Silver Surfer Vaporizer

[Clunis]

Canada Post's website says anything under $60 isn't subject to any fees. The two items come to $62.60 CDN, I'd imagine if any fees were applied they would be very minimal.

Considering the low chance of a substantial fee, I'll just go through 7th floor. This fatty wand needs a lot of herb (makes sense given the name) so I think in the meantime I'll see if a local headshop is carrying any standard wands.

 

[grokit]

Also if they put something like "broken item replacement, no charge" on the declaration,
that would let them know that you already paid the duty on the items.

Just say no to double jeopardy !

 

[Clunis]

I've been using my GG wand with the standard HC (GG HC was the broken piece) and it's working just fine for the time being for smaller loads.

Are there any online Canadian stores that sell SSV glass? I figure I'll get some backups.

[EDIT]: I found some in eBay and Vapornation (both are offering free shipping) , what are people thoughts on buying glass outside of 7th floor? Are there any websites that sell authentic 7th floor glass?

 

[ThCombustion]

Hi everyone. I am about to buy a SSV. I'm having a hard time deciding between the different styles of glass, standard, ground, or spherical. I really feel like for what I'll be using for and where, it would be best if it were hands free, but I'd like to have the option to free hand it.

My understanding is that only the ground glass is natively hands free. The hands free attachment for the standard is a piece of metal that honestly looks like it'd be frustrating to deal with and make stirring a chore. The spherical has something called a sick clip, which only has a single picture and no video demoing it, at least not that I could find.

I'm leaning towards the ground glass, but am worried as I can't recall ever reading a recommendation of the ground glass connection; though I can certainly remember quite a few negative, citing burn spots and more frequent stirring, and just not even coverage of the herb. Also some have said that if you are going for the ground glass you might as well get the DBV. I am wondering if this sentiment is shared by many, or do you feel that the SSV would perform better than the dbv, even with the ground glass?

I want the spherical, but am worried the clip will be difficult or cumbersome to use, as I'm a heavy toker and will probably reload several times a session. I have had a Purple Days and now a Sherlock Vapor Genie, which has ground glass connections and I have noticed an inconsistent color in the vaped material. Please help me out guys.

~ThC

 

[Frederick McGuire]

I've got standard and gong (not spherical gong) heater covers, and I honestly found myself using the gong more.

I stir after every single hit, regardless of the heater cover type, so I didn't find the gong to require any extra stirring than the standard.

The standard can give thicker vapor output given the narrower hole that the heated air is exiting, but I don't find it that much of a difference...

You've still kinda gotta keep a hand free for the wand, even with the ground glass, as the whip can pull and tug at the wand and pull it out of the joint, but you can use it hands free If you want.

I don't really see the point of the spherical hc tbh.
I really like how the setup works with my LSV, but with the SSV I don't see you choose it over the standard...

 

[Vitolo]

I use all 3 setups here, but the standard hand held gets the most use.
Remember GonG (hands free) does not mean you deal a card game or tap dance while vaping..
It means that while you are vaping, you can let go and wipe a tear of joy from your eye.
I hold on to wand most of the time, even when I use the "hands free" setup.... I remove hand to slide my glasses back up my nose.
I do not like to leave the wand plugged into the unit when I move.. it is a piece of glass inserted into another piece of glass at an angle, with a hose dangling from it.. and accident waiting to happen.. even if you coil the hose next to unit, leaving wand inserted does provide one extra slice of risk.
I think hands free GonG is OK as long as you do not take the term "hands free' too literally@!
You still do well to stir load between hits, also.
3 types of SSV setup

 

[Tweak]

I don't really see the point of the spherical hc tbh.

I enjoyed mine until it broke. It had the biggest chamber of all three wands, so it was so easy to stir w/o worrying about spilling any. It was airtight like the GG wand from just about any angle you choose, so no need to concentrate on the glass connection, you could just tell from feel. It's gives the hits like the GG but doesn't require you to insert glass into glass.

With the Standard wand, sometime my SSV will start moving on me from me pushing the wand up to the HC, or I sometimes don't make a tight connection because I'm afraid to push the unit back and I kinda hover in front of the HC.

