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The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by Rockwise, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    Ooops... I got this totally wrong. That makes sense of course... thanks for patiently pointing this out ;)
     
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  2. TomC1315

    TomC1315 Well-Known Member

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    Good call Vape Donkey 650 :-)

    The package indicates that the chicken bags are OK for temps up to 400*F/204*C

    Although I'm vaping @ 359*F 24/7, maybe I'll reconsider using them.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LKAK2W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Modnote: Moved reply from quote tags
     
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  3. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    I think the consideration of the maximum temps is important when such a bag is sitting in an oven on a plus 200°C baking tray or furnace grate. When the air is hitting the bowl at 230°C, it will have cooled off already significantly when it leaves the material. I remember someone on a german forum measuring the temps after the bowl in a Volcano, and even in the highest setting the air entering the balloon was below 200°C, which all those bags can handle.
     
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  4. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    A very good point...
    It's worth remembering that when your vaping with the eq at 200, thats the temp of your heater, not you load, or vapour....
    The vapour ending up in the bag, or your lungs, is considerably cooler ...
     
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  5. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    Its good to be quite discriminating with high standards when picking outside parts and materials for use with vaporizers. Even if rated to the proper temperature range you are using, that does not necessarily make it appropriate to use with vapes. In this case, we're talking a plastic bag you put in the oven to cook food then remove from your food and you eat (not the bag, duh, but probably eating micro particles of plastic, no big deal)

    Just because the bag is safe for cooking, even with the heat losses and drop in temps from our flowers, to vape, to bag, stated above which should be within these bag's heat range, that does not make it appropriate to fill with hot gases and then inhale them. Thats not the intended use of these bags.

    I pick this point specifically, because when i was starting vaping 6 years ago, with the volcano (still using it) i experimented using some reynolds 'turkey bags' as my vape bags. Rated to 350F, they were good because they are huge, and are already closed on one end so they're easier to install.

    However, after filling and inhaling these turkey bags a few times, it became clear they were causing an irritating sensation in my throat and negatively affecting the flavor of the vape, especially when compared to S&B volcano bags.

    So i stopped using the turkey bags, and i only use volcano bags for vaping now, either on my EQ or my volcano. These bags are properly rated for a high heat and are intended for vaping.

    Probably inhaled quite a bit of nasty plastic crap with the turkey bags, but at least i learned something. And that experience didnt harm me nearly as bad as how the pax nearly destroyed my tonsil :o That is such a shitty, un-medical grade vape. Hate to open a can of worms here, i know the pax is pretty popular around here (unfortunately) :worms:
     
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  6. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about those turkey bag, but 350°F is less than 180°C, so I wouldn't have picked these. The "orginal S&B" bags however are Toppits brand bags for preparing food in an oven. The first couple years they put the original Toppits branded packs in the cartons and sold them on their site, few years later they had their own brand. Bags look and feel the same, packing is exactly the same, except for the design, that clearly is a private label packing of the same product. They are meant to be used in an oven and nothing else, and they are rated 230°C which is nearly 450°F.

    But you are right of course, better to be critical and not trying to save at the wrong end. With the Toppits brand I'd be sure enough to recommend them, but this doesn't go for all brands. I've also seen that the chicken bags I commented on are recommended for all sorts of different purposes, including deep freezing. Who knows if they are coated with something else and are more likely to cause a problem. You are right to point this out, thanks for that!
     
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  7. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys,

    Do you think that's possible to make an "allglass setup" to the Extrem Q using a drop down adapter instead of the whip tube ? Just like this (but with a "wider" one) :

    [​IMG]

    And in the idea of getting a "Ddave mod like" (i'm in deep Europe) i was wondering using a watertool adapter instead of the EQ's native elbow, correct choice ? :

    [​IMG]

    Thanks
     
  8. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    How about just buy a cheap hydratube from dhgate, and then you have and all glass path....

    The eq works very well with a ht....
     
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  9. stonedbob

    stonedbob 100% THC

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    well, you can try to use some of the Nectar Collectors from DHGate:
    http://www.dhgate.com/product/necta...-14mm/248129773.html#s1-4-1b;searl|0863148986
    http://www.dhgate.com/product/free-...eless/391245981.html#s1-6-1b;searl|0863148986
    http://www.dhgate.com/product/high-...r-kit/389561747.html#s1-8-7b;searl|0863148986

    with my nectar collector it looks like that:
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    with a better mouthpiece it will be more comfortable...

    edit:
    the hydratube is great too!
     
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  10. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    Yes good Idea, but i'm still in fear putting water just over the E.Q., especially when i'm pretty high in the evening..
    But anyway i'm gonna try this..
     
