's because I'm on mobile.
     
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  10. jabba

    jabba Well-Known Member

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    Still absolutely love the GH. My back end has been getting hotter and hotter over time. I am a one pull and done user...and I click it off before finishing...always. Still..the back end seems hotter than the heater end during a 15 second use. I notice absolutely zero functional deficiencies....the GH seems to work perfectly despite the heat generated at the back. The back end is borderline too hot to hold...especially if grasped firmly. Though subjective, it would be hard to call this back end heat "warm"...its hot...and once the button is pushed...you can feel it heat up like a stove coil.

    I sent GH a warranty request and they VERY quickly sent a new back end which I should receive in the mail today. I couldn't have expected such a quick response from any company...the service was very quick and very easy. I'll report back after I receive and try out the new back end.

    No complaints...my GH never stopped truly functioning ...and a supposed repair is on the way. I am then instructed to ship the back end to Hopper...which will cost me only a few dollars. If the new back end provides remedy...I'll be calling this the easiest warranty repair ever.

    Edit: Ha...just got it in the mail. Quick test...just heated it up on 3, 4, and 5 without material in the chamber while grasping the back end....no heat. Yippeee!! I freaking love this thing.
     
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  11. Vapor_Eyes

    Vapor_Eyes unfiltered

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    I also had a backend that was getting warmer over time. It was not yet to the point of being what I would call hot.

    Thanks to a post by @GreenHopper I discovered a potential fix. What I did was hold the clip with one hand while rapidly moving the temp dial from minimum to maximum. I moved it as fast as I could for 5-10 seconds. The movement got smoother as I did this. I did this with the Grasshopper turned off.

    I actually did this in the middle of a chamber, between hits. The next hit the backend stayed completely cool, I'm talking room temperature. That is how my hopper worked for the first few weeks.

    If your new backend gradually gets hotter you might want to try this fix. Here's my original post with a little more detail:

     
  12. Vapetrees

    Vapetrees Vaped Out

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    You're right! I just tried it lol. It does feel cooler, also as I was hitting it unscrewed I then tightened it and it felt more harsh. I will keep trying it this way.
     
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  13. JoeMama

    JoeMama Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know what type of battery is used? I don't see anything in the description on the GH website... Lithium-Ion? NiCad? Grapefruit Juice and Baking Soda?

    If you go through 5 batteries in 2 months, then for the sake of math let's say that you go through 1 battery in 1/5th of 2 months, which is roughly 2 weeks. One brand new battery only lasts you 2 weeks before it's "dead"?? Sorry if I don't understand but this is very worrisome information.

    Y'know, if I had anything to do with GHL, I'd have a product forum right on the GH website; monitored, of course, for BS. Their flow-chart is pretty good, no doubt, but these gems coming up on here like @Vapor_Eyes Fix need to be made findable. Hell, it might even make GH's life easier with less warranty claims!
     
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  14. Vapor_Eyes

    Vapor_Eyes unfiltered

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    I purchased some Grasshopper accessories from Delta 3D Studios and got a free B-Stock water adapter because my order was over $10. I didn't own any of the applicable vapes, but it seemed the Crafty / Mighty Mouthpiece Waterpipe Adapter (14mm) would work with my Grasshopper.

    You have to press the hopper against the silicone to get a nice seal, but it works great! I actually prefer using it over the silicone tip that comes with the hopper.

    Something to keep in mind if you're buying hopper accessories from @Ratchett .
     
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  15. IAmKrazy2

    IAmKrazy2 Darth Vapor

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    Tried this a few days ago and forgot to mention. Vapor came in pretty smooth on 4 or 4.25 and i was soon blowing massive clouds. It was hard to know how damn big the hits were until i exhaled.
     
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  16. Vapor_Eyes

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    I can't help but wonder how many of the warranty claims for backends were just for a dirty backend. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are defective backends out there, but I think the number may be much smaller than it seems.

    Between that and the issues that were caused by the charger, I wonder how many warranty claims were for an actual defective Grasshopper.

    It sounds weird but finding that fix has improved my confidence in the hopper's reliability.

