At least on the DV it wound up in the hands of a forum member (at least the first give away) that did a pretty decent review(s). I vow to, if I win, try to be as though and payback this community with a, if not as experienced voice, at least an in-depth and full review. Least I could do for quite a few reviewers on this site that have provided reasoned, informative, and well-stated analysis of specific devices. (Thanks!) I think I first saw it in the hundreds, so yeah my odds have dropped a lot since then.