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  11. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    The same risk applies to the more expensive evo...
    Yet we all do it... because the risk is minimal in reality...
    I was always worried about putting water above the eq...

    Once you have a ht, you learn that the water does not come out very easily, you would have to blow down it to force some out, and the tubes have a dry section at the bottom to catch any stray liquid...

    Also a rule for evo users is, dont leave you tube on your evo (or eq in this case)....
    The same applies, have your go, the detach and sit them down next to each other... not on top...

    It becomes second nature...

    I wish I got a ht for my eq a year ago...
     
  12. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I'm a full ROOKIE however the Q is kicking my shiny metal ass!
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    FUCK?
    The Q is powerful @kellya86 .
    @Dr. Soxhlet you weren't kidding?
    I never tried bags however the fan is perfect for pushing through a water rig!
    Keeping it real!

    CIVILIZED = SOMETIMES?
     
  13. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    @DDave v3 is nearly here...
     
  14. stonedbob

    stonedbob 100% THC

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    i also use the fan to preheat the unit before using... need to heat up the glass in order to get full power!
    the EQ is powerful indeed!
     
  15. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    My q on fan 3 can just about bubble my turbine ht on its own...
     
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  16. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I love @DDave !
    Kit 3 really?
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    4 a low budget device this thing keep's you on a cloud?

    The "Q" is a kick your butt device.
     
  17. Dr. Soxhlet

    Dr. Soxhlet SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine

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    I like to mix it up I have a D020 and PWT. I use both at the end of tubing, sometimes with the fan, sometimes without. The bag gives you a totally different vaping experience. Yes the EQ with DDave kit is one of the best vapes going, especially if the price is considered. Reliability is also something to be consisered as well as easy parts accessability. I have had mine over five years now.
     
  18. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    After @kellya86 explained that heat soaking concept to me, I'm getting quite fond of this machine. It's less of a kerfuffle than DeVerdamper, and it looks so less methlabby, and the elbow viping is just perfectly my tiny little dose in two, three nice little hits. I bought a silicone tube which is way more flexible than the original one and the mouthpiece/bong-connector is a 14 mm male/male adapter. Nice-o. I can close the dome screens with a 12 mm screen (remember the combusting AmaZed one-hitter?) so I can spike my herbs with a little old fashioned dusty skuff. Or just have them lying around for that extra easy evening. Or pack a really small one-hitter. Nice-o indeed. I should give things more time before judging. This one's a keeper.
     
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  19. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    The EQ is a fantastic home unit, super robust and easy to use, plus it's serviceable
    Modded it puts out some hefty vapour!

    I am interested to know what you mean by "Cucumber Glass Version" in your sig with regard to De Verdamper? :)
    Sounds interesting and a quick google didn't turn anything up.
     
  20. Hammahead

    Hammahead Well-Known Member

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    The Cucumber Glass is what you see here next to the fancy hookah style glassware:

    [​IMG]

    I have the huge one on the right side. I seem to be doing something right with the cork, as I'm still using the one that came with it, some 13? years ago. Being the self-loathing pessimist that I am I thought I'd break the glass anyway, that's why I also have a replacement heating element sitting here for all those years. Let the apocalypse come, all I need is a photovoltaic 12V setup and some seeds ;)
     
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  21. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    ahhh pickled vapour. That's quite neat actually
     
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  22. ataxian

    ataxian PALE BLUE DOT

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    I have so many vaporizer?

    CANNABIS is the aim.
    CIV
    Turkey Bag's = I can tell many story's about them!
    [​IMG]
    The bottle of flowers and KIEF are not only BUBBLE GUM?
    My wife has me on rations because I'm abusing my CANNABIS privileges!

    Being one step ahead:"Took all my stray jars of CANNABIS and mixed them with a gram of KIEF!" The Q was heat-sinked to my TEMP + my mixed stuff.

    Finally I'm CIVILIZED like I should be!

    INDICA + SATIVA + HYBRID = CANNABIS

    The AIR ASSIST on the Q! (love it!)
     
  23. MrMonss

    MrMonss Well-Known Member

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    Where's the spider ?
    :)
    Have a great day !
     
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  24. JBO

    JBO Member

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    Hey everyone, so I just got my Extreme Q yesterday and I'm loving the heck out of this thing! I'm new to vaping, I've been getting great results because of all you guys here on FC (Big Thanks :tup:) but my question is how does my abv look? Does it look like I'm extracting everything? Thanks for the help.
    [​IMG]

    Also MrMonss love the pacifier idea to block the crumbs!! Definitely gonna steal that idea! Lol:brow:. It doesn't get to hot and stink or anything?
     
  25. little maggie

    little maggie Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad it's working for you. I was surprised you didn't think it was good for solo users. To me (with Ddave's mods) it works better than my logs solo.
     
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