Here is a video I made to show how the VG Coil works so well with glass. The second hit sent me into a coughing fit, but I managed to his the stop button to spare everyone the sight.
VG Col video w/ LW bub
VG Col video w/ LW bub
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VapeNStone
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fucking A!!! I should be receiving mine in a day or two.Stu said:Here is a video I made to show how the VG Coil works so well with glass. The second hit sent me into a coughing fit, but I managed to his the stop button to spare everyone the sight.
VG Col video w/ LW bub
SD_haze
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i tried using the coil today with 14mm GonG (not a vertical load joint like yours) and it definitely wasn't very air tight.
not 100% air tight works fine with smoke but with vapor i find it makes the hits much too airy.
I could see any simple tubing could make an easy 100% seal (just using a super short amount of tubing)
not 100% air tight works fine with smoke but with vapor i find it makes the hits much too airy.
I could see any simple tubing could make an easy 100% seal (just using a super short amount of tubing)
SD_haze
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If you cover the intake hole of the coil while its in the joint, you can still breathe in a lot of air, even holding it down.
So maybe it works if you dont notice that but that just means you're having some fresh air mixed in.
That video definitely looked like a fat milk though.
I think i wasn't holding the flame quite as long as you did though, maybe it'll work better like that. I'll try tomorrow (friend's coil
)
So maybe it works if you dont notice that but that just means you're having some fresh air mixed in.
That video definitely looked like a fat milk though.
I think i wasn't holding the flame quite as long as you did though, maybe it'll work better like that. I'll try tomorrow (friend's coil
)
The Coil definitely is NOT airtight sitting in a bong/bubbler, but it hardly matters in my experience. The outside airflow has little to no effect on my hits as far as I can tell. It just fogs glass like nothing else... airtight or not.
Give it another go. Now I'm curious if it works with an angled stem or not.
Give it another go. Now I'm curious if it works with an angled stem or not.
charliedontsurf
Medical
A simple rubber O-ring for a normal 9mm stem will stretch enough to make the SS coil airtight within a 14mm Gong female. Any headshop'll have them.
It does indeed work just fine without being completely airtight, but will of course work better if it is.
It does indeed work just fine without being completely airtight, but will of course work better if it is.
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
darkrom said:AGBeer said:darkrom said:
And by this you mean.... LOL
By this I mean - Yessir.
Although I was touting how well this pipe works with a glass piece, I still use it quite frequently without it. (Especially for quick tokes when I dont have time to sit and bongit)
I would definitely be interested in a little rubber piece to make it more airtight (although its not necessarily needed) - I figure the little orange pieces on the Supreme might work rather well.
VapeNStone
Mark
I have a angled stem bong so when it gets here I'll let you know.Stu said:The Coil definitely is NOT airtight sitting in a bong/bubbler, but it hardly matters in my experience. The outside airflow has little to no effect on my hits as far as I can tell. It just fogs glass like nothing else... airtight or not.
Give it another go. Now I'm curious if it works with an angled stem or not.
darkrom
Great Scott!
AGBeer said:darkrom said:
Truth be told, I think my only complaint about this vape is the fact that it uses more than my MFLB.
So yeah, when Im trying to conserve - it sucks
I've noticed that with all lighter based vapes honestly. But then again they are harder hitters than the MFLB ever is (for me with 2700s)
darkrom
Great Scott!
After day 1 with the coil I am torn.
I get a MUCH better more even hit with a Bic lighter, but I can actually taste the butane especially when I exhale.
With the torch lighter it tastes better, but I feel like I'm getting a worse hit (besides the one accidental combustion lol)
I don't know how I feel about that situation because I don't want to be inhaling toxins, but I wanted a good hit.
I get a MUCH better more even hit with a Bic lighter, but I can actually taste the butane especially when I exhale.
With the torch lighter it tastes better, but I feel like I'm getting a worse hit (besides the one accidental combustion lol)
I don't know how I feel about that situation because I don't want to be inhaling toxins, but I wanted a good hit.
