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Don't Eat Your Fruits and Vegetables......Juice Them

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by Deadhead101, May 15, 2012.

  1. Deadhead101

    Deadhead101 I am the Vapor King--I can do anything

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    Recently I decided to give juicing a chance since I'm lazy and find myself not eating nearly enough vegetables on a daily basis (fruits are much easier for me to consume). For those of you unfamiliar with juicing, all it is is taking fruits and vegetables (mostly vegetables) and using a juicer to separate the juice (what you drink) from what's left--the pulp (which personally i discard because there theoretically should be no nutrients left in the pulp, only fibre). It is not very time consuming. It takes me about ten minutes to prepare my veggies and five minutes to rinse the juicer after finishing.

    It goes without saying that fruits and veggies are extremely good for us in numerous ways. Several noticeable effects I've noticed in the first few weeks of juicing is softer skin, healthier hair, and a general sense of well being.

    I've grown to love juicing, and I juice daily. The fruits and veggies I've used thus far are carrots, apples, cucumber, ginger root, lemon, tomato, sweet potato, various leafy greens like spinach, bell pepper, broccoli, lime, asparagus, and some others I'm forgetting. I plan to keep trying to diversify my ingredients and try new things.

    Juicing certainly has increased my grocery bill, although I find myself spending much more time in the produce section and avoiding junk food.

    The juicer i bought is a Black and Decker that I payed under $40 from Amazon. It works great, I recommend it. Eventually I do see myself upgrading to a more expensive model that has a bigger chute, stronger motor, and better extraction.

    So, does anyone else juice? Have any recommended recipes? Any questions about juicing? I would highly recommend juicing to anyone and everyone.
     
  2. jackmormon

    jackmormon Well-Known Member

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    I used to juice a bunch until I discovered the Green Smoothie. Now I drink lots of fruits and veggies whole :tup:
     
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  3. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    Honestly never understood any advantage juicing has over the green smoothies, unless you're consuming a ton of fiber in all your other meals.

    I also find it hard to believe there's no nutrients in the pulp. Sure, when you're cooking cannabis in an oil, it leeches out ALL the thc, but with a juicer its just a short physical squeeze
     
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  4. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    I used to juice until I found out that by doing so, you lose out on the benefits of your body breaking down the fiber.

    If God wanted us to juice, we'd have whirring blades for teeth. :brow:
     
  5. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    One thing to consider, however, is the leaching of vital nutrients from the soil. Commercial farming methods have depleted the soil our foods grow in of pretty much any beneficial minerals, so the foods we are juicing are no where near as nutritionally dense as foods used to be, even just a few decades ago. It can be very challenging to get proper nutrition these days by raw food intake alone ime. :2c:

    Edit: Also, wheat grass juice, one of the most nutritious substances on the planet, must be juiced. Unless you want to start grazing . . . ;)

    EDIT: This guy knows more about nutrition than most. Dead doctors, athletes, and animals don't lie . . .

     
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  6. Elluzion

    Elluzion Vapeosaurus Rex

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    I love juicing. I definitely would rather eat more fruits and juice my vegetables. I can't stand a lot o veggies but juicing them isn't bad at all.

    I have a twin gear nice juicer and it has held up foor a couple of months. It has a 15 year warranty so I am not worried about it.

    I have a book called "big book of juices" and it is great. Has many smoothie and juice recipes.

    My favorites are pear, ginger, beet, orange, carrot, kale :)
     
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  7. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    I am raw Vegan 99 % convert ! :) 60% of my food is juices . I prefer vegetable juices than fruit juices cuz they have less damage on my teeth + the detox isn't that rushy and intensive and detox should happen calmly .
    I eat my fruits .. rather than juicing them. Thats just my likings.
    Here is my Food Guru .. You might have seen him somewhere around USA :). He is going around on a bike.. and changes peoples life. :)
    Dan the Man Rocks :rockon: , http://www.youtube.com/user/liferegenerator
     
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  8. Deadhead101

    Deadhead101 I am the Vapor King--I can do anything

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    Dan the man indeed! I just spent the last 40 minutes looking through a couple oh his videos.

    In the long run, my plan is to grow as much as I can myself, to ensure that i get chemical-free veggies and save money. Plus I've always wanted to get into gardening.

    Some people point out that juicing doesn't get out quite all of the nutrients. If one believes that, they can simply eat the pulp. There are pulp recipes out there.

    All I know is that juicing makes me feel revitalized and Ima keep riding that train.
     
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  9. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well vegetables contain many energizing and even psychadelic :). Some of my friends think Dan the Man is constanly high (cuz of the passion and movements he makes) :).. and they are not wrong..
    For example juicing hot peppers can speed you up cuz there is Piperazine involved.. Old wave of legal highs contained it :). Other than that parsley,dill,salvia sclarea,corriander etc.. contain oils which can be inhibited into trippy substances only with help of cinnamon and/or chamomile tea/oil .
    Also you must try juicing wild herbs.. My GF has one of thouse grass juicing manual tools and we take it when hiking for example and we make juice out of what we find :).. This gives a mule-kick headstart to the clouds !
    There is so much power into nature.. i regret for eating any crapfood..
     
