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Don't Eat Your Fruits and Vegetables......Juice Them

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by Deadhead101, May 15, 2012.

  1. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Ohhhh yeahhhh baby :D

    Will it Blend - Doctor Who and the Daleks


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  2. jackmormon

    jackmormon Well-Known Member

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    Blendtec is about the best purchase I ever made :tup:

    Hippy Viagra (tastes awesome)

    2 apples, cored
    1 banana, peeled
    1/2 bunch of kale (about 1/2 lb)
    2 tbs hulled hemp seed
    2 tbs flax seeds
    Juice of 1/2 lemon
    Water as needed for consistency
    Stuff into Blendtec pitcher and hit the smoothie button.

    It is amazing that a 1/2 pound of raw kale is pretty much unnoticeable in the smoothie except for the color. I have one of these or something similar daily.
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  3. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    I got really close to purchasing the blendtec, but then I realized the material of the jar is is plastic.

    :/

    I have a ~$120 Krups blender that has a real thick glass blender jar, and while its only 330watts, it still kinda of feels like a down-grade going from glass to plastic.
  4. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Sneak Peek - Blendtec Total Blender Designer Series


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  5. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    LOL !!! That dramatic music. It's a fucking blender for Christ's sake. A good one, no doubt, but still, that was a bit over the top.
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  6. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    You are so right lwien, but I WANT one so bad . . . next time they come to my local COSTCO its going to be hard to resist . . . :freak:
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  7. AGBeer

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    Oh my... Now that is sick and rather tempting.

    Fortunately I am still saving up for one of these and dont (plan on) going over the $500 mark (wildside or not)

    This is making it difficult.


    EDIT - Its Friday, payday, and I pulled the trigger. Wildside Designer Series it is.
    The cool thing about it is I broke up my payments into 3 (easy) payments.
    Initial payment was $240 and the other 2 are just under $150 each.

    I will be camping by my mailbox now :brow:
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  8. AGBeer

    AGBeer Lost in Thought

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    Okay, for all of you who have been playing along at home - IT ARRIVED!!!

    I finally got a chance to take this badboy for a spin, and I must say that I am impressed! (And yes it WAS worth the extra $100 over the 'OG' model)

    First, its much quieter than I had anticipated. Yes, its loud but definitely tolerable. I am still in the experimentation phase of seeing what tastes good with what, but so far I have had to only dump 1 smoothie (and I managed to choke half of it down) - this was merely due to the fact that I tried to get bold and throw in some dandelion greens. (bITTER - with a capital everything!)

    It blends fruits/veggies like a madman. Even strawberry seeds are crushed with ease (those tiny bastards) but blueberry seeds are another story. Oh, and did I mention how SMOOTH everything was in this blender? (Yeah Im impressed) :D

    This mornings breakfast was - Spinich, Banana, Kiwi, Pear, and a few Strawberries. Toss in some Almond Milk to give it some liquid (and extra creaminess) - I think this was one of my favs thus far. (Even Kale is blended smooooooooth)

    All in all I think I am VERY pleased with my purchase and I look forward to experimenting more and more with it.
    Happy Blending! (Or Juicing for all you juiceheads)
  9. crawdad

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    congrats AG, that breakfast sounds action packed!
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  10. t-dub

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    I heard Vicki got some new solar lamps lately, hmmm . . .

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  11. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone tried the Bass-O-Matic ?
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  12. VaporBoxed

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    Im surprised. How have you guys not mentioned the Vitamix. Its the only thing i use. It truly blows all other blenders and juicers out of the water.
  13. SD_haze

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    Just made a smooth-as-velvet, no-chunks green smoothie with my ~$150 krupps blender :-D
    Banana, apricot, baby spinach, and some real maple syrup.


    I know I mentioned earlier in this thread that I didn't like how expensive the Blendtec was when you get a plastic jar instead of glass, but I'm amending that now.
    Doing some more research I found that they intentionally never use glass on the ultra high horse power blenders because there's a risk of chipping or whatnot.
    :tup:

    I'll keep using mine til it breaks down, but looking forward to upgrading to the big leagues one day down the road.
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  14. AGBeer

    AGBeer Lost in Thought

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    The Vitamix is also top of the line, and trust me - it was first on my list (before I started doing my side by side) I went with the Blendtec for a number of reasons, but Im sure I would be just as satisfied with the VM.

