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Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by randomtoker, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. Accept

    Accept Well-Known Member

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    Sweet @Filhote! How you like the glass?

    Tank above made for chill holiday party, but flavor died fast. Dripping tank contents afterward nearly flavorless, effects are fine. Disappointing loss of flavor - delicious fresh on Achilles Dual build.

    Several inexperienced users were impressed by the AVG clouds they exhaled and psychosomatically reacted to what they imagined to be massive hits. :lol: (It's a session vape, 1:7 dilution overall.)
     
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  2. Preferredduck

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    What settings do you use? I just got a melo 3. I have been running bid touch o.pen. I was using a 1:1 mix with ejmix or vapeur extract. I think I burned up my first ml I put in it fast. Temp and watts too high. 60 to 70 is at first. 30 watts seemed to hit good. I have 0 experience on these setups with temp etc. Any advice is appreciated.
     
  3. BigBudZombie

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    I was wondering what kind of tanks everyone's using for their e-juice mixtures? I've been using a "ceravape cerabis 45" tank. I liked it because its ceramic and adjustable but im running into issues with it sticking and leaking. I see some people are using the cleito or melo tanks, I was wondering what works well for you guys. I am very interested in finding a TC compatible tank that works well with thicker mixtures and doesn't leak.
     
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  4. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    Happy New Year, all my tankers, coil-builders, juice-mixers and FC'ers! :wave: :leaf:

    My donut coil heads in my mini cubis tanks has still been going well for me, so I decided to make a 4th coil for a 4th tank for myself! :o This one is for a CBD rich co2 oil. I already vape some various CBD concentrates on 2 different DT ceramic donut attys (layg) on 2 evic VTCs but sometimes it can be a problem for me to reload for myself "as I go" after usages :| so of course, a tank can keep the reloading efforts to a minimum :nod:

    I feel that I got the double-donut coil building with the standard cubis BF casings down pretty well now. I've made 6 of these coil heads, so far, and the exact, precise position and seating of the 2 donuts, and tiny variations in measured coil resistance, are the only variations in my work.

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    I've experimented with different amounts and placements of the ceramic wick inside the coil head casing, but overall, each coil head performs more or less the same. The grade / texture / potency of the oil I feed it makes the greatest difference.

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    This one I made a stepped-up strand from the bottom donut to the top, but I also went with a donut-circle loop of wick sitting on top of the top donut, as well, in another coil.

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    I sourced a few grams of this 4:1 cbd / thc co2 oil with a nice, flow-ey, less viscous texture. It came in little glass jars (I prefer already in a syringe or a plastic squeezer) but this light oil took up easily into the syringe, no need to heat it or anything. This made loading up the fresh tank and coil a breeze, with minimal waste :tup:

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    You can see here the light oil easily making its way to the bottom of the tank, and wetting the wicks along the way

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    And minimal oil sticking to the top portions of the tank. Most of what did stick up here ended up draining down, anyways. With some of my other tanks with thicker co2 oils, this top airflow / juice filling portion of the cubis tank will permanently have a light coating of oil that will never get a chance to touch the coil and be vaped :shrug:

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    All filled up here, this tank took about 1.5g of this oil to sit nice & proper and nearly full. Strangely enough, my other, thicker co2 oils I used before would reach nearly that fill-level with only 1g. :hmm: I would think this less viscous oil would be less dense and fill more volume with 1g, but anyways, got it all ready to use

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    0.33Ω, (a bit higher than my others) 30w again, TCR 245, settled at 390F at first, and great results! :p:luv::ko:

    The taste of this co2 oil was quite strange at first, sour-sweet, pungent-earthy, even BITTER at first :p but very nice still. After many hits, the bitter has subsided, the other great tastes remain. (maybe a very slight, low-boiling fractional terpene accounted for the bitter taste?)

