note: this thread goes way off topic till about post #27. Let's talk about the SSV! Clean convection, streamlined design, efficient, durable, customizable. Solid anodized aluminum, custom borosilicate glass parts and accessories, fully-encased alumina ceramic heater, thick swappable acrylic base. Review in the works. This thing is well made and hits hard! I'm using it right now. With this ice chamber / vapor bong which cools, filters and moisturizes the vapor This one was made by the same people who make the SSV. note: this thread goes way off topic till about post #27.