    I went and picked up some organic carrots the other day and I think this will be the first whole juice that I make. :D

    In fact, I have started looking out for farmers markets for my produce. (I found an AWESOME one here in town that lets you order online then come and pick your stuff up) This thing is awesome!
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    Sounds great , AG! sounds like already got a great setup with a high quality blender and local organic produce! :tup:

    I have a blender but i need one specifically for this purpose
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  16. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict Staff Member

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    You've got me thinking about dusting off my old Braun juicer/extractor... Nothing like fresh carrot juice in the morning! ;)
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  17. luchiano

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    The advantages are that you can get more nutrients from different foods in a smaller cup whereas using whole foods there is no way you can do this because of all the fiber. For example I juice some cabbage, some carrots, some broccoli, some collard greens, add some ginger powder, turmeric, thyme, and a little orange juice. Then add some psyllium husk for soluble fiber to slow absorption. If I made this whole I wouldn't be about to make this type of drink because it would be too thick.

    Juicing is like making a concentrate of different foods and making a totally new drink when you ingest all of them at once because all the nutrients enhance each other. Not the best tasting juice but very powerful. I eat more fiber than most people because I eat a lot of beans than most as it's my main source of protein as well as I eat leafy vegetables with the meal. I get at least 42 grams of fiber(mostly soluble) a day sometimes more. The juice just adds a little extra.
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  18. luchiano

    luchiano Well-Known Member

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    Cooking vegetables in oil, specifically olive oil, canola oil, coconut oil or butter(clarified butter is even better) is actually good for you, as long as you saute it, because it allows the fat soluble nutrients to be absorbed more easily into the body as well as soften the tough fiber to be able to be broken down by the body.

    The oil won't oxidize when you saute your vegetables as the water in them keeps things from getting too high plus the vegetables have antioxidants in them to prevent problems if they do occur once the water gets low and that's when you want to stop cooking anyway. Frying your foods is when problems can occur because most people don't keep a stable temperature and the temperature raises which burns the oil or oxidizes which causes problems in the long run. Coconut oil is a saturated fat so it doesn't absorb oxygen as much which is why it is recommended for frying.
  19. xivyx420

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    Speaking of juicing, I just watched a documentary called "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" and two men went on juicing diets for 60 days and the results were amazing. They checked in with doctors and after were doing a diet of fruits, veggies, nuts and beans. I would love to try this diet one day if I ever got a decent juicer (thanks to many posts here I can check some good ones out at decent prices :)) and got a little more self control. I'm at a healthy weight and live an active lifestyle, but I feel I can always do more and get healthier in the things I eat every day
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  20. VaporBoxed

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    From my knowledge, the vitamix is more advantageous nutritionally since it does not discard of the pulp or seeds which contains extra fiber and nutrients. Also, my vitamix never makes thick smoothies. My smoothies are usually creamy and easy to drink.

    Heres some good info i found


    the Vitamix makes the nutrients in the fruits and vegetables more "bioavailable."
    What makes nutrients bioavailable?
    Bioavailability refers to the difference between the amount of a substance (drug, chemical or nutrient) to which a person is exposed and the actual does of the substance that the body receives. If a nutrient (in a food) is ingested, bioavailability relates to the amount that is absorbed by the intestinal tract.
    The concept of bioavailability takes into consideration that certain key nutrients are found in the seeds and skins of fruits and vegetables and they simply cannot be absorbed when food is simply chewed. The Vitamix blades pulverize food fiber to rupture the cell walls of these difficult-to-digest parts of whole foods. In turn, up to three times more nutrition is released.
    Whole food juice unlocks the power of whole foods.

