http://ineedhemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/dtv3_guide.pdf
Please check out this guide a customer made for me .
Please check out this guide a customer made for me .
Divine Tribe atty's
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Steven
Well-Known Member
I like this guide. It's a good starting point for beginners. Great job to author. I do most of the things listed but I don't torch to clean my donut. I do torch the cups tho. Nothing wrong with cleaning the donut with a torch either I'm sure, I just don't clean mimes that way. For temporary cleaning with rolled up napkin, just make sure you are sill in tcr mode. This way, you can even wipe the donut or really get in the cracks with the napkin while firing the donut for short amounts of time without burning the napkin. Sometimes I even fold a napkin into a flat triangle spear head thin enough to get between the donut and cup wall, tilt and fire away as the napkin soaks up the reclaim. For my large donut, I just use 19w in power mode and just ride it til clean. The tcrs are close enough for tweaking. I actually even use 2 different tcrs on 2 different mods for the same size donuts. So yea those numbers are a very good ballpark Imo.
Steven
Well-Known Member
Check out the guide @divinetribe posted earlier. You can use the stock Ni tc, which has a TCR of about 600. Or you can get more refined results using tcr 245 or 345, depending on the donut size. You can play around with TCR a lot and still be safe. It's the wattage you must keep an eye on. Again, read the guide, it gives a very good starting point. Hope this helps
Thanks a bunch I was just reading that
Steven
Well-Known Member
So someone is actually making targeted airholes a few of us were talking about with Matt long ago. Interesting times where the direction of these attys are shifting towards. Will something like this be possible for future dt attys?
For Joyetech lovers and addicts, Joyetech came out with a new mini mod using a removable 18650 battery. It's has all the functions of an evic vtc but smaller, with curves, new firmware, a huge screen, and a large power button. This thing is probably the best looking Joyetech mod Imo. I'm not on the market for a mod, but for any of those looking for one with a removable 18650, this is the new mod to consider
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chimpybits
Well-Known Member
Joyetech eVic Primo Mini: Fast Tech, Joyetech
For Joyetech lovers and addicts, Joyetech came out with a new mini mod using a removable 18650 battery. It's has all the functions of an evic vtc but smaller, with curves, new firmware, a huge screen, and a large power button. This thing is probably the best looking Joyetech mod Imo. I'm not on the market for a mod, but for any of those looking for one with a removable 18650, this is the new mod to consider
clearlight
Well-Known Member
This is a very well written and thorough guide.
There is one point troubling me however.. the section detailing torch cleaning of the donut. That is quite a large paragraph devoted to extending the life of a $3.50 piece. The point just underneath that contains much more wisdom imho: "New donuts/cups are cheap - you can avoid most of the cleaning and torching by just … replacing the donut and cup…"
Ever looked at those under microscope? Even after a normal use cycle (few weeks - couple months), they look pretty beat up. I can't imagine after a use cycle and a torch cleaning.
We are doing this for health right? imho, a wiser primary recommendation would be to soak the base, mouthpiece and chassis but toss and replace the donut/cup. with maybe a side comment mentioning torch cleaning, but with a "try at your own risk" disclaimer.
personally i get the donut back to white in between each load but once a clean donut starts showing signs of surface flaking and sloughing off, i toss and replace it.
new donuts are only $3.50. a lot cheaper than new lungs. my very very humble opinion, but reusing donuts is not worth the risk. 3-4 weeks is about the most i expect out of a donut. 2 months absolute max. maybe its just the way i treat em, but when i look at a 2 month old donut under even a 60X hand microscope.. yuk!
Vape Donkey 650
All vape, no smoke please.
@clearlight, I vape for reasons of health, like you, but I'm not really sharing in your concern about the risks of using worn-in (broken-in?) donuts. Your concerns seem speculative, to me, unless you know much more than me about the composition and degradation of these donuts, how much can actually be absorbed into your lungs, and what level of dosage / exposure should one be concerned with? Not that I want to breathe in any amount of ceramic dust, really, but I don't think that I am right now?
If you know more or have referenced some resources, I hope you would share that with us.Out of about 15 DT donuts I currently use (not counting tanks) I've only noticed some very light flaking / chunking / nicks on 3 out of those 15 donuts , and those are some of my most heavily used, scraped donuts (Yes, I'm a proponent of the 200F scrape method with a dab tool to remove reclaim, I scrape the shit of out my donuts, but after reading about the heated-napkin method for reclaim removal and trying it, I see I don't have to scrape so much now)
All of these donuts have been used for several months at least, a few close to a year?