    I have vaped a few different extracts of the CBD strain AC/DC, and after breaking in this oil tank, I'm concluding this oil is made from that strain, since it tastes exactly like it. Even thought the club wanted to call it "highest grade the richest blessings" :mental: But at 56/14.7 cbd/thc %'s, and all that flavor, it sure is a rich blessing! :love:

    So I filled this tank on 12/4 already, and have enjoyed hundreds of puffs so far, and the new evic basic I got as a kit with the tank is working fine, as well. The tiny little 1500mah built-in cell is holding up, and giving a respectable 60-70 puffs per charge, not bad for a 0.33Ω coil discharging 3-5 amps for 10 second bursts. The puff counter, lacking on the early firmware of my eleaf picos I use with my other co2 tanks, can provide some useful data, too. Got 262 puffs on 1765 seconds, so far (6.7s average puff) and I have re-filled the tank with that remaining half gram left over from the initial fill-up.

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    Looking back here, the tank still had a decent oil level before the re-fill, but I was taking this out for a trip for a few days, and wanted to make sure I had plenty

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    Fill'er up

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    Also ditched the cheap blue plastic delrin drip tip with a nice metal drip tip I scrounged from my old dormant MELO tank

    And here is exactly how it's sitting today, as I post, 262 puffs in, 2 grams poured. Probably got another half g and dozens more puffs awaiting me before more action needs be taken. You can see the hue of the oil is not quite as light, bright and bushy-tailed as on the fresh-fill up, but it's still quite good, pleasant and potent. :nod:

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    This brings me to a topic I havent brought up on my donut coils: life-span and intended usage / maintenance cycles

    So far, from my earliest donut tanks I made a few months ago, I'm on 2 refills, the 3rd gram so far. No cleaning or tweaking, just continous vaping and re-filling when low. Not surprisingly, after all that use, with oil that is ~75% cannabinoids + terpinoids and ~25% stuff that is NOT cannabinoids / terpinoids and does NOT boil off at my low TC temps around 400F...

    I will get a little buildup! :rolleyes: (duh) The oil on my first "pure cure" tank is darker now, and has lost some of it's early, flowery taste, but it's still fairly smooth and potent, so I'm gonna vape that tank down to almost nothing, and then replace it with a new, clean coil (that I will build for myself again) and tank, (and clean the old coil and tank for future re-use)

    After 3grams, and hundreds of easy puffs, I think that will have been worth it :nod: Now that I have more experience gathered from my endeavours, maybe I can stretch a single coil session to 4 or 5 grams per maintenance cycle, if I do it just right. ;)

    This is that 3-gram filled and vaped down pure-cure tank, at this very moment.

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    As compared to it's bright, initial fill up, a little over 2 months ago

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    Noticeable, right? But it's still quite serviceable to me, and I really don't know of any coil / tank combo on the market that you could load gram upon never-ending gram of oil without reclaim building up, or needing to eventually clean or replace it, right?

    So I'm keeping on vaping my donut tanks, and planning on building a fresh round of coil heads, to get ready for fresh grams of co2 oil in the next few months or so :tup:
     
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  5. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    Wow! Of course I can't make all my post in under 10k characters! :o :doh:

    sorry guyz :D

    Hey zombie, good time for you to join us here.

    As you see, I'm using pure, un-mixed co2 oils, which can have various consistencies, texture and viscosity, and can be a challenge to vape on this kind of e-cig type gear, since wicking up the coil can be limited and difficult, depending on what type or brand you're trying to use. If you are using a diluted or mixed juice, that can make it much easier, and negate the need to modify your coil head casings with extra holes, like I did.

    But regardless of juice type, I would avoid the MELO tanks because they can leak out on you from the bottom, at least with the vaporesso cCell coil heads I used. Possibly with the default eleaf MELO cotton coil heads, the leakage can be avoided (default coils have a thick cotton wad with no hole in the middle, vaporesso coils had a ceramic cylinder / chimney with a gaping hole in the middle, I think this is why it leaked on me)

    But generally, I am highly skeptical of bottom-air feeding RTA's, from my experiences, and I would highly recommend the Cubis Pro / Mini tanks for being nearly impervious to leaking, at least so far in my usage. You could sit these tanks upright forever, and there's nowhere for oil to leak down into, by gravity, unlike standard bottom-airflow feeding RTA designs, like the ceravape cerabis you tried? (leaked out from the bottom?) I've had these tanks sit sideways / upside down in my pocket by accident for hours (but not days) and it still doesn't leak or get the airflow blocked.