    I have to give a lot of credit to @GreenHopper and u/Reeces_Pieces from Reddit. I wonder why Reeces deleted his post? I'm just glad @GreenHopper was nice enough to post it here. By the time I saw it here the original post was already gone.
     
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  17. jabba

    jabba Well-Known Member

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    Yes...I'd heard of this potential fix and tried it....and tried it again today before receiving the new back end. This fix did not change the hot back end on my GH whatsoever. I will say...that after getting my new back end today....I noticed that my old back end gap between top/bottom was more open at one side and nearly touching one another at the other side. Perhaps if the temp dial is leaning and touching the bottom ring...it is making an unwanted connection? I dunno...just happy to have a cool runner.
     
  18. Vapor_Eyes

    Vapor_Eyes unfiltered

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  19. Kermitt

    Kermitt Well-Known Member

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    I guess my device is not ok. One Batterie you can use about 200 times according GH. I have the GH 50 days.
    But I have not loaded any battery 4 times a day.

    Problem is, I can't give away my GH for repaier, because I can't go without the GH the next weeks. At the moment the GH is my only Vape. And I live in Germany, its a long way to GH Labs.
     
  20. Mr. Me2

    Mr. Me2 Well-Known Member

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    And I found the perfect tool to tighten the mouthpiece screen...for cheap! It's precision pointed tweezers I found at CVS in the Beauty supplies section. Retail is $4 (and I had a coupon, so it cost $3).
    [​IMG]

    @Vapor_Eyes, can you add this to resources for me, if you think it's worthy? Thx!
     
  21. JoeMama

    JoeMama Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, sir. I was thinking exactly that; it's quite possible many of the backends only needed some attention to cure the hot backend problem. Although I would hope that the issue itself triggered a QA response to reduce the likelihood of it happening in the first place.
    And I'd like to think that even if GHL knows about this "Fix", they would rather supply a higher-quality replacement than say, "Oh, just jiggle that thingy around and it might go away cuz we didn't make it right." :uhoh::ugh::doh: Plus, maybe they can re-work the returned backend and salvage it somehow for new product.

    Well I certainly understand your dilemma, Kermitt. I do hope you are able to get that resolved, though! I think it is your unit being quite unfriendly to batteries!

    Rock on, Vapor_Eyes, awesome!
     
  22. Vapor_Eyes

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    Done! If anyone wants me to add anything post it here. I've updated the formatting some, I am open to suggestions for improvement in that area too.

    I would like this to focus on actual fixes and not mods like the Crafty CU or MFLB mouthpiece mod. If someone else wants to create a resource for that it might be handy.
     
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  23. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    I think there is a good possibility that u/Reeces_pieces deleted his post because his sensor issue came back?
    When I had sensor issues, occasionally the device would seem to work normally.
    But it wasn't extracting as evenly and eventually it got worse.
    It might be worth asking Reeces_pieces how his hopper is now?

    After I got back from a coast trip, I had some sand/dirt in the back end (crunchy to adjust), and twisting it repeatedly cleaned it up (the action is still smooth today).
    However I am not sure if my backend is without fault as it does occasionally heat up excessively.

    I have noticed that the clip doesn't feel as secure as it originally did (there is some play side-to-side) and I wonder if this could have anything to do with an internal connection issue?
     
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  24. UnshavenFish

    UnshavenFish Well-Known Member

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    Yeah My hopper was ordered April 20th received April 21st and by the 1st June had the red/blue sensor lights flashing, since then I have been doing the rapid clicks, fast spinning temp dial and a few other things like standing on my head while pointing my feet North-East and tapping my nose, and while it has kept my hopper going for longer it has gotten progressively worse to the point that it now only works around 3-5 times out of say 20-30.

    So while it does work I don't think it is a permanent fix (at least for some), guess I should open a warranty and get mine sent in but I'm really enjoying my butane vapes again and I know when my hopper is fixed it will be almost all I use so maybe one more week then I will bite the bullet.
     
  25. Slow Draw McGraw

    Slow Draw McGraw Sticky Brick Labs Company Rep

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    I wish they would just put this in all Vape manuals. It's works I tell you! :D
     

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