I can't remember the exact moment when these chunks broke off, but it seems to have been sudden; a chunk broken off from me contacting it, not a slow, granular erosion of the donut to reveal nicks and scratches. A little dent suddenly appears around the edge where nothing was noticed before.
So let's just hypothesize, if actual airborne dust / particulate matter from the ceramic / alumina donut can be generated, and not just inert small chunks or grains that will stick to your reclaim and be rinsed / cleaned off later.
Wouldn't most, if not nearly all, of that dust end up getting stuck to the sticky mouthpiece insides? And if not, then your tongue/mouth/tonsils/mucosa, and be naturally excreted through salivation / swallowing, and not really get a chance to deposit in your lungs?
If so, what is the size of the particulate matter from the donut? IDK?
IDK much about particulate pollution, but I know certain size particulates can be much more harmful than others, and determine how deeply it can be absorbed?I also use a water tool with my DT v3's over 90% of the time, if there really were alumina particulates in my vapor stream, wouldn't my water trap nearly 100% of them?
I took a 40x hand scope to look at some of my donuts closely, I wasn't surprised or grossed out by what I saw. The main thing you can see at that zoom that I can't see with my naked eyes is the rougher micro-texture of the donut, which feels very smooth at 1x but has micro-roughness at zoom. And there were tiny dark specks in such crevices, most likely from being used and burned-off. @clearlight, Is that what was yucking you out? I looked at an un-used donut and it has the same rough texture, it's just more uniformly clean.
If you're so concerned with ceramic dust in your lungs, I don't see why you would use ceramic heaters of any sort, at all, since I think the dust problem would be present from the 1st hit on a new donut, although perhaps increasing with use and age? You would only be safe with metal coil wire atomizers then, despite their many other drawbacks.
Matt had the off-gassing test of the V3 done months ago, and I'm still wondering why he hasn't released either the raw or interpreted results of the test to the general FC public. He did share the test results with some people, and although I'm not capable of interpreting it myself, or do I know the exact parameters of the test, what it was and wasn't looking for, the test results showed close to zero particulate emissions, ( <10 nanograms IIRC) from what I can tell. Although the test was done with a brand new donut; it would be interesting to test a well-worn donut too.
Sorry for the long counter-rant, but if you can provide some more resources to illustrate your health concerns about using donuts, I'd like to hear about it, and many others as well, likely.
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PPN
Volute of Vapor
That dry herb atty is a pleasure to use, the first on-demand conduction vape I ever tested!
Hi @OF is the summit+ is it working similarly to the DC... I remenber you mentionned the Summit was a on-demand vape? Sorry it's slightly off-topic, I'm just trying to know if another dry herb vape get similar in function....
Hi @OF is the summit+ is it working similarly to the DC... I remenber you mentionned the Summit was a on-demand vape? Sorry it's slightly off-topic, I'm just trying to know if another dry herb vape get similar in function....
OF
Well-Known Member
Yes, I think both Summit and Summit+ are successful/useful efforts. For a number of small reasons I prefer the original usually. I use the Gen 2 cart more often, however. The Summit battery is limited and you have to recharge in place. The Gen 2 lets you control that better (easy to use a mod with a bigger battery or often better still one you can swap in charged backup batteries?
OF
Enjoying this tag team!
clearlight
Well-Known Member
@Vape Donkey 650 so i set out to get pictures of this so you could see rather than just my lousy description but in doing so, and then cleaning more and taking more pictures.. i think i proved myself wrong. the white stuff flaking off turned out to be white char or ash type substance rather than the donut material itself.
the black would all burn away but the white stuff leftover looked like the donut was getting all fibrous and porous. Then when anything like a toothpick scraped against it, the fibrous material would break loose. once i even pulled a bb back out after loading and it had a white bottom.
but after more closely examining the situation, then doing a more hard core clean, it's clear that the donut i was about to toss, as is my custom, has 100% integrity, although not as clean as it was originally. i don't have a torch but did the version where you hook up the naked donut with cup or base and pulse it and blow on it occasionally. got it clean enough to keep using.
but i didn't. bc i didn't want to bother with cleaning the cup too.. so in future i'll still toss and replace but in a more honest way with myself in that the reason is became i'm lazy af.
and i'm not so concerned about ceramic dust- i still think this is absolutely the safest way to ingest cannabis with your lungs. but any method can have limits. i don't think the off gas testing was done w a 6 month old donut after it's been torched and scraped.
but yeah i was wrong about the surfaces of the donuts losing integrity from normal use. you can probably safely get a lot longer life out these bigger donuts than the 6-8 weeks i said.