    As far as sticking....no problems with my cubis mini / donut coils too... on 3 / 4 tanks. :shrug: For some reason, probably lighter oil viscosity, my newest CBD oil tank has had the chimney get partially blocked sometimes. The oil can run up the airflow tunnel from the coil, but if you remove the drip tip and top part of the tank, you can easily scoop this orifice with a dab tool to clear it, and re-fill the tank with that oil. I've done it twice on my CBD tank now, and it's staying clear now, but my other tanks' air flow has been staying open. :shrug: I had this exact problem with my MELO tanks also, it must be common

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    Lastly...I found out about these joyetech "notch coils" when digging through my cubis boxes by accident. They might have came with my earlier CUBIS pro (4ml) tanks I'm not using. For those that want to use an un-modified coil, and don't demand a ceramic heater, maybe with mixed juice, these coils may be a good option? You can see they have a large slit in the side (1 on each side 2 total) to allow wicking up. This coil has by far the most generous wicking holes among all the cubis coil heads. Not quite as much as my swiss-cheese drilling, but I can't make a hole that big and neat with my hand-held power tools, so for my next round of coil builds, I think I will use these casings, still add a few drilled holes, and maybe it will help keep my donuts and wicks wet (ter) :brow: ?
     
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  6. mephisto

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    Thanks Donk! currently on a mandatory t-break but your in depth research has given me the direction to follow whence I am back upon the dragon's back. Love your work man!
     
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  7. Buns

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    Hey everyone, new poster, past lurker here. I'm looking to pick up some THC oil, I don't know what kind, but I assume it's co2. I'm looking to mix it with some vapor extract or holy terp to dilute it and fill a tank. Is the Cubis tank the way to go?
     
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  8. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

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    Usually dispensary Oils are ready for use and no addons required.
    There is a cornucopia of possible devices. You narrow it down by what it is YOU want (this time).
     
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  9. zor

    zor I hate the kids

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    I'm traveling a lot more for work and am experiencing a lot more work related anxiety. I usually carry my cannacaps with me when I travel, for the actual traveling, but as they take too long to kick in they don't help with my anxiety. I went back to making thcjuice, used up the last of my puffmajic and ordered a joyetech eVic VTC mini with the cubis tank (thanks for your info, @Vape Donkey 650!). I finally got it yesterday.

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    It has barely been a day so waaaay too early to tell, but I really like it so far! Not sure about any of my temp/power settings, I have 2 other atomizers to use, 0.5ohm SS and something called Clapton. So far no leaking although today I found some residue under the mouthpiece. Could be vapor condensation......I hope it's just vapor condensation.

    What makes the other tanks leak so much? Do I need to thicken or thin the viscosity of the thcjuice? I added some nicotine ejuice that a friend had once, completely spur of the moment, and it seemed to reduce leaking and popping, but that was so haphazardly done that I can't really reproduce it.
     
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  10. Accept

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    Cool! E-juice is perfect for on-the-go. 420F isn't a bad temp, oddly enough. You're running 1.8 Ohms at 50W? Clapton coils are wrapped from a wire that has another wire wound around it. Popular with cloud-chasing builds.

    With nic juice, leaking is just a messy inconvenience. With canna, it's heartbreaking. Puff Majic should be fine out of the bottle. Was the nic juice you added PG or VG?

    Loving current dual coil RDA build - six wraps 24AWG SS at 26.5J, 405F. Recommend RDAs over tanks for canna if only because you use a few drops at a time, instead of heating up your whole stash. It's easier than you might imagine. Typically drip just once a day.
     
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  11. Buns

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    Thank you for your response! Currently using a Divine Tribe V3 on a Teslacigs TC40W battery, mostly using honeycomb concentrate, hard to get the right temp settings. Looking to move to a more traditional e-cig set up, such as a rebuildable tank. I only have experience with the Nautilus tank for vaping, it wasn't bad. Heavily considering a drip set up as well.
     
