Hey thanks for your replies fellas! I was looking at the press from scrappy tire for $199 on sale but think i'll spend a bit more and get something a bit higher quality... just read some reviews of leaks/problems and my budget is probably twice that for the press itself. Maybe that's why it has been discontinued? I'm not a big canadian tire fan (love their 70% off MSRP sales ) so i'll check out princess auto. I was 100% going with the caged plates after researching and decided on timewizardgreyfox caged plates but he's MIA so now i'm reconsidering and may just go uncaged with Cannaplates.ca. It's hard to know who to believe about what, so i'm just going to educate myself as much as possible before investing. I SO wish I could just RENT a press from a dispensary or something so I can press my stash and move on since I can buy rosin cheaper than I can buy flower and squish it (with time, press, etc). Those are great yields but when I start pressing i'm going for quality over yields, even if I end up with sub 20% yields. I guess it's a fine line with temps, pressure, time etc. I'm expecting some REALLY crappy yields with all my outdoor and greenhouse strains! lol But when concentrated into rosin i'm sure they will taste heavenly.