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Parents That Vape

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by Bluntcrush, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. vapirtoo

    vapirtoo Well-Known Member

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    I always hid my weed from my young boys until they were in the 11th. grade.
    They said that they knew way back in the 8 th. grade , but always respected my space.
    Now they are 26 and 27 college grads and working( not in their field of study) in pretty decent jobs .
    They both have smoked and vaped but prefer Vodka.
     
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  2. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    Pshww!, Kids these days, huh?
     
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  3. 1DMF

    1DMF Old School Cheesy Quaver

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    I'm rather late to this thread, so apologies if I missed the answer while skimming the pages.

    I have a new son, and apart from the fact he's started to intensely stare at me when I'm ripping my bubbler, so need to remove myself from sight while consuming.

    My other concern as @lwien alludes to as the UK has banned smoking around children in the car and at home due to passive smoking, my concern is is there a thing such as passive vaping?

    Obviously I'm not blowing it in his face, and I thought the vapour simply dissipates, and there isn't an issue unlike how I grew up with 2 parents that both smoked and so was surrounded by a fog of passive smoke.

    I am concerned if there is such a thing as passive vapour and the affect this might have on a developing brain as it is now proven (apparently) that consuming cannabis before 18 can damage and stunt brain growth.

    Am I a bad parent and need to hide myself away from now on?
     
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  4. h3rbalist

    h3rbalist I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too

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    :shrug:

    If you shine a really bright LED in the room you vape in you'll see it doesn't clear and disspate as quick as you think.

    So based on that I don't vape in the same room as my kids. Not worth the risk. They're usually asleep anyway but if I did take a hit it would be out of sight and blown out the window or into my air con. No big deal imo.

    Crazy to think our parents would take us upstairs to the smoking area on a bus for a hour and think nothing of it. How times change eh?
     
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  5. 1DMF

    1DMF Old School Cheesy Quaver

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    Thanks @h3rbalist , I wasn't sure because within seconds of exhaling the vapour is no longer visible and there is no hazy fog floating around like there is with smoking.

    I guess it's always best to air on the side of caution with these things, like you say the attitudes between my parents generation and ours with regard to smoking is huge.
     
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  6. Ricardo

    Ricardo Well-Known Member

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    Health wise, I'd wager that you're doing no harm whatsoever, it's the meddling nanny state and risk of interference from social services I'd be worried about (if I was paranoid.... a neighbour, family member who doesn't approve, or wants to cause trouble). Just sayin' :peace:
     
  7. Gregori

    Gregori CannaBoss

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    Of course there's passive vaping. You should NEVER vape within car or home when there's a kid around.
     
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  8. GetLeft

    GetLeft Well-Known Member

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    Fell out of touch with the forum for a while. Busy days.

    Like what @ButterflySky says. While there may be some general do's and don'ts to live by, I believe that universal truths are hard to come by. So what works for one may not work for another.

    My years as a teenage stoner had their perks. Had their downside, too. I choose not to suggest to my 14 yr. old by my behavior that mj is perfectly fine for everyone. Because it's not. It's not even perfectly fine for me. But I'm better able to calculate the pros and cons for myself than he is for himself. Some day he will. But not because his dad did it.
     
  9. yogoshio

    yogoshio Annoying Libertarian

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    Just curious, since what is exhaled from vaporization has removed at least 95% of THC and other substances, why is it so dangerous around minors? In a car, maybe, as generally the air quantity is limited and in warm environments recirculated. But a house? I find that hard to swallow. That might be your personal feelings, but I am hard pressed to believe that it would be harmful to others. All that's there is 99.9% inert vapors, and while it might be in the air and affect smells, it is not active or harmful.

    It's not like a cigarette or even a joint where when things are still burning active ingredients directly into the air. Obviously smoke has many more carcinogens in the 2nd hand, but that doesn't carry over IMO.
     
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  10. Gregori

    Gregori CannaBoss

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    Simply because less harmful than smoke doesn't mean 100% safe. If for some reason you can't avoid vaping inside while there are children around, do it. But it is no rocket science to understand that a vapor free/smoke free environnement is better for children.
     
  11. yogoshio

    yogoshio Annoying Libertarian

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    I guess I just find a difficult time finding the difference between vapor from pan searing vegetables. Both cook and release particulates, but we don't care about searing 15x the amount of kale in the same space. Should we stop cooking in house as well?

    Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to figure out the difference between the two.
     
  12. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    I guess it depends on how much vaporizing we're talking about around children. I've vaped with a few folk before and the room had a visible amount of vapor hanging off the ceiling AND my cloths smelled from it. On the other hand - hitting a non-cloud producing vape for 4 hits or so in a well ventilated room is probably no biggie.

    I get what you're saying about pan searing too. I have made blackened salmon and set off the smoke detectors. If a kid were in the same room I'd suggest they leave. A little pan searing without the smoke detector going off....I doubt I'd worry.

    The one thing that isn't debatable is whether you make those decisions for your kid or mine/someone elses.
     