All in all though I suggest the Standard wand because it is the cheapest to replace/have spares (which is important), gives the highest vapor-air ratio, and with my EQ screen mod, it can vape the smallest load of all three wands, and possible the smallest of all three units (SSV, DBV, and LSV), and have the cleanest debris free vapor.

 

[ThCombustion]

I use all 3 setups here, but the standard hand held gets the most use.
Remember GonG (hands free) does not mean you deal a card game or tap dance while vaping..
It means that while you are vaping, you can let go and wipe a tear of joy from your eye.
I hold on to wand most of the time, even when I use the "hands free" setup.... I remove hand to slide my glasses back up my nose.
I do not like to leave the wand plugged into the unit when I move.. it is a piece of glass inserted into another piece of glass at an angle, with a hose dangling from it.. and accident waiting to happen.. even if you coil the hose next to unit, leaving wand inserted does provide one extra slice of risk.
I think hands free GonG is OK as long as you do not take the term "hands free' too literally@!
You still do well to stir load between hits, also.
3 types of SSV setup

Thanks for the help guys. Vitolo you have directly and indirectly helped me pick out vapes several times. You once even took pictures showing me how to get the honey out of my glass VG by using alcohol. Thanks for all the help over the years.

I was wondering, because it generally seems like people recommend the standard over the spherical, but I never can figure out why they prefer it that way. Why is it that the standard gets more love?

 

[grokit]

The gong setup is the same as the ground glass setup.

I prefer the ground glass setup, because I can use it hands-free if I want,
even without the hands-free clip. That's what I used most often.
I have not tried the dbv but I can see how they could be quite similar that way.
I also like the standard wand, and use the oil kit and aromatherapy attachments.
I don't believe the dbv is as versatile as the ssv with this other stuff.

 

[ThCombustion]

I enjoyed mine until it broke. It had the biggest chamber of all three wands, so it was so easy to stir w/o worrying about spilling any. It was airtight like the GG wand from just about any angle you choose, so no need to concentrate on the glass connection, you could just tell from feel. It's gives the hits like the GG but doesn't require you to insert glass into glass.

With the Standard wand, sometime my SSV will start moving on me from me pushing the wand up to the HC, or I sometimes don't make a tight connection because I'm afraid to push the unit back and I kinda hover in front of the HC.

All in all though I suggest the Standard wand because it is the cheapest to replace/have spares (which is important), gives the highest vapor-air ratio, and with my EQ screen mod, it can vape the smallest load of all three wands, and possible the smallest of all three units (SSV, DBV, and LSV), and have the cleanest debris free vapor.

A good, informative answer. I will have to look up the EQ mod, as I haven't heard about it, but it has been awhile since I was on. Still interested in others opinions on why they may prefer the standard over the spherical or vice versa.

 

[Tweak]

It is the stock option, is the cheapest option, and gives the highest Vapor-to-air ratio of all three.

I broke my SGG (spherical ground glass) heater cover, the replacement is $28 vs the standard which is $15. The whole Standard wand + heater cover set only cost $35.

Edit:

I will have to look up the EQ mod

Check out my imgur ablum

I highly recommend it. Give you adjustable bowl size, moves the load much closer to the heat (lower temp), and stops 95% of the debris that would make there way through the standard screen.

With adjustable bowl, you control the distance from the heater so your results will be more consistent. No need to touch the temp dial with different size loads.

 

[Vitolo]

I was wondering, because it generally seems like people recommend the standard over the spherical, but I never can figure out why they prefer it that way. Why is it that the standard gets more love?

Standard wand allows precise aiming of the jet of hot air...
sort of like the stream of pee from a penis... it has force due to restriction.
Spherical although allowing some aiming, has a bigger hole, so it is a flow of hot air as opposed to a jet of hot air...
sort of like the stream of pee from a vagina... it has less force due to low restriction
Therefore, Standard allows a more precise direction of the "stream of pee" (Hot air jet)

 

[Tweak]

Nice analogy Vito,

 

[ThCombustion]

Check out my imgur ablum

I highly recommend it. Give you adjustable bowl size, moves the load much closer to the heat (lower temp), and stops 95% of the debris that would make there way through the standard screen.

