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Tek Home Rosin Presses under $750 - School Me

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by OldOyler, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. DrRishi

    DrRishi Well-Known Member

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    The wisdom of hindsight!

    I purchased a NugSmasher Mini first which is a fine little machine but to process my harvest it is too small. It did however teach me exactly what I needed. Then I did as you suggested and for 400 Euro I have a complete 10 ton press with 3*5 plates and now with separate heaters and thermocouples in each plate.
     
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  2. MegaMan2k

    MegaMan2k Well-Known Member

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    holy smokes i could have had that for this cost -..-
     
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  3. Pressisbest

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    More information than you might care to know, but really should, can be found at this thread.

    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=348693&page=1
     
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  4. TheWhisper

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  6. psychonaut

    psychonaut Company Rep

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    It states it can do 1300-1500 PSI, that's a good range for flowers. Small plates, 2.5x2.5" it looks like, should do well for a small batch rosineer. I looked at these once but decided to piece together a kit for larger plates and the ability to move the plates to different presses. I would just want to make sure that the rated PSI is indeed capable if you max out the plates. Also, it would be a good idea to figure out how easy these self contained units are to repair, shipping them in for repair is quite expensive.
     
  7. Doktor Dub

    Doktor Dub Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, sir :-) that gives some hope... i would love to build something myself if i had the appropiate House or Workshop but like i live right now this would be much more practical. As this is one of the VERY few units which ship from inside Europe i would get easier guarantee if needed.

    Just that there are no reviews is a bit strange.....

    What amounts would i probably be able to press in one run? Will it probably be a step up from the Slug33?

    Have a great day all!
     
  8. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead FC-OG

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    It'a a Chinese rebrand of a Greenlight Press. https://www.greenlightvapes.com/product-page/rosin-press
    I'd stay away personally, as the pressure is probably nowhere close to that rating. Here's some reviews. https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Hydraulic-Rosin-Press-Dual/dp/B01MTM6JOG#customerReviews

    As far as small presses go, I haven't seen anything that looks better than the Nugsmasher Mini so far. What I like about the NS Mini is there are a bunch of videos of people getting 30% yield on them, so at least the capabilities are there.

    IMO even a hair straightener would be a step up from a Slug 33.
     
  9. psychonaut

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    I've ran easily 7 grams using bottle tech that had a 2" footprint @ 1000 PSI. This would be perfect under those plates. You can also condense it and run sift or bubble if you're looking for more grams of oil per squish.
     
  10. asdf420

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    Condense? Does taking flower, sifting/making bubble hash and then pressing yield more or better results than just pressing fresh flower? (For the same amount of flower starting out)
     
  11. psychonaut

    psychonaut Company Rep

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    I doubt it would be as high of yields to take flowers and process them into bubble or sift, then press it into rosin.

    The better part though is whatever you prefer. It's lower temps which seems to generate a different product (budder vs sap/shatter).
     
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  12. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    But probably a bit more efficient first to make dry sift with your flowers and using this for squishing rosin?
    You can process around 5-10 the amount in one run.
     
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  13. psychonaut

    psychonaut Company Rep

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    Sure, I've seen videos of 2oz of trim processed with dry ice in a 160u bubble bag in a matter of minutes. They ran two squishes because they had 2 different grades but that could have all easily been pressed together. Less pressure required for hash rosin as well, usually around 100 PSI max is used.
     
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  14. mc

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    Even my nugsmasher mini with 2000PSI is not up to doing more than 3.6 grams of flower at a time. Trust me, this POS electrical pressie will not be great in the long run.
     
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  15. mc

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    I would avoid this thing unless you only want to press hash. If you wantt to do flower, this thing is good for 1 or 2 grams max at a time. Maybe 3 but you'll start to lose yield. Electric is garbage unless you have big $$.
     
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  16. asdf420

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    I'll probably just want to press fresh flower using a DIY press. Like that truck jack one? If I were to have dry sift, may as well vape it as is.
     
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  17. mc

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    economically rosin from flower will get the greatest "yields" although doing a concentrate first (bubble/sift) and then pressing that will of course be a much cleaner and more potent product. However you do lose flavor and yield this way.