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  12. Buns

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    Hey,I have your same thinking when it comes to canna-conversation ;) if you don't mind me asking a few questions regarding dripping....

    Could you recommend a RDA for dripping THC-EJuice? I am looking to dilute some THC oil (I think co2, around 70-75%THC) with a Holy Terp/Vapour Extract product, for longevity and frugality.

    Also, what do you suggest for a wicking element?

    Thanks!
     
  13. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    Evic (Vtwo mini?) and an original CUBIS tank, nice to see this gear catching on! :rockon:Way better than a "vape pen" :rolleyes:

    A few notes: it appears you have the original CUBIS (not the cubis pro or cubis pro mini) which lacks the top-air flow control, with the coil head mounting directly to the mouthpiece. While this tank does have the same leak-resistance as the other cubis tanks, the lack of airflow control reduces the adaptability of this tank. For your next tank fill-up, you may want to accquire a CUBIS Pro 4ml. :hmm:


    The residue under the mouthpiece is normal, probably a combination of condensed vapor and spitting juice. Every tank I've used will do this with continued use, to some extent. It may just drip back down into the coil and tank if it's not too viscous. If it becomes problematic or blocks the drip tip, just remove it and remove the blocking liquid / oil with a dab tool or toothpick.

    About your coil and settings, I'm a bit puzzled here. 1.18Ω is weird. As @Accept noted, you have the regular SS coils @ 0.50Ω, the claptons are about 1.5Ω, and also some Ti / Ni / "notched" SS coils around ~ 0.25Ω or so for TC. Your 1.18Ω is way in the murky middle there, I think you may have screwed a 0.5Ω SS coil onto the evic mod when it was just used and warmed, and you didn't have the coil Ω locked in? :sherlock: I can't imagine how your mod could mistake the 1.5Ω clapton as 1.18Ω

    The complete list of coil heads for the cubis series is here in the middle of the page

    If it's working for you, it's working, that's great. There should be no need to thicken or thin the juice further if your wick is staying wet. But you may want to try to remove the tank, let everything cool down fully for a few minutes and re-attach the tank (ensure ALL parts are screwed in tightly for good contact) to the mod and try to get a lower Ω, then "lock" that in, (until you change the coil, of course)

    Having the measured Ω off even a little (0.01-0.02Ω) can make the temp control act erratically, fluctuate, end even drop out of TC into watts / power mode. If that hasn't been happening to you, that's fine, but I think you can fine tune some variables still.

    420F is fine if accurate, but 50w is also more than needed for a 1 ohm or 1.5Ω coil. With temp control functioning, you shouldn't run the risk of burning anything up or damaging your equipment or your oil with excess power, but it also makes temperatures more peaky and less smooth. 50w is ok for the 0.5Ω or 0.2Ω coils, maybe 30w for the claptons? We need to identify just which coil you're using right now ;)

    But anyways, good luck with the tanx, I went and made my latest CBD tank for similar reasons as you. It's the perfect meds when I'm feeling stressed or anxious. Such times are when I really don't like to meticulously load non-liquid concentrates on a "layg" atomizer, so I have been favoring this new co2 tank lately as my lazy, go-to vape. :bowdown:

    Whether for thc, cbd, nicotine, terps, or some mix of these, a high-performing tank makes for some quick, effective, easy titration in a way that eating a cannacap or edible can't :doh:


    Thick oil or thinned juice, I think we've determined the CUBIS series is a good choice to avoid leakage, just pick the right size and coil head for your uses, or experiment and see what you like.

    For mixing juices, the big 4ml CUBIS pro might be a better choice for big capacity, and since your juice will be less viscous, it won't easily get stuck in the bigger nooks-and-crannies, fjords and canyons that every tank has, and you can swish it around to keep the coil wet, to use the last drop, in a way I can't do as easily with thicker co2 oil.

    If you try different coil heads, make sure you're using the right settings on your mod: using the correct TC mode to match your coil wire material, the proper wattage and temperate setting, and also ensuring the coil resistance measured on your mod is as low and accurate as you can get it.

