Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by lwien, Apr 7, 2015.
Much thanks to all.
So I had just one 8 gram boveda pack in a half gallon mason jar with maybe 8 or 9 little containers of separated botanicals. They're either in screw top jars, which I've unscrewed slightly to make sure the humidity can get in, or jars with cork stoppers. I quite like the jars with cork stoppers. I picked up a few grams at my local dispensary just because they were in these jars and I'm going to try and store all in these type from now on.
Anyway, after a week or so I didn't feel like the single 8 gram pack was quite working. From all I've read on cigar aficionado sites and supposedly from boveda reps - the packs will never over humidify and the smaller packs tend to not work as well as the large ones so they recommend either using the large ones or just adding more packs.
So I now have 8 8gram packs in the jar and we'll see how it goes. When these are used up I will buy only 60 gram packs.
Please post an update if you notice any differences? Thanks.
Edit: After reading the posts that followed this, will order the bigger size for the big jars. I don't remember noticing that size existed when I bought the small ones.
That's a huge jar for those little packs. I use one 8g in a pint, two in a quart.
The 60g works well in a half-gallon jar, that's how I use mine
I do the same.
The little 8 gram packs are reserved for the smaller mason jars; 125ml and 250ml.
Question for you or anyone who knows the answer:
I just got a quarter zip (7 grams) of beautiful bud that I'm keeping in a 236ml mason jar and I'll have it for the next year or so. I've never bought this much herb at once. I'll be gradually consuming it, but I will also be taking breaks from using cannabis, as well as using other strains during this time, so 8 months from now I may have around 2 grams of this stuff left.
Will that be too small an amount of herb for an 8g 62% pack? Should I switch to a 4g pack at some point? Or should I start now with a 4g pack?
the smallest bodeva packs that I have been able or order easily have been the 8 gram packs. One goes in every jar accommodating 1 - 7 grams. Vacuum packed and kept in a cool dark place, your stash should remain preserved for years.
You can't "overdo" with Boveda, when in doubt, err on the size of a bigger pack, or throw more in there.
From their website:
Will Boveda over-humidify my herbal medication?
Never. Boveda is the only product in the world that knows when to stop adding moisture and won’t humidify beyond the RH on the pack, so there is no such thing as “too much”. Using more than recommended will just work more efficiently and last longer.
Here’s a guide on minimum Boveda and size:
Boveda 4 gram: 7-14 grams of medicine.
Boveda 8 gram: 14-28 grams of medicine.
Boveda 60 gram: 112-450 grams of medicine.
Boveda 320 gram: up to 5 pounds of medicine.
Yeah I saw this, and it was why I had a bit of a concern. I see people recommending no smaller than an 8g pack for anything that's bigger than a spice jar-sized container, so an 8g pack is what I ordered, but I will only have <6g of flower in my 8oz jar down the road. So according to this, I should have ordered a 4g pack...hmmm
Keep the 8g. I recently ordered some meds from a dispensary and picked up some packs for my break, but they sent 4g packs so I just use more of them. No harm, as mentioned you can't over humidify.
Oh how I wish I had your discipline! I won't be vaping in weeks/months and I STILL want to buy so much product! lol
I believe you, but if it's not possible to overhumidify, then why does Boveda have that volume guideline?
And you're the one with discipline, not me! I'm going to puff up tonight after a whopping 3 day break
Don't believe me bro, it's BOVEDA that is saying it.... read it again if you have to
Guidelines are just that....if it makes you feel any better, I put like double the guideline in
And man, it's such a small amount, don't get too concerned about it
Sounds like you need to end your break Unless it makes you even more paranoid!
I'm totally just teasing you bro.... i'm jealous of what you're going to experience tonight! Hope you report your experience in the CannaBreak Thread!
The Bodeva packs won't over humidity, but if they aren't big enough they can be insufficient to humidify up to its stated rating, ex. 62% rh, or not last very long or both.
So I think I would always error on having the Bodeva packs being too big than too small.
The smallest Bodeva available to me are the 8gram size and I use them for even the smallest amounts successfully.
Its like this....they are NOT humidity packs in the sense that they just release water vapor. They are humidity control packs that will either release water vapor or absorb water vapor in order to maintain the Rh determined by what exact salt composition is in the pack.
