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The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by Rockwise, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering how you all warm up your EQ... do you set it at the temp you want it at and then warm up or do you set it at max temp and adjust down?... usually i warm on max, empty w/ elbow on and turn down just a little before i load the elbow...

    yes i pre-heat w/ elbow on at 255-260c w/ the piece of cotton ball in it(some times when pre-heating i turn the fan on high w/ an empty bowl.. not sure it helps but i feel it heats up the glass parts faster???)... and then i put a drop in the middle of the cotton ball and cap it up... what i did was turn on the fan on high and watch till it was shooting out vapor and then connected the bag... it takes a min to prime and soak in... first bag is the best... i was hesitant to use a cotton ball(don't like the idea) but since i got a molar pulled i can only use the bag rite now and needed an extra kick the herb alone didn't give... it worked out very nice for me... a dab really goes a long way but u don't get hits like you would from a nail... IMO id rather not use cotton but i'm hurtin and it works fine... the buzz was nice... i didn't notice it for a few mins after i finished the bag... then i was baked ha... Works for me... hitting it w/ a ligter would give a more intense feeling im sure... but it doesnt go nearly as far.. also you have to use a lighter:( haha.. Interesting Signature BTW

    Edit: i didn't use F3 the whole time... i think i started at F1 and went to F2 then to F3?? not sure if that affected it, let me know what you think... Also make sure the cotton ball is seated well on the screen and fits snug in the cyclone or it wont milk good...
     
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  2. Dark Kite

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  3. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    I would stick to water pieces that offer GonG joints. Otherwise you would have to rig up some type of ghetto connection to the downstem.

    :2c:
     
  4. oldiebutgoodie

    oldiebutgoodie Apostle, Church of Vaporization

    I agree with Stu. Stay with glass if you can afford to, even inexpensive glass is better than acrylic. And re the connection, you need it to be airtight. That means a whip OD that either fits snug thru the downstem (which must be open at the end, so no diffuser) or thru the grommet in place of the downstem, or some other mod.

    And of course this is strictly a matter of personal preference so just my two cents, but with a 40cm bong on the other end of a whip, you gotta have real good lungs. I have a 30cm tube with a 40mm ID; for myself and (experienced) friends, it's more work than we want to do. With the whip we prefer a smaller piece like a bubbler - if the goal is comfortable moisturizing/cooling, then the size of the water chamber and method of diffusion will be most important (plus possibly a design that allows adding ice).
     
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  5. FrogBoy138

    FrogBoy138 Well-Known Member

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  6. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    i made a real short water piece for my MFLB out of an acrylic tube, a pen tube and some surgical tube... i needed a small one for it... when i started using the EQ i would use it too and just attach the whip...i found it to be air tight enough, but it wasn't completely... one day i pulled out my glass beaker and set it up right w/ the glass fitting and iced it up... it was waaay more worth it... its a bigger piece(~10" +) than the one i made, it was never was practical for the MFLB... but glass is definitely the way to go... gives a cooler, more solid, tastier hit... the vapor from an iced glass bong is :drool:... nice deal on that link frogboy
     
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  7. MrNorml

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    Absolutely right. About the same price and one is (pardon me) a POS and the other is a respected glassware company and looks like a nice setup for those who prefer bongs to bubblers. Ice catcher. And the Q tubing 'should' fit right in there no problems... Tubing. Elbow jointgs. GonG. Although I must say the acrylic one might last like 30 years. Yumm 30 year old tasty plasticy water.
     
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  8. Dark Kite

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    Yeah you're probably right, I'm still am going to have to think about it because I needed something that was durable, as it would be moved around a lot, and glass pieces will break eventually. *sigh decisions decisions.
     
  9. Stu

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    You may want to consider the Steele Concept - Indestructible Designer Water Pipe.
    :peace:
     
  10. Dark Kite

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    As nice as that is. That is way out of my price range, but I decided not to get acrylic, but do you or anyone know maybe of a bubbler that I could get. I thought about what oldiebutgoodie said and maybe a smaller one would suit me better, and maybe I can protect it better. If not I may get what Frogboy recommended
     
  11. FrogBoy138

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    You know you really should go over to Cheap high-quality bubbler thread read that and if you need any more help ask. PS bubblers tend to cost more then small bongs. Quality bubblers run above $100 or small quality bongs for $70 get a travel tube from Soul shine family glass shipped for $70.
     