    That depends on what your intended use is. Some live-resin type BHO prefilled in a 2 ohm cart and cut with PEG (blegh :() is "ready for use" but is also a pitiful travesty and desecration of a marvelous, pristine product, at least in my opinion, for my uses :shrug:

    You could get a pure, high-quality unadulterated co2 oil in a club, and it's 'ready for use' for general dabbing, "layg", vaping or eating, but it's not really ready for a majority of un-modified RTA type gear

    Yup, but it helps is you know exactly what you want and to do a little research. Alot of people dive into these kind of projects without really knowing why sometimes or knowing exactly what they want / expect out of it. ;) Set some specific goals :tup:

    My same thoughts on the temp and wattage settings, and the leakage issue as well. Seeing 70% thc co2 oil seep out of the bottom of my coils with my old MELO tanks was indeed heartbreaking and even more frustrating, :cuss: I'm quite happy I seem to have found a solution to the leakage! (? :huh:?)

    No doubt you're loving your built, wrapped coils, but for me, using a cotton wick and/or PG-VG makes my throat allergic :o so for "load as you go" vaping I highly prefer ceramic attys like the divine tribe - I feel the vape is much tastier and smoother with such atomizers...but hey, different strokes for different vapers :cool:That's why we're here sharing our different combos, formulas and experiences.

    At least with the cubis RTA and temp control set properly, I think I've found it's possible to vape a substantial amount of oil on the same coil continuously with minimal degradation and reclaim buildup. It seems what's remaining on my most heavily vaped and re-filled (pure cure) tank is mostly the non-cannabinoid, non-terpenoind, (un-vapeable) stuff, so I don't even really want to inhale that part of it! :D

    For sure, I am heating "my whole stash" a little bit with each hit. It is a compromise, in the sake of convenience, but i feel it has been well worth it, IME, and a minimal trade-off. :sherlock:



    Hmm...having issues finding the right spot on your DT v3? Don't be shy or intimidated by our haughty vape-nerdery :D hop into that thread and ask, there's plenty of cool people to offer help. I have not used any tesla mods myself, but I know of several guys that are using them successfully with DT 2.5 / 3.0s. From what I hear, the temp control is not quite as spot-on or adjustable as joyetech or DNA mods, but they still work just fine. I must concede the Divine Tribes aren't the easiest atty to setup, initially, if you are not very experienced, but once you get it dialed in.... my DT v3.0's rip waaaay harder than my tanks, it's just on me to keep them filled up with good stuff (and scrape away the reclaim after use)

    Load, use, reload, what a chore, right? :lol: :rolleyes: I could be so diligent, yet so lazy at times :shrug:
     
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  14. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    Hey guize n' galz, I want to follow up a with few more notes and corrections here:

    First off, I don't want to come off as some sort of abject shill for joyetech and their CUBIS tanks. I'm a big fan of their mods, and the tanks have been working well for me, but I'm sure there are other good, worthy tanks out there that are leak-resistant (with top-air-feeding?) that I'm simply not aware of, that might also work for my needs. I just haven't found them yet. Maybe they even come with ceramic, TC-able coils as a ready-made option, so I don't have to build my own? :shrug: If I found that, I would buy it and try it; it would probably be better than what I'm using now! :nod:

    So if any of you reading this know of other good RTAs and similar stuff that are leak-proof and works for your cannabis-liquid vaping needs, please come in here and share it with us! :tup:

    I actually want to receive all those newsletter ads that online vape stores send out frequently, it helps me keep up on general box-mod / e-cig vaping gear, even if I don't vape "juice" One relatively new type of atomizer that is becoming more popular are "RDTAs" - something of a hybrid between my center-mounted-coils that constantly wallow in a pool of oil or juice (RTA) and also a sturdy deck with posts to mount your own coil wire / heating element and wicking material, and to simply drip your contents on, as needed, a few drips at a time, no tank (RDA)

    theorem RTA (rdta?)

