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Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by lwien, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Just ran across this that some may find of interest as some have been searching for 54% packs:
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    We released the 54% product due to requests for something lower than the 62%RH for cannabis, only when released to the public did we notice that the solution would harden when exposed to temps lower than about 68 degrees. The Boveda was still working and would usually soften to the normal texture after warming to 68 degrees or higher. But some didn't, so we pulled it from inventory.

    While we worked hard on a replacement formula, it doesn't perform with the same stability as the 62%, meaning that it didn't start and end at 54% (the 62 starts and ends at 62). Because we want to keep wowing our customers with great products, the 54 didn't satisfy our requirements. So until further notice, the 54 is permanently discontinued.

    The 59% formulation is manufactured for a specific client and is not available to any other consumers or retailers at this time.

    Thank you very much for your business, our hard work on new products to make your life better continues!

    Regards,

    Matt Osmundson
    Office Manager
    Boveda Inc.
    3/20/15

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  2. scottg402

    scottg402 Well-Known Member

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    Glad I got a bunch of 54's a while back if it is in fact the right formula for cannabis. I have had some herb in storage for a couple months. One small jar with a 54 and one with a 62. Going to break them out soon and do some head to head comparisons.

    When checking the jar there is a small difference in the dryness but it will be interesting to see if. I notice any difference through the vapes.

    I may not be the best judge but I'll give it a shot!
     
  3. kazz

    kazz Little Lebowski Urban Achiever

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    Thanks for posting this. I had been looking for these packs and now know why I can't seem to find them.
     
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  4. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Thanks lwien.

    The 62% Bovedas work great for me.

    ?? Did someone post a method to revive old ones?
    Was it dunk them in water when they get old (when they are no longer flexible/turn hard)??
     
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  5. scottg402

    scottg402 Well-Known Member

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    Just put them in a mason jar overnight with a moist paper towel and it should revive them.
     
  6. Megavapatron

    Megavapatron Well-Known Member

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    I love boveda packs. I prefer the 54%. I love being able to throw one if my quart jars and not have to worry about mold or over drying. Plus you can revive them after they dry up. Works like a charm every time.
     
  7. bluenavey00

    bluenavey00 Arizer Air Aficionado

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    Hi guys.

    Does anyone use boveda packs for long term storage of their herb?

    What % version pack do you use?

    Just looking for a few opinions on the matter so please chime in with anything you feel is related to boveda or long term storage (1 year) of herb.

    Thanks, stay vaked.
     
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  8. VAPEHUNTER

    VAPEHUNTER Well-Known Member

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  9. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Hi, like vapehunter I also use the 62%.
    I have bud that is 14 months old and stored with the Boveda 62s. It seems to get better with longer cure, kind of like smoother and better vaping.

    Without the Bovedas, that bud would be dry and harsh and crumble in your fingertips, rather than remaining a sponge-like consistency with proper humidity. .You press a bud in and it expands back out like a sponge would----perfect
    I love them, they really work!
     
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  10. steama

    steama Well-Known Member

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    I have used 54s and 62s and both are very good. I always set the herb out to dry off a bit before vaping.

    Boveda is also excellent for curing. Contrary to popular belief, with boveda you can pretty much thoroughly dry your herb to the point the smaller stems start to snap. This drying is done to remove any risk of mold during the cure. Place the dry herb in a mason jar with 3 or 4 boveda 62 packs. The boveda will rehydrate your buds to a perfect curing level of moisture. Then 'observe and burp' the color and clarity of the trichomes, just like on the plant, the trichomes will continue to 'ripen' towards a more amber color through the cure. I have found that a 2 ½ month boveda cure is just about perfect. The buds are no longer green but a beautiful golden color along with a great deal of amber trichomes.

    The thing that is so great about curing is you are in full control once you realize what is going on in the process. Though I do not combust I can guarantee you this method of curing produces some insanely smooth smoke.

    When you store your herb you need to continue to monitor the trichomes. Your herb will continue to ripen and then degrade over time. You can see this in the trichomes. Get to know what you like when your trichomes are a particular clarity and color. Newer trichomes are clear going to white and older trichomes will be more cloudy and amber. Check often when storing herb.
     
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  11. hafalump

    hafalump Well-Known Member

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    one year on 54s still good
     
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  12. Kief

    Kief Medicated

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    I've used the 62% packs for years now, have even stored one strain for over 2 years with them. I would stick with the 62's for long-term, but some less dense (leafy) strains may do better with the 54's. I would use the 54's mostly for short-term storage, maybe as long as a week. Boveda Packs take the guesswork out of storage (after it's cured), all you have to do is keep them in an air-tight container and check on them every month or so. I use mason jars and store them in a dark place.

    I didn't think the 54's had been out that long, wasn't it just this year that they came out and then got discontinued soon after?

    Are the 54's even available now?
     
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  13. Megavapatron

    Megavapatron Well-Known Member

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    I still have 54s. I bought bulk when I called once and was told They will be stopping them. I prefer the 54s but will go with the 62s once I run out
     
  14. Bravesst

    Bravesst Organized Chaos

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    Can I ask a noob question?