OhTheAgony
here for the chicks
That's why I don't use regular flame lighters with my lighter based vapes Darkrom, I really loath the taste.
Perhaps you should experiment a little more with a longer draw & the torch further away from the vape?
Perhaps you should experiment a little more with a longer draw & the torch further away from the vape?
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
Agreed... The torch is a little different of a learning curve and it does take a little finesse' to get it down pat.
The thing I like about the torch over the bic is the shortened heat up time. I can tend to take smaller 'puffs/hits' (if you will)
Plus, your VG will thank you down the road. I need to get a picture of my buddies SS VG that he used exclusively with a Bic for some time. The stone is brownish/yellow (from all of the flint dust) and the inner coil is blackened from soot. Ive had my SS coil for the same amount of time and have used nothing but the torch. HUGE difference
The thing I like about the torch over the bic is the shortened heat up time. I can tend to take smaller 'puffs/hits' (if you will)
Plus, your VG will thank you down the road. I need to get a picture of my buddies SS VG that he used exclusively with a Bic for some time. The stone is brownish/yellow (from all of the flint dust) and the inner coil is blackened from soot. Ive had my SS coil for the same amount of time and have used nothing but the torch. HUGE difference
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
What I like to try to do is vape in an area that is out of direct light. If you light your torch and look at it closer, you will see that you have 2 'aurora' (for lack of a better term)
A dark(er) blue (more solid) inner aurora - This one is usually the center/shorter part of the flame. This normally comes from the end of the nozzle itself. Outside of that, is a little less visible aurora of the torch flame - this cat can extend up to a half an inch from the inner aurora. THIS is the part of the flame that I let enter the VG, hence why its important to vape in a 'lower light' situation. Letting that little aurora guy into or near the opening tends to make me combust almost every time.
This is a good starting point for gauging the distance, in conjunction with the heat in your mouth. When it comes to the torch - further is better you will be surprised.
Good luck - Hopefully you will get it soon!
*Note* I do on occasion get the little extra toasty 'spot' on my herb, but this is a minor inconvenience and helps let me know that I need to start further away next time and come in closer if need be.
A dark(er) blue (more solid) inner aurora - This one is usually the center/shorter part of the flame. This normally comes from the end of the nozzle itself. Outside of that, is a little less visible aurora of the torch flame - this cat can extend up to a half an inch from the inner aurora. THIS is the part of the flame that I let enter the VG, hence why its important to vape in a 'lower light' situation. Letting that little aurora guy into or near the opening tends to make me combust almost every time.
This is a good starting point for gauging the distance, in conjunction with the heat in your mouth. When it comes to the torch - further is better you will be surprised.
Good luck - Hopefully you will get it soon!
*Note* I do on occasion get the little extra toasty 'spot' on my herb, but this is a minor inconvenience and helps let me know that I need to start further away next time and come in closer if need be.
darkrom
Great Scott!
Since I got this vape I can't tell if it is a coincidence or not but I have nasty spots on the roof of my mouth similar to the kind you'd expect from eating food that is way too hot, but with a nasty butane taste. I am pretty heavily grossed out and discouraged by this. Since I have anxiety and I hate the taste and feeling of shortness of breath from huffing butane, I'm not sure this is a vape I should keep. It works really well as a portable though. I can't help wondering if the "different" feeling highs have anything to do with the taste of butane and shortness of breath 
I know I am rather picky and sensitive to this stuff, but it is real for sure and not a figment of my anxiety lol.
I know I am rather picky and sensitive to this stuff, but it is real for sure and not a figment of my anxiety lol.
Hmmm darkrom, that isn't good news. I should be getting my coil in the post on Monday and had high hopes. What you've just posted sounds like excessive heat either coming from the metal or hot vapours scorching your mouth. Have you been hitting it through water or 'raw'?