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    RDTAs try to give you the best of both, by offering ample, open deck space for custom coil building, and also alot of room for a large wick to dip into big tank space underneath. Some of these designs have top-air feeding, so there's no suspect hole at the bottom of the tank as a possible path for juice to leak down into... but they also tend to be O-ringed rather than screwed or threaded in, to emphasize convenience in cleaning / refilling rather than security against accidentally opening. This could be a problem for me, having 2 grams of pure co2 oil in a tank coming open in my pocket :o (do not want)

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    Hope my lazy image grabs allow you to see these :huh:

    There's a ton of different companies with different designs and models of their RDTAs with many differences, for sure, and I'm not up on all of them, but I think this style of atomizer can work well for those who want to build their own coils and also have a tank? I could probably fit a few ceramic donuts on the top sections of these things, even the larger 10 and 13mm donuts if I wanted to. But getting any type of wick material to carry my heavy, thick co2 oil from the bottom of the tank to the top deck could be a problem, I don't think it would work for me. For you thin juice guys, it would probably work fine.

    Since I must rule out cotton or cellulose wicks for my purposes, having the heating element wallow in a pool seems necessary. I haven't found an RDTA that might be well suited to my ceramic tank needs, but I'll keep my eyes open... :uhh:



    I gluttonously obtained another couple grams of this oil to hoard for my stash - I think I have enough CBD co2 refills for all of 2017 at least now :o

    With the data from my puff counter accumulating and knowing exactly how much I've put on my newest tank, I can now estimate puff dosage:

    About 2-3mg is vaped per puff...but on "session mode" with repeated puffs in a short duration, all the oil warms up and flows more freely and 4-5mg puffs can be piffed, still tasting great with no combustion too!

    Also, I use 3 / 5 air holes open on all my cubis tanks to get the best cloud for me, with the best balance of air volume, vapor production, flavor and heat.

    The club's meadow listing was more detailed for this co2 oil now than when it was initially listed - "rich blessings" is no longer a mystery strain ('the highest grade' is the maker of the oil)

    It is a cross of AC/DC (well known) and Good Medicine (new strain to me, green crack x tres dawg x harlequin)

    So I guess my strain radar is partially correct, and the good medicine side, probably adding some of those other subtle flavor notes without giving up much on CBD content

    "rich blessings" - at least for some things, in some ways....I feel truly blessed :o :| :bowdown: :)



    I have since bumped up to 400F, for a little moar' vape, still tasting fine :p

    Correction: The ~0.3 Ω coils actually force the battery to discharge 5-8 amps, not 3-5 as I said earlier. It was my ~ 0.7 Ω ceramic donuts with a max of 28w that tend to see the 3-5 amps. But my little evic basic is still giving about 70 puffs per charge.

    To help with the battery life, I am planning on making my next pair of replacement coil heads for these tanks and oils to be with the high-resistance 1.5 Ω ceramic donuts, not the 0.8 Ω ones that I am currently using.

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    Two 0.8Ωs with the wires cut short run in parallel usually measure in around 0.3Ω, so I'd assume two 1.5's in parallel would ohm in around 0.6Ω? The potential advantage of this should be a quicker temperature warm-up / ramp-up time, less maximum wattage needed, less battery usage and discharge, theoretically.

    The downside, possibly a more brutish, less accurate temp control (overshooting temp protection more, fluctuating more) because of the higher resistance, but not necessarily. :hmm::sherlock:

    When cool, my low resistance double donuts take almost 4 seconds to reach temperature protection @ 30w... a faster warm up with less watts and the same vapor production...a pair of the high resistance donuts might hold a slight advantage for my coil heads? I'll find out in a while (couple months?) after I retire and disect my most used coil & tank after vaping empty it's contents, and replace it with a new coil.....:uhh:

    I will use the cubis notchcoil casing (with the installed wick and coil removed, replaced with ceramics, of course) for the next round, for the larger juice-wicking holes already provided, but I'll still add more holes

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    I'll keep you guys posted. :tup:
     
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  15. natural farmer

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    Hey guys! Haven't gone through the thread yet but I've got a friend who would like to use some RSO oil mixed with ejuice in a mod like you are doing. Is this possible with RSO or will it be gross and mess coils with goo?
     