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  13. yogoshio

    yogoshio Annoying Libertarian

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    I am not trying to make a decision for someone else, but I also want to see what the reasons are. Questioning thinking is not ridiculing or belittling, its just a question.

    If there is something smoking, then that is obviously harmful. I don't consider that to be even remotely close to vapor. Pan searing vegetables without burning I think is much, much closer, and also not harmful.

    Cooking over a natural gas oven alone is putting more harmful materials into the air, so I am hard pressed to believe that vaporizing is even remotely harmful when you consider the dilution into the air of the house. Even the plastics used on electric ovens off gas materials which are considered harmful when in high enough concentrations. Yet, we haven't seen an epidemic of professional cooks with lung cancer.:2c:
     
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  14. AcidWolf

    AcidWolf Member

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    If you are really worried about the vapor in the air, you could get some type of carbon air filter fan to turn on when you are vaping and maybe leave on for a little while after. Even though just turning on a ceiling fan and opening a window and door will remove most vapor in a room fairly quickly. TBH what most kids in America eat is way worse than anything a little vapor lingering in a room would do.
     
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  15. Mirimi

    Mirimi Well-Known Member

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    I don't think second-hand vapor would be harmful health-wise, even for little kids. But since there are not many studies, it's not really hard to change rooms or open a window. Way easier than protecting your kids of the ambient pollution, which is I agree way more worrying. Doesn't mean taking a few more precautions hurts in any way.

    However, what bothers me in vaping near kids would be the psychoactive elements remaining in the vapor. The reports on these forums are variable, but some people mentioned getting high by inhaling it. Kids are more sensitive and their brains are still developing. Not to mention the possible consequences in case of a legal procedure, if traces of THC should be found in them.
     
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  16. Gregori

    Gregori CannaBoss

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    I think the main différence between cooking and vaping is that you can't avoid eating .
     
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  17. TheWhisper

    TheWhisper Well-Known Member

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    But you can avoid cooking, if you follow a strict raw diet or only ingest Soylent.
     
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  18. Gregori

    Gregori CannaBoss

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    And avoid dishes with single use plates.
     
  19. mestizo

    mestizo Well-Known Member

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    And let's not forget the fact that not everyone likes the smell of raw, vaped, or smoked MJ, that alone should be reason enough not to vape around not only kids, but people who are put off by it, there's no coincidence that some of the strain have names like cat piss, garlic, skunk and dog shit to name a few.
    I don't mind my own farts, but nobody else seem to like them, so I relieve myself when no one is around.

    Edit: just want to be clear that I don't consider all MJ to have offensive smell, some can be very nice like incense, but some strains can be offensive to some, and some smokers/vapers take that as a badge of honor, the stinkier the better.
     
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  20. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    And we thank you for your discretion . . . :lol:
     
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  21. TripMan

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    My mom is almost 65 and was always anti weed when her step sons smoked. Well I never smoked all my life till 5 months ago I got a prescription for 3 symptoms and I just started telling everyone about it. I just mention it normally in conversations because no one can say anything negative about it to me because I get it legally. Looks like I really got her interested in it. When I call her all she talks about is research she did into weed and it's health properties lol. Last time I called her we talked about weed for 2 hours straight. So i think the next step is bringing it over and smoking with her.
     
  22. jackmormon

    jackmormon Well-Known Member

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    Do it! My mom lives in a retirement community built around a golf course. Her and her friends look forward to my visits and gifts ;) The first time was a trip when about 7 of them decided it was time for some golf cart antics. Almost an injury but we all survived intact!
     
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  23. Bad Ocelot

    Bad Ocelot Well-Known Member

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    Regarding vaping indoors, I think it's likely a question of degree of exposure. Basically, how much are you vaping? If it's a few hits in the evening & a couple on weekend afternoons, it probably isn't going to contribute significantly to the particulate matter etc in the air in your house. If you're vaping all day everyday, it may well cause a significant increase in some things you may not want children inhaling.

    However, as long as they aren't in the immediate vicinity of the vapor, I doubt it's going to have any appreciable effect. Boomers & GenXers survived many a smoke filled room, cars with no seatbelts, lawn darts etc. I have trouble believing a minute amount of passive vapor is going to affect anyone's lung function. It certainly can't be worse than firing up the old cast iron skillet a couple times a week.
     
  24. Gregori

    Gregori CannaBoss

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    If you have trouble believing passive vapor will affect anyone 's lung function, you should at least apply the precautionary principle.
     
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  25. Bad Ocelot

    Bad Ocelot Well-Known Member

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    Certainly. Hence the qualifying phrase "a minute amount." If one is alternately dabbing & hitting the forced air convection vape all day then of course that will affect the airborne particulate matter in their immediate surroundings. But if your use is on the lower end of the spectrum things like pets, weather conditions, cooking, etc are going to be far more significant contributors to indoor air quality than vaping and any efforts to reduce particulate matter, VOC's, etc would likely be better spent elsewhere.

    All this being said, I run at least two HEPA air purifiers in my home at all times despite being on the lower end of the usage scale.
     
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