    How long will it usually take, using Boveda 62, with about an ounce of herb in a 21 oz mason jar to get to 62%?

    I've got 2 packs in 2 separate jars, with hygrometers (cheapies), and I'm hovering around 66%. I know there is a plus / minus of 5% on these (got some better hygrometers ordered).

    Just wondering about other's experience...

    Tx!
     
  15. Kief

    Kief Medicated

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    That will depend on the moisture content of your material, the humidity in the air you trap in the jar, and how much you keep opening the jar to let the moisture out... completely variable. If your herb isn't properly cured, the packs will need to work longer to get to 62% and get used up much faster. If your herb is already at the proper humidity and your container is full of more herb than air, then it should not take much time for the humidity to level out and the packs will last a long time.

    As far as cheap hygrometers go... I'd trust the Humidipacks over them for accuracy, but they can still be useful to see when the humidity stops changing (very helpful for curing). If you're just storing properly cured flowers, you don't need to worry about the meter.
     
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  16. Bravesst

    Bravesst Organized Chaos

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    @Kief Yes, the quality of the bud is top notch, lots of ppl paying lots of money for it in NYC. It's cured, I just have a few ounces in jars that I want to "final cure" as the boveda website says, and improve the efficacy of the herb. I had a feeling the packs were way more accurate than cheap hyrgometers, but even with different meters, I'm getting about 66% on 2 oz purchased 2 weeks ago. The rest of my stuff is coming in at exactly 62 % (probably like 1/2 z or so from about 4 to 6 weeks ago). I'm using 21 oz mason jars as the next smaller size down barely fits the z. Would I rather have smaller jars or more air space? Also, should I be opening the jars as little as possible, or regularly?

    Thanks for your time and expertise,
    Mike
     
  17. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Make sure you store your mason jars in a dark spot. I have some jars that I painted the outside black. But I have the CVault too.
     
  18. Bravesst

    Bravesst Organized Chaos

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    In a dark case, in dark green mason jars, all shut tight? Do you use hygrometers / boveda, or just store in glass jars? I actually purchased power free hygrometers so I wouldn't have to store a battery with my herb.
    -thanks as always
     
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  19. killick

    killick But I like it!

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    A buddy of mine 'cans' his herb, and has been for 40+ years. Basically boils mason jars, drys them thouroughly, fills full of bud and puts a canning lid on. they vacuum pack and he says they last forever.

    I've never done that, but did get some 72 and 62 Boveda packs. The 62's are doing great. Haven't used the 72s, but think I might have a humidor that is a couple of years dry, so might toss a couple of 72s in there and see what happens...
     
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  20. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Bravesst, there is no clear answer. If your herbs are well above the 62% mark, I'd burp them once a day IF your humidity is less than the herbs. Open the top for about an hour and this will help speed the transition down to 62%. Close em up, let the Bovedas continue to work, and keep checking.
     
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  21. killick

    killick But I like it!

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    @MinnBobber How do you recommend testing them for humidity to see if they are 'well above the 62% mark'?
     
  22. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    I got a cheapo "hygrometer for humidor" off of Amazon.
    They had a supposed $28 one for $17 and a supposed $17 one for $7.

    Since my bud is from CO in the winter (dry dry dry air), too dry is usually the problem the Boveda pack has to fix.
    I have very little stash but you probably have more jars and meter can move between jars--one meter to check all of them.
    It's not absolutely necessary but it helps to determine if they need burping and when to stop burping.

    FYI, some hygrometers are "adjustable" The calibration can be checked/changed. Boveda makes a hygrometer checker....
    You place your meter in the Boveda baggy with their special 75 % pack and view 24 hours later. Then for example, if your meter says 80% and it's an adjustable one, you can correct it so it properly shows 75% now and in future use.
     
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  23. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    I use the Boveda 62% packets. I have quite a few I bought off Amazon and change out every 3 months.

    I have a large CVault and a smaller size.
     
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  24. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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  25. Bravesst

    Bravesst Organized Chaos

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    I was all over the Boveda sight... I think the research points at 62, as far as they're concerned, for improving taste efficacy, and all that fine turning good stuff. Not sure if there is a big deal between 65 and 62 (so more knowledgeable members will help here), but amazon has the 62 (as @CarolKing mentioned), as well as all sorts of hygrometers real cheap.

    @MinnBobber
    It's a work in progress and I'm doing my best to nail that long term 62% RH. I live on Long Island, and in the summer humidity levels can hit 90%. Lately, we've been lucky, probably about 80-ish most days. I have central air in the house, and one of my hygrometers I left out says it's 62% RH in my office (where I store in a dark case, shut tight chest, in glass jars). The humidity in the case itself is 62 as well.

    With the high humidity here, and my guy probably stores in plastic bags and has it for anywhere from a week to a month before I get it. When I get it, buds are spongy, not really wet. All nicely formed buds in every strain I've gotten lately (quality is improving and prices are a dropping).

    Thing is, half my jars with less than a z in them, all dropped to 62RH almost immediately. The two jars I have with full z's were at 66 and 68 yesterday (different strains), and actually hygrometers hit 70 after first day burping. So... burping probably so not good, even with central air on, in Summer.
     
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