  10. jeffp

    jeffp psychonaut

    I've been juicing intermittently since the late seventies and I enjoy it. It's never the hassle it appears to be at the outset - from start to finish including cleaning the juicer it's 30 minutes - the result is a full quart of vegetable juice that I'll drink immediately. Carrots, a beet, an apple, celery and maybe some spirulina powder and a clove of garlic. To me it's delicious and it gives me a tremendous feeling of mental clarity and energy. I use a Champion juicer that I've had for 20 some odd years. My first juicer was an AEG Phoenix.

    I grow my own wheatgrass and I have a manual wheatgrass juicer which works but I don't enjoy using it. What I do instead is is simply use my mouth as the juicer - I chew on a wad of wheatgrass like gum then discard when it's out of flavor. That's the most efficient and easiest way to "juice" wheatgrass in my opinion.

    The writer who turned me on to juicing originally is Norman Walker.
     
  11. chant121

    chant121 Active Member

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    juicing saved my stomach ulcer .. 1 cabbage per 5 days juiced once in morning on empty stomach ( repeat daily for better effects).. i did however drink it neat which seemed to be too strong for more than 2 weeks where by i needed a break from it ( not needed it since ) i also recommend porridge n bananas n honey for brekky yum :)
     
  12. AGBeer

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    FWIW this thread motivated me to do something (similar) to help change some of my poor dietary habits. While I havent picked up a juicer (too much of a wuss to tackle the juice) I did pick up one of those 'Magic Bullet' mini blenders to make smoothies. This thing friggin rocks as it makes a nice single serving of (all fruit) goodness that I enjoy as a snack or even breakfast.

    While I know that its not as 'healthy' as a juicer and veggie juice - its a start. You have to figure that the only fruit I would get in my diet normally came from a cereal bar or a pack of starburst (on occasion). Top it with the fact that while I dont normally eat 'sweets' my daughter and wife (mostly wife) dont seem to care if they pump processed sugar into their bodies (daily). And unfortunately if jelly donuts are sitting out then chances are I would eat one (or four)

    Up next, I plan to start sneaking veggies into my smoothies to see if I can incorporate even MORE better choices in my piss poor diet :D
     
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  13. Nycdeisel

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    I like this thread. I have not juiced. Only heard lots of [great] things about it. However this thread might just be the push I need to start it!
    Like a lot of people I could definitely use more vegatables in my diet -I probably have enough fruit, and though fruit can be bad in excess because of the amount of sugar, im sure its very nice to use with veggies to add to the taste and such.

    I too believe that these foods are best consumed in their raw form. As opposed to what you see often, people putting vegetables in oils and cooking them! Besides the fact that most oils will oxidize and turn into something toxic when exposed to high temperatures like that of cooking(coconut oil is the best cooking oil cause it doesnt go bad at high temps), they are destroying the poor veggies!

    Whats up with the smooties vs juicing ? you use whole vegetables to mush it up to keep the fiber yea?

    P.s: could definitely use some tips ! :D
     
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  14. drumwizard

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    I juice about 3-5 times a week, usually in the morning. I use a Cuisinart 1000 watt centrifuge juicer that works pretty well in my opinion. I attempted to go full vegan after watching the documentaries Forks Over Knives, Food Inc., Food Matters, and Fat Sick & Nearly Dead (this one in particular is about juicing). I HIGHLY SUGGEST watching these as they are very informative and easily available on Netflix. I was able to last about 5 days before I caved in and ate meat again. I'm now on a diet that has no particular name, it's just my own diet consisting of:

    -mostly vegetarian (keep in mind there is a difference between vegetarian and vegan) meals
    -occasional fish or chicken, but always organic, ask around at your local farmers markets
    -cut out the majority of processed foods...for example, anything that has the word "enriched" in the ingredients is processed.
    -cut out all soda
    -cut down as much as I can on sugar
    -cut down on salt
    -drink a lot more water than I did before
    -2 meals a month, usually on a weekend and usually just for dinner, I eat anything I want (maybe fast food or a cheese-steak and onion rings, etc..)

    It's not the best or worst diet but it's what works for me and overall I feel better than I've ever felt in my life since switching to this routine about 3 months ago (same time I took a complete vapor break). I also lost 15 pounds so far.