    Ideally if you have large amounts, you can bubble it, and keep the full melt as hash, then mix and press the rest into full melt rosin. Or keif/pollinate it all and press it all, both work.
     
  18. psychonaut

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    Interesting, I had no idea the NS mini maxed out at an 1/8th. So is the problem because it's only a 2T jack in there so the PSI across the plates isin't enough to handle a 7gr bottle tech filter? My last 7gr squish puck was smaller than 2.5" I believe, at 1000 PSI.
     
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  19. mc

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    I haven't tried 7g at a time in a while on it, so maybe it was more do do with the strain at the time. I'm going to try again soon and report back. it just felt like I wasn't getting the puck down like I could with 3.5

    That being said, the bottle jack in the NS is WAY stronger than this electrical one. And with electric you have no control on the speed of ram descent.
     
  20. psychonaut

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    @Doktor Dub Ideally, if you have space for a bench top press (Dimensions L x W x H (in.) 19 7/10 x 20 7/8 x 34 15/32), pairing that with a cheap dhgate 3x5" uncaged kit is going to really open your options up. It wont take up that much space and while not exactly portable, you can technically move it with a few trips back and fourth, or a helper =)

    $250 for 3x5" cheapo dhgate plates and PID or whatever dabpress ends up charging for their 3x5 caged kit they are releasing soon, probably around $325-350 along with a $150-350 bench top press. It's an investment for sure but all that stuff is going to last a while.
     
  21. CannaPlates

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    @weedemon

    I am happy you are happy :) Contact me anytime if you have a question.
     
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  22. MegaMan2k

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    Will be upgrading to a shop press setup aswell in the near future

    Is it worth it to go over DHgate quality on plates and pids? :)


    Also;
    My personal opinion on this:
    the rosin made from "mixes" where say the 73,90 maybe also the 120 was removed, I find the resulting rosin of this method to be less potent(ofcourse), shorter lasting- but what bugged me the most was how much it chazzed my banger-

    I know it can depend on which diameter trichome heads the exact cultivar your working with is going to express, again, depending on the environment it was grown in.

    my experience is from indoor, typical indica hybrids 7-8 weekers
     
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  23. DrRishi

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    I can’t comment on the higher quality plates but I am very happy with my DHGate plates. I have added a separate thermocouple because the temp on the controller did not match the temp at the plates but apart from that they work perfectly.
     
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  24. DrRishi

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    I can’t comment on the higher quality plates but I am very happy with my DHGate plates. I have added a separate thermocouple because the temp on the controller did not match the temp at the plates but apart from that they work perfectly. The PID’s all come from China anyway so no difference there
     
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  25. CannaPlates

    CannaPlates Owner

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    Short answer: Yes it is worth it.

    Long answer: DHGate is cheap for a reason. I dont want to run across breaking any rules here, but you do pay for what you get. The plates as a rule are machined just enough to pass inspection, there can be variations on the 'flatness' of the pressing surface. which can lead to uneven pressing. ( even a small variation can make a difference at high pressure.)

    The pid controllers they use, you can buy on ebay for $9.99 or less. They have the thermocouples built right into the heater cylinders. This gives the temperature of the heating cylinder, NOT the temperature of the plates. This can be out as much as 50-100 degrees F.

    If you want to buy an all-in-one, be prepared to spend around $2,000 - $5,000 USD and up to $10,000 for anything worthwhile. You need a min of (IMO) of 1000 psi at the plates. For 5x3 plates this translates into 8 tons of downward force. (1066 psi over the entire 15 sq in of the plates), now granted you would most likely be using a 4x2 bag with 5x3 plates. This means that you only need around 5-7 tons of downward force to get the PSI needed on those bags. You now have a surface area of 8 sq in.

    In the end it really does matter. You can pay 250 for a set of plates, but you really do get what you pay for and I can say with some confidence that you may not be happy with what you get. Customer service is somewhere halfway around the world. Warranties are minimalistic and odds are..they are less than 90 days from purchase..or not at all.

    I have been building and selling rosin plate kits now for over a year..some of the horror stories customers tell me about their overseas plate buys are amazingly bad. Most are just regular bad..but still bad enough for them to buy a second set of plates from a reputable seller.

    You really do get what you pay for.

    EDIT: added "I have been building and"
     
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