My secret to THC E-Cig PG-Liquid... Potent, Effective, Cheap, Easy!!!

Grow Goddess

Oil Snob
no secrets here, just some fresh QWISO made into e-cannabis oil by simply adding a bit of Kosher PG/USP.

Now it is time to step up with the big boys. This is a Griffin RTA, rebuildable tank automizer. It is dual coil, I used 24 gauge kanthal wire at 8 wraps for each coil. This gave me a resistance value of around 0.3 ohms. After using it a bit it is now at 0.5 ohms. The Griffin is not for the beginner. If experimenting with one of these for the first time, I recommend using e-cig oil or plain VG until you get the hang of it. The proper wicking can be a challenge.

Here is the coil build:
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Here is the Griffin filled mounted to my KangerTech Mini Platinum Mod:
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The Griffin offers unbelievably smooth, tasty draws.
 

Hyphy

Karma
PEG400 is the solvent

Isn't PEG a carrier liquid, as opposed to a solvent? I am under the impression that inhaling solvent isn't great for lungs and is one of the reasons why people are nervous about CC. Someone correct me if I'm off base..

Can i use my kangertech rba deck with the tank to do dabs?

Umm, you can use a screwdriver to bang in a nail but using a hammer is much better. While I'm sure dabs can be done with a tank, do yourself a favor and grab a dab pen like kandypens galaxy or put an atty on your mod like a KISS, divine tribe, source orb or something.

Now it is time to step up with the big boys. This is a Griffin RTA,

Cool, I ordered one of those as well. I thought that the juice flow control on it may really help with fine tuning to the viscosity of each c-juice batch. Prob take me a few weeks to get it up and running though. Got some some concentrates winterizing as we speak. I'll be following your builds.
 

caro-line

Member
I just found that video
and I just wonder, if it is possible to make e-juice with that hash-o-rosin method.
Of course, I wouldn't use €5 hash but some really good stuff.
What do you think guys?
 
caro-line,

caro-line

Member
I'm pretty sure you can use rosin concentrate for c-juice, though I personally haven't tried it.

Yeah, I saw people saying here that rosin concentrate can be used in liqweed but they had made the concentrate of nugs, and this video is about making rosin from regular hash.
Just wonder if good hash is also suitable to make rosin concentrate, and then this rosin make into e-juice.
 
caro-line,

Hyphy

Karma
@caro-line it will prob be best to use 'good' hash/keif as is rather than converting to a concentrate. Too much loss compared to the starting product. It can be done though.
 
Hyphy,

Filhote

Well-Known Member
With qwet, it works fine with good...or Bad Hash...i try it with all kinds of Material. For me qwet and than PEG 400 and PG works wonderful. Clear, clean and a different Flash.
 
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rewound

New Member
you guys gotta try the Potion, its made from cannabis terpenes and works wayyy better then ejmix. It mixes perfectly and its super potent, a couple puffs and it'll have you on your ass. Check it out ThePotion.ca they ship all over
 
rewound,

Grow Goddess

Oil Snob
you guys gotta try the Potion, its made from cannabis terpenes and works wayyy better then ejmix. It mixes perfectly and its super potent, a couple puffs and it'll have you on your ass. Check it out ThePotion.ca they ship all over

Looked it up and couldn't get past the first paragraph without wanting to puke. That is not cannabis terpenes, I assure you. It is similar terpenes from other plants to try to mimic the cannabis terpenes. I would have to know every single plant they extracted those terpenes from and then do some extensive research before even considering using that product. Based upon the first paragraph, those terpenes were not extracted from any cannabis plant.

I am very familiar with authentic cannabis terpenes. If you have an authentic cannabis terpene extract, you can put one drop on a wound or toothache and it will instantly cure the pain better than any product I have ever heard of. The terpene extract I have used was a full extract from cannabis buds. I used no heat and did my best to preserve all of the terpenes during the process and then allowed it to cure for 120 days (naturally decarb). If you possess the real terpenes in an extract and it is decarbed, potentially, one drop can keep you medicated for up to 72 hours.

I highly doubt true cannabis terpenes are available to purchase from anywhere. Keep in mind, there are well over 100 terpenes in the cannabis plant. So a company mimicking 5 terpenes that are in cannabis is not enough for me to purchase. That is a joke to just go mix 5 terpene extracts together. Anyone can do that with essential oils. I do however recommend reading up on them before just mixing it into your vapor oils.

I try to stay away from products that do not disclose all that is in the product. Such as EJ Mix, what exactly is in it? I won't use it, and I have not had the need to anyway. What is wrong with just using some Kosher PG/USP? If your extract is good and clean it should stay mixed just fine for 2 weeks when using an alcohol extract. I do not have experience with BHO.
 
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Prospector

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Apologies for interrupting but would anyone know what might cause a stale, almost 'resin-y' taste from a CO2 pen cartridge?

It still fires but the once very prevalent strawberry flavor is gone and I'm starting to feel the hits more in my throat. I'm only about 40 drags in; and though I do see condensation (juice?) in the air path, it's still producing vapor.