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  16. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    ACK! Rick simpson oil??? Please don't vape RSO... that's not what it's for... I have done it before, it is not good.

    Makes a mess, gross, gooey-crusty reclaim, foul taste and smell that is almost impossible to remove from most equipment, RSO is not for vaping ! ! !:puke: It is for eating :leaf::haw::science:

    I mean, if there are simply no other options available, and you insist on vaping, and that's all you have, it can be done, it will work, but with all those listed negative side-effects. Not worth it IMO. Eat it if that's the only thing your friend has.

    If he wants to vape some concentrate on a tank, get some good co2 coil, or BHOs thinned and mixed with solvents (the guys here are pros to help you with that) or "QWISO" (i still havent figured that out)

    I have done the RSOs on more primitive tanks as well as DT donuts, and it's never been good, so I wouldn't recommend it!

    But hey, no dumb questions, only the un-asked ones. :) No need for your friend to learn from his own mistakes when he can learn from mines.

    Also, nice of you to join the non-stop yapping on the DT thread, sauntering over from your beloved "project" thread home. I have browsed over that stuff also, quite interesting. I think some of you guys are the few who can actually teach some of us ceramic donut guys a thing or two about temp control. :D:bowdown:

    I've been meaning to make the dive into the 'my evic' software for my mods, to see if I can improve the TC function with better control, but I've been busy with these side-vape-projects, and also I'm kind of put-off by the h@x3r-ish-ness and 3rd-party-ness of that software. Not much resources online I can find, maybe some TC-mod-ceramic pioneers can look into that for us and post about it? ;)
     
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  17. natural farmer

    natural farmer Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your kind words buddy! :)

    This new TC thing is really moving things forward these days. Great things to come! :rockon:

    I told my friend to start with the last pages of this thread and that's why I asked, so he gets some good info from the start. I was almost sure it would be gross. I have tried vaping it as is... :puke: :lol::lol::lol: :tup:
     
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  18. Vape Donkey 650

    Vape Donkey 650 All vape, no smoke please.

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    For sure, my random euro-vape friend. :cool:This box mod and temp control thing is catching on, I think? I'm just now seeing you're in the ancient land of Graecia. Maybe lots of high-grade flowers and state-of-the-art concentrates aren't so readily available to you and your friend the way they are available to me, hence the RSO :huh: It's not like you're in, let's say, Albania, or Lebanon (barbarians :D)

    (j/k I love albanians and lebanese)

    I have become more aware of what an incredible bubble I live in, with the richness of cannabis that surrounds me :bowdown:








    I take back the last part too - i don't think I know any albanians



    :lol:
     
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  19. Smoke420

    Smoke420 New Member

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    Hi everyone, I've been reading this post for the last few months and the amount of work put in by so many, over such a long period of time is amazing. VapeDonkey you sir are the man, your extensive and informative post have helped me and I'm sure many others. If you ever have some time, you should make a video of your custom coil/atty.
    I have finally made a batch from some wax I got at the dispensary near me. I picked up 1 gram of wax, Green Crack 76% THC. I used Wax Liquidizer, just the plain version, no flavor added. I have read it had a nasty chemical taste in various corners of the internet. So I was kind of skeptical and just bought 15ml online. I followed the standard recipe on the bottle, which was 1g of concentrate to 2ml of Wax liquidizer and I used the double boil method in this tiny little beaker. It melted down easily and I mixed it around until it was clear. I ended up with about 3ml of juice altogether.
    I have the Pico Istick, I have used this for vaping regular ejuice over the last year. I love this little mod, it packs a punch. The Melo 3 was a good tank, but that shit leaked on me multiple times when I got it. I got a few other tanks, but I picked up the Smok Baby Beast a few months ago, and this tank is awesome. Vapor production is great, flavor is really good, and it doesn't leak. They have like 6 different coils you can buy for this tank, including a RBA. I ordered the RBA, to see it will work with some thc juice.
    Anyways I put in about .6ml in the baby beast, and let it soak for a minute, The coil in the Babybeast is .4ohms and hits good normally at about 42 watts for me, I took a small pull and noticed immediate that the smoke was way thicker than any vape I have ever tried. And it tasted like some good ganja. I took a big pull the second time and just love how thick and smooth the vapor is, and its potent. One more pull and I was on the moon.
    I finished what was in my tank eventually over the next few days, but i could see a sticky build up on the glass, Im sure the coil wont last long.