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  12. Buildozer

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    Ha, i was just going through that Soul Shine thread earlier... that travel straight tube seems nice... w/ the shower head down stem... the price seemed very reasonable for the looks of it... i'm considering this setup... even though i don't need it haha... really i just want to get a tree down stem or some nice type of diffusing down stem, but my down stem is long in my bong and those types seem hard to find in the right size... my current diffuser seems to be whatever, and doesn't cool the denser EQ hits as much as i would like... a bunch of ice pretty much solves that for me though.. i guess haa
     
  13. Dark Kite

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    Okay thanks guys you've been a great help
     
  14. FrogBoy138

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    I know it seems like the best place to start for cheap HQ glass I'm not out to buy art I need a daily driver. I really love the travel beaker I never wanted a beaker until I seen that one. But I bet it's still going to be a year before I can come up with the money to buy it. It just Stinks
     
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  15. Dark Kite

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  16. oldiebutgoodie

    oldiebutgoodie Apostle, Church of Vaporization

    Not spam at all - exchanging info and asking/answering questions is what the forum is all about. :)

    About this piece, how do you intend to connect to the Q? Looks like attaching the Q to the bong ground glass joint requires pulling the downstem, so if you want a GonG connection you'll need a different downstem, one which has a female connector on top instead of a bowl. Something like this (although I'm not quite certain from the description) . . .

    http://www.head-nature.com/tree/290...ticle/00672/18.8mm-joint-size-Connector.xhtml

    I noticed that these downstems don't have diffuser slits, so expect a lot of chug. Also, to make a GonG connection from the whip side just replace the stock mouthpiece with the second elbow.

    :2c:
     
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  17. Buildozer

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  18. Dark Kite

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    Dammit I thought when it said 18.8 that meant it could fit. (Im still new to waterpipes) so i need to find a new downstem is what your saying?
    It was a good deal until you factored in the shipping, but I'll be happy with it. Thank you Merry Christmas
     
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  19. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Yes, you'll need a downstem that has a 18.8mm female joint. They are quite common. Something like this would work. You just need to make sure you get the right length.

    :peace:
     
  20. m0sh

    m0sh Singer Song Writer Stoner

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    As my solo is dead for now...I can't wait to get the 14mm-18mm reducer and use my HT with the whip...

    What also is possible is the take 2 elbows and connect to each side of the tube then I could use my HT...did anyone try that? that would leave me with no mouthpiece just the HT.
     
  21. Dark Kite

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    Unfortunately it doesn't say the length, but i'll keep looking
     
  22. oldiebutgoodie

    oldiebutgoodie Apostle, Church of Vaporization

    IMO, yes. (Just as a double-check, be good if someone else chimed in here too . . . )

    Looks to me like the 18/19 female joint is at the end of the weld on the water bowl. The downstem fits through that joint, extending down into the bowl below the water line. For a glass-on-glass connection, and since this downstem has a bowl but not a joint, you would need to pull this downstem out and put a male GonG connector (attached other end to the whip) into the joint where the downstem was; but this won't really work. The typical solution is a downstem like this:

    http://aqualabtechnologies.com/glas...zob-glass-18-18-mm-diffused-downstem-5-0.html

    It has the 18 male to fit into the female joint on the bowl, and a 18 female to receive the GonG connector attached to the whip. Note that this downstem also has diffuser slits which will provide much more action than no diffuser.

    As I mentioned before, the GonG connector attached to the whip can be one of the Q's elbows or it can be an adapter made for this, like this one:

    http://aqualabtechnologies.com/aqua-lab-tech-18-mm-glass-vapor-hose-adapter.html

    Does that all make sense?

    EDIT: Be careful to get the right length downstem.

    EDIT: There you go again Stu, beating me to the punch. :D
     
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  23. Buildozer

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    i didn't even notice that it was chillum style... haa i guess that's what it meant when it said chillum haha.. i was wondering about that... once you get it set up it should b nice... how much was the shipping on it? I guess you'll just have to wait and measure it when you get it...

    EDIT: i'm finally able to hit my whip through my bong... i just have to be careful.. no more bags for now:D
     
  24. Dark Kite

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    It was around 50 after shipping, but I got an email saying they were unwilling to ship to the US, so I have to find another one. I was thinking this http://www.just4smokers.com/Scientific-Glass-12-4-Arm-Tree-Perc-Straight-Wate-p/v317-4cc.htm as I should be about to just use the second elbow joint to connect to it (right?).
     
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