I've been told it might be 'coil gunk'? Wondering if I should see it through or transport the remains.Using a 3.6V, 5.5W, 2.36ohm eVic Mini.
 
Prospector,

Grow Goddess

Oil Snob
Apologies for interrupting but would anyone know what might cause a stale, almost 'resin-y' taste from a CO2 pen cartridge?

It still fires but the once very prevalent strawberry flavor is gone and I'm starting to feel the hits more in my throat. I'm only about 40 drags in; and though I do see condensation (juice?) in the air path, it's still producing vapor.

I've been told it might be 'coil gunk'? Wondering if I should see it through or transport the remains.Using a 3.6V, 5.5W, 2.36ohm eVic Mini.

I can't really comment on your CO2 pen cart, I have never used one. I have only worked with alcohol concentrates. However, I would agree that coil gunk could be the issue, but something else comes to mind. With that mixture having the flavoring added, well I have found that when I add flavoring to my mix, the flavoring gets vaped out fist. I have had to add a drop or two before my concentrate is gone from the tank, and that is normal. My thoughts with your situation is that yes, you are exhausting the flavoring and tasting the PEG400 or another additive like PEG600. I have read that PEG400, and/or other chemicals are added to the CO2 mix to thin the concentrate and to keep the concentrate infused for a longer period of time. Which would be the reason for the added flavorings. I for one would want to know exactly what is in that mix before using it.

When I am using my ecannabis, and it has been working great, then suddenly it starts tasting burnt and not tasting as good, after going through a few grams, that is a good indicator that the wicks are plugged up.

Question: What type of tank would you be transporting the remains into to use with your eVic mini? Without knowing the thickness of your concentrate, it is difficult to recommend what to do.

All in all, I always say, make your own concentrate. I prefer alcohol extractions for the simplicity. With a good, clean alcohol extract, mix in some PG/USP and you are good to vape.
 

Prospector

Active Member
I can't really comment on your CO2 pen cart, I have never used one. I have only worked with alcohol concentrates. However, I would agree that coil gunk could be the issue, but something else comes to mind. With that mixture having the flavoring added, well I have found that when I add flavoring to my mix, the flavoring gets vaped out fist. I have had to add a drop or two before my concentrate is gone from the tank, and that is normal. My thoughts with your situation is that yes, you are exhausting the flavoring and tasting the PEG400 or another additive like PEG600. I have read that PEG400, and/or other chemicals are added to the CO2 mix to thin the concentrate and to keep the concentrate infused for a longer period of time. Which would be the reason for the added flavorings. I for one would want to know exactly what is in that mix before using it.

When I am using my ecannabis, and it has been working great, then suddenly it starts tasting burnt and not tasting as good, after going through a few grams, that is a good indicator that the wicks are plugged up.

Question: What type of tank would you be transporting the remains into to use with your eVic mini? Without knowing the thickness of your concentrate, it is difficult to recommend what to do.

All in all, I always say, make your own concentrate. I prefer alcohol extractions for the simplicity. With a good, clean alcohol extract, mix in some PG/USP and you are good to vape.

Excellent! Thank you much. I'm thinking what you are describing is what has happened. It's still producing vapor, and I'm hearing air pass through the inlets and noticing the reservoir empty, but the taste unfortunately isn't so good anymore (and there's still 3/4 left). Maybe the atomizer isn't wicking correctly and I'm getting dry hits? Maybe my draws are too large? Alternating the voltage doesn't do anything either. I'm noticing more condensation in the air path, as well.

Well, it was interesting to try and I'll be avoiding these in the future. I'm not sure if I'll just finish it or transfer it or find some other use (sadly though my experiences with vaping juices have not been so good).
 

JBO

Member
Help please!
I made my own thcjuice and it started out awesome! So my mix was 2g of shatter concentrate and I mixed that with .8g of CC tangerine natural solution, so a ratio of .4:1 CC to concentrate. I heated it up using the double boiler method and everything seemed fine, I let it sit and cool to a honey like consistency which seemed just right. I let the mix sit overnight in the shot glass I mixed in and in the morning I filled my vaporesso Gemini tank. Still seemed great. So I keep the mod in a case in my pocket to keep it from getting dirty. About 2.5 hours into my shift I go to hit it at break and the mix almost looked like milk mixing with something but it hit like a tank and tasted great and very smooth. So by the end of the day the mix still looks the same and after I get home I take it out of my pocket and let it sit and it starts to seperate. So I followed CC instructions and a few drops and let it sit over night in hopes it would remix. Now it's completely seperated and almost seems like it may have changed something with the concentrate. Since then I have reheated and remixed the solution, it is better but still not like the first consistency, it's almost like sandy now. So does anybody know does keeping this in your pocket mess with the terpenes and cause seperating? If so how do you guys carry yours around? Any help at all will be appreciated! Thank you all for all your work so far, it has been great!!
After I first added it to the tank.
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Before I decided to reheat and mix
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The case
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macbill

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I've been using CC for awhile and that type of separation has never occurred in my batches. I can't imagine what is happening based on your photos. Good luck, and welcome.
 
macbill,

JBO

Member
Thanks macbill, just got off the phone with Drew from CC and he said it doesn't look like I heated or up enough to fully blend the two, he was very helpful and I'm going to use his advice and hope it helps! Also has anyone using the vaporesso ccell coils experienced and leaking from the bottom of the coil? Could be because my mixture too..
 

kingtut106

Well-Known Member
Do people prefer EJ mix or USP Kosher PG when mixing with BHO?