    [​IMG]IMG_20170111_101314 by dan000206, on Flickr
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  20. Accept

    Accept Well-Known Member

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    Personally, love the hand-machined decks from Alexandr Bozhko, but the Tsunami has similar airflow, is cheap and super-easy to build. @Filhote has tried a great variety of decks, so s/he is the expert.

    Joined FC to discuss wicking, disappointed that juice inevitably remains in the wick. (Tip: stick that wick in your vape bowl to get the last drops.) Tried cotton, rayon, ceramic - no clear winner. Never got around to SS mesh or wickless. Currently using Native Wicks, like cotton "bacon".

    Delicious, isn't it? The sweetness of the glycols brings out the floral notes of the oil. First hit of vaped flowers or low-temp dabs maybe more complex, but not as consistent, IME.
     
  21. looney2nz

    looney2nz Research Geek, Mad Scientist

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    42W???!!!

    Whoa! I think my DT v3 is maybe .7ohms, and I find 23-24W plenty!
    (on a eVic VTwin Mini)

    is Wax Liquidizer a PEG fluid? I'd look @ MCT.
     
  22. zor

    zor I hate the kids

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    Urgh

    I'm fucking pissed.

    Packed my half filled tank in my carry-on, arrived in CA last night and found that 90% of the god damn tank leaked. I'm glad I had the foresight to put it in a zip lock, I'm guessing the pressurization in the cabin fucked this up

    [​IMG]

    FUCK.


    I will reply to the responses to my previous post soon, I'm too mad to do so now.
     
  23. Accept

    Accept Well-Known Member

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    You brought dope to CA? :\

    Still, major bummer. Hope you recovered most. Could get as much full-strength out of the bag, then wash with PG. Use the wash to dilute your next prep.

    Lost so much working this out. It's a good thing it grows on trees!
     
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  24. mtnbike420

    mtnbike420 Well-Known Member

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    Hello all I'm interested in making my own juice to have a portable stealth way to medicate while on the go. After research I've decided on this vtc mini kit:

    http://www.myvaporstore.com/Joye-eVic-Basic-Starter-Kit-p/joye-vtn30.htm?1=1&CartID=1

    And adding some ni200 coils to to with it. For juice it seems the holy terp pure is getting solid reviews.

    Is this a good starter kit to go with? If anyone has input please advise. Thanks!
     
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  25. zor

    zor I hate the kids

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    Yeah, I agree that the resistance is odd, what is stranger is that by disconnecting and reconnecting the tank I got different readings! It now varies between 1.1 and 1.12. I have the correct coil selected on the mod, so I dunno what gives :( the coil is supposed to be 1 ohm, with wattage range up to 25W. I'll try lowering the power but if it's in TC mode would that really even matter?

    After the leakage and loss, I've cleaned up the tank as much as I can, unfortunately I get sputtering into my mouth if I take three consecutive pulls (about 3 seconds each). The liquid is HOT and I've burned my lips and tongue already.

    This is the same problem I have dealt with before, I'm getting fed up again. What is the core difference between this and ejuice which doesn't sputter, is it viscosity? I might just go get a 0mg nic ejuice and try adding that, but if I have vegetable glycerin, PG, and PEG would anyone here recommending adding one or more of those to my tank to alleviate the sputtering problem?

    Edit: I also see the word "Protected" pop up on the LCD when I hold the button down for 1+second....

    Haha @Accept, I was visiting family out there, I don't have time to try to find a source. I do wonder in my MA MMJ card would work out there though, of there is reciprocity. Anyway, I ended up tossing the loss, next time I will keep my juice in a separate bottle and add it when I arrive!
     
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