    Extracted juice discards the pulp-which is where the nutrients like vitamin A, C and E and the minerals like iron , copper, iodine and magnesium are trapped. What you get with extracted juice is essentially "healthy" sugar-a handful of nutrients and pure fruit sugar. (See the chart provided by FDA-registered Lancaster Labs.)
    "The Vitamix doesn't throw out the most nutritious part of fruits and vegetables. My knowledge of the healing nutrients and fibers contained in the pulp of fruits and vegetables would never allow me to use any juicer that discards this precious pulp."
    John Heinerman, Ph. D.
    Author of "Heinerman's Encyclopedia of Healing Juices"
    "Virtually every beauty factor-skin, hair bones and overall vitality-is dramatically affected by what we choose to drink. The Vitamix machine not only liberates every nutrient trapped within the cell walls of produce, but also liberates me from the prohibitive time, cost and produce storage constraints of my old juicing program."
    Kat James
    Author and public television host of "The Truth about Beauty";
    founder and creator of www.informedbeauty.com and Total Transformation®
    Some Juicy Tidbits:
    • The fiber in Vitamix whole food juice counteracts the natural sugars in fresh fruit to prevent the "sugar rush" and high glycemic effect.
    • The Vitamix machine makes short work of the whole fruit or vegetable-seeds, stems, stalks and all become creamy-smooth juice in under a minute.
    (Joe Rogan video about vitamix)


    So in conclusion, i think SD_haze had it right all along green smoothies are alot better for you nutritionally because the pulp contains alot of the nutrients.
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  21. luchiano

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    vaporboxed, you didn't understand what I was trying to convey. If I made all of those things that I mentioned in a vitamix I wouldn't be able to drink it within an hour without feeling overstuffed due to the fiber being that I don't just juice fruits. With a juicer I can drink the juice in a few seconds. I eat the things I mentioned in my meals so I get the fiber from them anyway but when I want a concentrate from each of the foods so my body can make use of them more efficiently I juice them. Plus the psyllium husk adds some soluble fiber to slow down the digestion so it would be used efficiently by my body as well as make other substances because the bacteria in the gut love the soluble fiber and will break down the substances attached to the fiber into other nutrients known and unknown to give good health.

    BTW, if you look in the Joe Rogan video, his "juice" is thick as hell, if I made that I wouldn't be able to eat my other foods as I would be too stuffed. When I juice it is more like orange juice with pulp in it then a smoothie which means I can eat my cooked food and drink my smoothie afterwards because that is how you want to do it. The juice is a supplement to your other foods which in my case is either grains and leafy vegetables at night or beans and rice and leafy vegetables in the daytime. The vitamix is more like a blender as opposed to an extractor that a juicer is. I'm not knocking it because it does it's job great but it's different from a juicer.
  22. VaporBoxed

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    Oh ok i see what youre saying. I can see why juicing has its benefits. I misunderstood because SD said "I also find it hard to believe there's no nutrients in the pulp. Sure, when you're cooking cannabis in an oil, it leeches out ALL the thc, but with a juicer its just a short physical squeeze"

    I thought your post was disagreeing with the fact that the pulp did have nutrients. If you dont mind me asking, what brand juicer do you use? I have a vitamix and its great but i would like to try juicing again.


    TIA
  23. luchiano

    luchiano Well-Known Member

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    I use the Jack Lalane. It was cheap considering how quiet and efficient it is compared to others in it's range and get's the job done better than the one I used to have which was a Black & Decker which didn't extract as much juice as it should have and it was much louder than the Jack Lalane.

    BTW, if you juice greens make sure you roll them up like a cigar before putting them in the juicer as you can get much more juice out of them then if you just put them in regular.
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  24. SD_haze

    SD_haze MMJ Vaporist

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    I definitely feel you can have too much fiber in your diet. If you're eating beans/legumes/veggies all day long (like luchiano :D) then juicing, instead of blending, makes a lot of sense.

    With my diet I really need the fiber from my blended fruits & veggies :ninja:
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  25. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    Look folks it is simple. Your digestive system needs a certain amount if "fiber" to mechanically operate, but nothing beyond that. Juicing is about concentrating nutrients, vitamins, and minerals to a degree that cannot be accomplished by eating whole, raw foods, blended or not, simply because of the volume required. It appears to me that a hybrid drink starting with concentrated juices and ending in a blender may be the way to go . . . :2c:
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