I'll be using it in a sub ohm tank, organic cotton with a vertical coil.
 
kingtut106,

Grow Goddess

Oil Snob
Do people prefer EJ mix or USP Kosher PG when mixing with BHO?

I'll be using it in a sub ohm tank, organic cotton with a vertical coil.

I have a half ass answer for you.

Since I don't have experience with BHO, don't hold me to it, but there is a good possibility that adding only 1 drop of EJ mix per gram of solution may keep it infused with the PG for about a week or two. Other than that, I have heard of people using PEG400, which I do not like because it tastes horrible and you have to add flavoring. I do know of people that have used BHO winterized with alcohol and used a homogenizer and mixed it with VG and had good results. The mix held for 2 weeks and sometimes longer. I am sure a homogenizer would mix it with PG no problem.

It seems to me that BHO winterized with grain alcohol should mix with PG/USP just fine. At least for a week or two.

Please let us know how it works out for you.
 
Grow Goddess,

Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
Thanks macbill, just got off the phone with Drew from CC and he said it doesn't look like I heated or up enough to fully blend the two, he was very helpful and I'm going to use his advice and hope it helps! Also has anyone using the vaporesso ccell coils experienced and leaking from the bottom of the coil? Could be because my mixture too..
I'm using Vaporesso kanthal 0.9 Ohm coils without leaking (still on my first coil though, as I rarely resort to the e-cig)

EDIT:
My mix is around 4/5 Vapeur extract to 1 concentrate, and is a maple syrup consistency, so slightly thinner than honey or golden syrup.
Aspire atlantis V1
 
Copacetic,

JBO

Member
Yes it was a brand new tank and coil. Thanks Copacetic I was hoping you would respond cause I seen you were one of the few using them. I'm thinking I might have messed up the seal on my coil from taking it in and out a couple times. I just ordered the kangertech CL 4.0 which is just like the cubis so I will see if that helps out.
 

mooseball

New Member
hi guys, do any of you recognize this?

its supposed to be THC liquid and it does get you extremely stoned, but have never known it be transparent with white floaty bits before? :



also, it leaves white floaty bits in your tank even more after vaping, think its to do with it mixing with the e-nicotine:



i would really appreciate help as i am concerned if this is normal or not
 
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kingtut106

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I have a half ass answer for you.

Since I don't have experience with BHO, don't hold me to it, but there is a good possibility that adding only 1 drop of EJ mix per gram of solution may keep it infused with the PG for about a week or two. Other than that, I have heard of people using PEG400, which I do not like because it tastes horrible and you have to add flavoring. I do know of people that have used BHO winterized with alcohol and used a homogenizer and mixed it with VG and had good results. The mix held for 2 weeks and sometimes longer. I am sure a homogenizer would mix it with PG no problem.

It seems to me that BHO winterized with grain alcohol should mix with PG/USP just fine. At least for a week or two.

Please let us know how it works out for you.

I'm thinking of going the terpene option instead of using PEG, VG, PG. I'm hoping the viscosity won't be an issue in a tank. Is CC the best option?
 
kingtut106,

psychonaut

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hi guys, do any of you recognize this?

its supposed to be THC liquid and it does get you extremely stoned, but have never known it be transparent with white floaty bits before? :

https://i.imgsafe.org/a47aacd.jpg

also, it leaves white floaty bits in your tank even more after vaping, think its to do with it mixing with the e-nicotine:

https://i.imgsafe.org/2cd3680.jpg

i would really appreciate help as i am concerned if this is normal or not

Is that a glass or plastic tank? Sorry I have no idea what that is. I get little bits that stick to the walls of my glass tank. It looks nothing like your picture though. I assume mine is oil that's separated from the ejmix and reconcentrated.
 
psychonaut,

mooseball

New Member
Is that a glass or plastic tank? Sorry I have no idea what that is. I get little bits that stick to the walls of my glass tank. It looks nothing like your picture though. I assume mine is oil that's separated from the ejmix and reconcentrated.

hi

thank you for replying. it is a glass tank. there are small particles like the one on the glass tank in my thc oil, but they seem to become much more obvious once mixed with the e-liquid nicotine. i am homeful these are terpenes or plant wax - i hope!

have you ever seen thc oil as in my first picture? a transparent substance? or have you only ever seen a coloured version?

its getting me so high and its so fun, currently smoking lime cookie dough flavoured thc! but im really worried about why i am the only person who has seen this stuff, at least where i am from
 
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