With adjustable bowl, you control the distance from the heater so your results will be more consistent. No need to touch the temp dial with different size loads.[/quote



I just looked it up. I see what you mean. It is kind of like a little bowl for your bud. Is the best way to order the 4 pack of dome screens from the arizer website?[/quote][/quote]

 

[ThCombustion]

Standard wand allows precise aiming of the jet of hot air...
sort of like the stream of pee from a penis... it has force due to restriction.
Spherical although allowing some aiming, has a bigger hole, so it is a flow of hot air as opposed to a jet of hot air...
sort of like the stream of pee from a vagina... it has less force due to low restriction
Therefore, Standard allows a more precise direction of the "stream of pee" (Hot air jet)

Very creative analogy. Also a very effective one. I will have to get both eventually. I like to get accessories and have different options.

Since the spherical has a bigger hole and is a flow, more than a jet, would it vape a bowl more evenly?

 

[Vitolo]

More evenly in one way, but still requires a stir.
It vapes across the top more evenly... but the hot air makes less contact with the lower half of your load.

 

[Clunis]

I've noticed the 'Trusted friends and sponsors' websites at the bottom of FC: Vape World Vaporizers, Vapor Store and Puff It Up. What people's experience was (if any) with buying glass for their SSV outside of 7th floor? I wouldn't mind having a few spares around

 

[Vitolo]

I have purchased glass from all of them.
SSV wands are SSV wands, no matter who you choose to buy from.
All sell the "real thing".

 

[c0rpse]

I picked up a beautiful SSV that I posted about a few pages back. I really like the monster clouds I was getting off of it, but I couldn't get satisfying vapbong hits. Being primarily a bong smoker, I went back to smoking after a week. My local shop just got a shipment of LSV's. I picked one up and I love it. It definitely suits my needs much better. I guess I am going to try and sell the SSV. It's very pretty but I don't see my self getting much use out of it.

 

[Vitolo]

A backup vaporizer never hurts.

 

[ThCombustion]

Mostly to bumb the thread I'll let everyone know I bought my SSV Friday afternoon. I went with the rainbow zen with a black base. I got the 3 day shipping but I find most places processing time tends to make faster shipping useless, but it was only 5 dollars more for it so I figured it might get it here faster. I live in Texas. I hope that gets it to me a bit faster.

I'm hoping there won't be much of a learning curve, as my main vape for almost two years now has been the Vapor Genie glass sherlock. The vapes seem to wok on the same basic principle and the control necessary to use the VG seems parallel to that for the SSV. Anyone have experience with both? As most are, I'm really excited! I always hate waiting to get something in the mail. It makes each day pass more slowly than the last.

~ThCombustion

 

[grokit]

The glass sherlock is the most combustion pipe-like experience I have tried.
They're both convection, but really the comparison ends there imo.
You'll see that the ssv is quite different, enjoy !

 

[Tweak]

A backup vaporizer never hurts.

Just one?

I'm hoping there won't be much of a learning curve, as my main vape for almost two years now has been the Vapor Genie glass sherlock.

My only issue was muscle memory. Learning to juggle holding the whip, the wand and not blowing into the whip. Throwing a water pipe into the mix makes it even trickier, as you have to lift the WPA before you stop drawing or the back pressure of the water settling could blow stuff out of your wand.

 

[Clunis]

Lovin' riding the wave, I'm already considering getting one for my brother's for his birthday

In regards to the EQ bowl mod: how do you remove the rim from the EQ screen?

 

[ThCombustion]

The glass sherlock is the most combustion pipe-like experience I have tried.
They're both convection, but really the comparison ends there imo.
You'll see that the ssv is quite different, enjoy !

At first this was an issue for me, over the couple years though, I feel like I have my technique down and I rarely combust in my VG, medium dark brown avb. I use a Colibri Connaught. It has ruined two of these, but the pipe lighter, with the flame coming out of the side makes it much easier to control how the VG vapes. All I was saaying though is the drawing technique should be similar. I am honestly tired of the hassle of the VG. If the fan is on, or a Lot of the time even the ac , will move the flame around too much and it can be hard to use. Also, it often sucks cause then I have to turn off the ac to vape and it gets hot quickly here.