Quick worrying :-)
i'm using a Boveda bag in my metal container (CV)
and it's been over 1/2 a year while it's still "liquid" inside of it.
they claim that after a month it should get dry and hard..
so can anyone tell if it's all regular and the bag still "works"?
maybe with low "demand" of my stash it can hold more than they say?
If a herb container is rarely opened, the Boveda pack will last a long long time as the humidity is stabilized.
If you open a storage container often, the pack lasts for less time.
I have Bovedas that are fine at one year ++
When working, they are squishy liquid. When worn out, they get a sand/crystal consistency.
Note that they can often be "revived" by placing them in a closed container, resting above warm water in the container (not in or touching the water) and they will get squishy again.
I recently did a batch of 4 bad ones and 3 came back/ one did not and was tossed.
Yes, this is back to back posts but totally different question, now that I'm thinking Boveda.
?? Should concentrates destined for long term storage also get "Boveda treatment"?
?? Is the answer the same for all, ranging from soft and hard hash, to budders, waxes, shatter, live rosin, etc??
I'm putting the cart before the horse, as I've never had current concentrates, but it's on my bucket list to get some
on next trip to CO so will need to know about storage.
Would be getting something like a gooey, pliable, wet looking live resin or buddery translucent blob or ??
Microdoser so only would only get a small amount and it would need to last a long time, would Bovedas
be the way to go, just like for flowers??
ok, then. that's what i though.
mine is still totally liquid.
IT WONT HURT IT AT ALL.
Boveda works the same way damp salt does (actually, Boveda's are a salt and water mixture at heart). They don't care how much or how little MJ is in your container, they lower the partial pressure of the water vapor so that you get less than 100% relative humidity in your closed environment. Key word there....relative, so all of these advertised percentages are dependent on temperature.....so, at room temp they give the % RH desired.
If there is too high an RH, they absorb water vapor. To low, they release it. The packs have absolutely no idea what the hell is in the jar and don't care. They just strive to maintain % RH.
So, no....they will not over moisten your herb. It is possible for them to not reach the desired % RH if: your container is too large and the size pack just doesn't have sufficient water content to reach the specified RH or; they are old and dried out (can tell when you bend them they will crackle...time to chuck them out).
Good questions, i've recently gone through a bout of Strain Acquisition Syndrome and have basically doomsday prepped spending thousands of dollars on hundreds of strains of flower and concentrates (of all varieties). I've stored everything properly (for the most part) in jars with bovedas of different sizes and amounts, yet with all the concentrates I just am not very concerned, and just used good zip bags as well as those mylar foil zips. I don't know, probably not 'the best' way to store, but i'm not overly concerned. They are in parchment paper and then the zips and then in another bag with all the air I could squeeze out of them possible.
Mail Order Marijuana is just too easy in Canada! Dozens and dozens of these companies are springing up all over the place and it's just too easy to press a few buttons and before you know it your bank account weighs a tonne less and you have parcel after parcel showing up at the door!
It's a good time to be alive! Sure is going to be fun with virgin tolerance when the day comes!
Came here to ask about boveda packs and concentrates.
Mine are currently just stored in small mason jars, so i was wondering if anything would happen with an added boveda pack.
Ive found rosin has high moisture after initially being pressed, which creates an unwanted sizzle when vaporized. So maybe we should only use the boveda packs with flowers?
I know this is a very old post so don't know if my reply will cross paths with you, but I'm reading & enjoying it for the 1st time.
@steama , very curious as to how long do you "set the herb out to dry off a bit before vaping?"
That all depends on the humidity in the room you have it out in.
If it's 75% in the room, your bud will get more moist....
If it's 55% it will take along time to dry more...
If it's 35% it will dry very quick...
All things being relative, there is no simple answer for you...
I recall not too long ago reading something written by Broveda that said they recommended using the 62% humidity packs during winter & the 58% packs during the summer. I, too, live on Long Island, NY, and, yes, during the summertime, the humidity levels can climb to up to the 90% so I do think the lower humidity packs would work well.
Thanks for the reply @kellya86 ! What you said makes absolute sense. First time thinking about things I never thought about before -- now that I'm a member of the vaping community. Slowly, but surely, I'm learning.
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The humidity of your flowers can make a huge difference to your vaping experience...
From my personal experience, I find 56 to 58 to be perfect for me...
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