My secret to THC E-Cig PG-Liquid... Potent, Effective, Cheap, Easy!!!

Hi all,

First time poster... Let me start by saying I have been lurking these forums, among others, for a long time trying to perfect the concept of using a standard E-Cig as a delivery method for THC. I have tried and failed many times, to finally figure out the secret. I am returning the knowledge I have gained with my concept on the best way to achieve this.

I have a "Riva 510" e-cig. There are many just like it. I use it for nicotine mainly. It consists of 2 parts. Battery and tankomizer. The tank I use is called a "CE4+". Highly recommended for nic use. When I want to vape THC, I just unscrew the tankomizer and screw on my THC "cartomizer". The solution I fill the carts with is PG based mixed with CO2 Oil. I vape 3-5 hits and I am blown away high. This is perfect for traveling, stealth, and medicating in areas where legally you could not before.

Note: I believe USP Kosher PG (Propylene Glycol) to be safe to vape. If you are not comfortable, do your own research. I might post links to things explaining why it is safe later. Also, I am not trying to start a debate on PG based vapes vs. pure oil style vapes. I find this method to be FAR more convenient and less messy than pure oil carts. I will also post product links later if needed.

You Need:
Riva 510 Battery - $20
Smoktech Dual Coil Low Resistance (1.5ohm) XL Cartomizers - 5 for $15
Charger - $10
CO2 (BHO would work too) hash oil
USP Kosher PG - $10 for a BIG bottle
Syringes for injecting the solution into the carts - $5
Heat surface or temp. controlled flat grill
Glass cup, Shot glasses, or chemistry tubes for mixing.

• I have experimented with different ratio's of PG : oil and I have found that 2:1 works very well. I heat the flat grill to 250-300 degrees F. I put a gram of oil into the shot glass, and put the shot glass into a slightly larger glass cup with some water. Similar to a double boil method, but without boiling. That cup goes on the flat grill. The water is displaced and comes up about halfway on the shot glass. The heat melts the hash oil to a nice amber sticky thick goo.

• I measure the PG (in this case I would try 1.5-2 mL) and mix it into the shot glass with the oil. Keep an eye on it and mix it for 15-30 min, until its completely blended. You don't want the mixture to bubble. If you are worried about heat, I place another cup filled with water on the heat, with a candy thermometer reading temperature. It usually stays around 150 deg.

• I suck up the solution with a syringe, and carefully inject it into the carts. You can use a dropper and drop the solution onto the polyfill in the carts too. You must do this while the solution is hot, because once it cools, the oil seems to separate from the PG. Once its in the polyfill, this no longer matters.

The carts hold 1.3-1.6 mL of liquid. Usually lasts anywhere from 100-200 good hits, can last for weeks of mild use before drying out. 2-3 hits and I'm medicated. I love it! I have not had any problems with the atty in the cart getting clogged, or leaking. I have been doing this for months with success!

I am trying to find a way to make the solution stay mixed even when cooled, and use it in the tankomizer. I am also testing other carts to find the best one to use. I have tried supplementing 20% of the PG with VG, to increase vapor production. It seems to work. I would like to try adding a flavoring while the solution is heating. Perhaps peppermint, to mask the oil smell and increase the stealth.

I couldn't really find this information in one place anywhere, so I thought I would share the whole picture. I encourage you to try, and report your results. If you have further information that will help direct my trials and errors, please post! I would like for this idea to take off!

Happy Vaping!

Bravo.

Hopefully someone with some chemistry knowledge like Fulvic could help find a different medium that doesn't result in separation at room temperature, but still excites the polyfill enough to help atomise the actives. But yeah, even if it takes a few years you've just made a lot of people very, very happy

http://forum.grasscity.com/toking-tools/702027-e-cigarettes-how-canna.html#post8828972

This is a full tutorial on how to make ecig with canna, flavorings and everything.

Does this work? I'm going to try this when i get my v2 ecig on tuesday

Honestly, pure concentrates are a lot more effective.

Yeah but it's a gram of some hash oil i might as well give it a shot and see how it goes. A gram of hash oil will give me like 500 tokes which is a lot so that would be nice.

The drawback is that ecig atomizers arent designed to work with some of the plant waxes and other impurities present in hash oil. While it will work for a while performance will steadily decline as the wicks clog with impurities, until the atomizer overheats and fails. Not telling you not to do it, just technology has surpassed this with more effective systems. If 500 hits a gram is something you want a low power omicron cart would be a better way to go imo. Something you may be to do with an adapter for your V2.

What ever you decide to go with, i hope you let us know how it works for you. Good luck.

you're my new god like dude.... Epic. Ive an ego-c with little "tanks" to fill with e juice, forget e juice. Although if you all could see my kitchen today after my SLIGHT blaze yesterday (bho went very wrong! Kitchen seems scortched) so im a liability lol. This forum seems very good. Thanks for existing (:
One question about vapeing in general, do any methods allow a user to reach 100% of cannabinoids available when combusting? I always get an "up" high from bho but a couchlock from the weed its from? Cheers

Running BHO inside is one of the dumbest things you can do. You should feel BAD and should never do this again. I'm being mean sure, but BHO explosions put people, their families, innocent people, and the reputation of cannabis being a safe substance at risk. STOP DOING IT.

We don't know for sure he did the running inside - he could have just accidentally sparked up some fumes coming out of the pan. Still not the best idea to bring a wet pan inside though. I don't think he would be posting here if he sparked up a whole runs worth of butane in an enclosed area.

After trying a ton of variants; tinctures, juices, oils, waxes, etc with my eGo and other off-brand hardware, I came to a conclusion as to what works for me. I take .5g of co2 oil and mix it with flavored PG mixtures from the local e-cig shop. Let it sit overnight with a strong strawberry or mint in the cart (I use an atomizer) and you're good to go for the next day.

I know that you need a double boiler to get it mixed properly, but if you just load it in a cart and heat it up a few times, with a couple shakes it's mixed for your smoke sesh. If you do happen to try this method, heat with the cig pointed down then move it up the first few tries. Then, the dripper gets both lubed from the PG and burns some of the delicious hash. If you want to burn more oil, point the cig upwards. I've been doing this for the past month and have had the best luck so far. I live in an MMJ state that's not allowing dispensaries and technically oil's illegal here, so I don't have access to some of the better product that someone in CA may have.

BHO IMO is much rougher on the lungs as well as the e-cig hardware. I had a few grams of that and it burned out fast. Perhaps if I'd mixed it with PG....who knows.

This thread compelled me to join and share my recipe. Hope it helps someone. Just my $.02