    One more thing in response to a post in here...the lack of fiber issue is easily offset by taking fiber supplements (I eat the gummy vitafusion kind but there are organic alternatives). One good suggestion is when juicing or eating raw, ALWAYS buy ORGANIC. The argument (and for the most part, true) is that buying organic can be a bit expensive. For anyone looking for an organic store near them, try this site out:
    http://www.organicstorelocator.com/index.html

    At the end of the day you have to do what's right for you. Enjoy your life. :)
     
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    Nycdeisel Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Go organic! :peace:
     
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  16. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    For me, I prefer to get my fiber naturally and is the main reason that I don't juice anymore, but like you said, at the end of the day, ya have to do what's right for you, but considering my age, my health and my current work-out schedule, apparently, I'm doing something right.

    I just gotta figure out how not to eat ice cream. :p

    Also, TOTALLY agree on going organic. I try to do that as much as I can.
     
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  17. technique

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    the pulp actually slows the rate at which your body absorbs the sugars from fruit, juicing in this fashion is not good for your sugar regulation system.
     
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  18. drumwizard

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    I would suggest buying a juicer that has a pulp catcher built in so you can decide what to do with it.

    There is also a growing trend to juice raw cannabis because of the many health benefits it has. Watch this video and tell me what you think. I haven't tried it yet but it sounds like it makes sense.
     
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  19. crawdad

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    i have one of those champion juicers and juice off and on (should do more), for me its a great way to get more veggies and fruits in without munching for 20-30 minutes, my teeth aint what they used to be. i usually do 3 apples + 8 carrots, its refreshing and quite healthy...certainly healthier than NOT eating 3 apples and 8 carrots a day (with lots of water).
     
  20. jeffp

    jeffp psychonaut

    Why don't you try it out at a juice bar and see if it's for you - I know for me when I have fresh vegetable juice my body goes "ahhhh." The Champion is a very good juicer especially for carrot juice - it's rugged and efficient. One of these days I might invest in a Vit-A-Mix which is a high speed blender - a supposed better approach because you get juice and pulp together. The best juice I've ever had was made from a NorWalk but that device appeared to be way too elaborate and involved in my opinion for routine use. Off topic but I went to NY Gifts last week and was impressed with their glass....good store - you were right, NYCDeisel.
     
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  21. Nycdeisel

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    Thanks for the advice Jeff. I guess Ill have to try that out one of these days.

    Glad you liked that shop! Its the only one I would bother with nowadays
     
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  22. jeffp

    jeffp psychonaut

    Personally if I were just starting out I would not be averse to buying a high quality juicer used on craigslist at less than half the price, and they're always available. Like vaping, it's not for everyone and my guess is that if they're for sale they are hardly used at all - not that it would make any real difference. Not sure if I would recommend the Champion today - I happen to like it, but I know there are other models out now that alot of people like better for specific reasons - all of this is easy to research though. I personally LOVE the taste of fresh vegetable juice - it is really delicious.

    Yeah NY Gifts is a great store -when I was there it occurred to me that I might hear the voice of a female vaporizing expert giving advice to the store proprietor - so I could say - "hey you're not by any chance...." I've noticed that head shops in general have upgraded their stock of vaporizers - there are good ones for sale now. Even the little "smoke shop" in my area has a little "head shop" section in the back (you walk in, first there's the tobacco, then the girly magazines, and then at the end by the wall are the bongs, etc.) and I was surprised and delighted to see that the MFLB was stocked.
     
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  23. Deadhead101

    Deadhead101 I am the Vapor King--I can do anything

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    The Black and Decker Juicer I bought is from Amazon and it was like $38. I found that my pulp (similar to vegetable ABV) was coming out a little wet, so I started running the pulp through the juicer again. This results in about 20% additional juice, and the juice is actually thicker with a touch of pulpiness.

    I kinda consider the B&D Juicer to be comparable to an inexpensive entry level type vape like a vapor genie, because it seems to be well built and effective without being extravagant by any means.

    I second the notion of giving vegetable juice a shot by sampling juice from a juice bar. I think that once someone drinks a big old glass of some vegetable juice they'll become hooked on how it cleanses them inside and out, mentally, spiritually, physically, all around.

    I tend to prefer pure vegetable juice at this point but I do believe that beginners should consume juice that contains some fruit to make the juices more palatable. My favorite fruit juice is from apples.
     
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  24. AGBeer

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    Okay, so it appears that because of this thread (again - yes, I blame you threadstarter and JackM+SD) as I think I am hooked on the green smoothie. So far, I have been doing the fruit with spinach smoothies and I really love the fact that when I want something sweet they satisfy.

    Logically the next step is going to be in the deep end of the pool and a REAL blender that can tackle these fruits/veggies (seeds and all). See: $400 blender 'real'. :D

    Blendtec here I come!
     
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  25. charliedontsurf

    charliedontsurf Glassblower

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    I recently bought a Ninja food processor :ninja: and like it quite a bit. There's no pulp-catch or anything like that, and it does a great job of annihilating whatever I've thrown into it so far. I've been making one or two green smoothies a day since getting it. Made some awesome hummus and felafel with it, too.

    Awesome video and avatar Drumwizard
     

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