the black would all burn away but the white stuff leftover looked like the donut was getting all fibrous and porous. Then when anything like a toothpick scraped against it, the fibrous material would break loose. once i even pulled a bb back out after loading and it had a white bottom.
but after more closely examining the situation, then doing a more hard core clean, it's clear that the donut i was about to toss, as is my custom, has 100% integrity, although not as clean as it was originally. i don't have a torch but did the version where you hook up the naked donut with cup or base and pulse it and blow on it occasionally. got it clean enough to keep using.
but i didn't. bc i didn't want to bother with cleaning the cup too.. so in future i'll still toss and replace but in a more honest way with myself in that the reason is became i'm lazy af.
and i'm not so concerned about ceramic dust- i still think this is absolutely the safest way to ingest cannabis with your lungs. but any method can have limits. i don't think the off gas testing was done w a 6 month old donut after it's been torched and scraped.
but yeah i was wrong about the surfaces of the donuts losing integrity from normal use. you can probably safely get a lot longer life out these bigger donuts than the 6-8 weeks i said.
Steven
Well-Known Member
It is 100% possible to get a filthy, charred donut to completely white without any scraping whatsoever. I completely stopped scraping once the v3 came out. Since everything can be broken down, I don't see a need for scraping.
For cleaning with a mod, place the donut onto the posts without the cup and barely screw in the post. Only screw in just enough to get a resistance reading. I haven't used a medium donut for over 6months so I don't remember the setting for those. For a large donut I literally ride the power at 19w in power mode for a straight minute or so. I just keep recycling the power continuously, no pulsing until I see all white. Sometimes I would need to wipe off the ash and do it again, but by the end, the donut is completely free of any char, top and bottom. I just wipe away the ash when I'm done, no scraping needed.
The only issue I can see with this is that the mod gets a bit hot but not any hotter than when it charging. At its peak, I've gotten the mod temp to 120 F by cleaning with continuous 19w. However I've also seen my mod get to 120F when it is charging sometimes
Just be sure not to handle the donut until it fully cools down. Meaning after the heat cleaning, do not immediately remove the donut from the posts and install it back into the cup. When the donut gets to high Temps, the leads should not be tampered with at all to maintain its longevity. It takes me months to go through 1 donut and I only cycle between 2 donuts and I'm a daily heavy user.
I use my gas stove top to torch the cups and I use a q tip and alcohol to clean the housing. I do a this type of cleaning maybe every 2-3 days or so. While everyday, I do temporarily cleaning with napkins to soak up reclaim. On lazy days, I'll even just only remove the housing to do the 19w burnout with donut in cup while I use napkins to soak up reclaim from cup and Posts. However, this method will leave me with a black, dirty looking cup, but it doesn't affect flavor as much as I would think. Like I said, lazy days...
For cleaning with a mod, place the donut onto the posts without the cup and barely screw in the post. Only screw in just enough to get a resistance reading. I haven't used a medium donut for over 6months so I don't remember the setting for those. For a large donut I literally ride the power at 19w in power mode for a straight minute or so. I just keep recycling the power continuously, no pulsing until I see all white. Sometimes I would need to wipe off the ash and do it again, but by the end, the donut is completely free of any char, top and bottom. I just wipe away the ash when I'm done, no scraping needed.
The only issue I can see with this is that the mod gets a bit hot but not any hotter than when it charging. At its peak, I've gotten the mod temp to 120 F by cleaning with continuous 19w. However I've also seen my mod get to 120F when it is charging sometimes
Just be sure not to handle the donut until it fully cools down. Meaning after the heat cleaning, do not immediately remove the donut from the posts and install it back into the cup. When the donut gets to high Temps, the leads should not be tampered with at all to maintain its longevity. It takes me months to go through 1 donut and I only cycle between 2 donuts and I'm a daily heavy user.
I use my gas stove top to torch the cups and I use a q tip and alcohol to clean the housing. I do a this type of cleaning maybe every 2-3 days or so. While everyday, I do temporarily cleaning with napkins to soak up reclaim. On lazy days, I'll even just only remove the housing to do the 19w burnout with donut in cup while I use napkins to soak up reclaim from cup and Posts. However, this method will leave me with a black, dirty looking cup, but it doesn't affect flavor as much as I would think. Like I said, lazy days...
bizwaxzion
Enigmatic Cannabist
For Joyetech lovers and addicts, Joyetech came out with a new mini mod using a removable 18650 battery. It's has all the functions of an evic vtc but smaller, with curves, new firmware, a huge screen, and a large power button. This thing is probably the best looking Joyetech mod Imo. I'm not on the market for a mod, but for any of those looking for one with a removable 18650, this is the new mod to consider
@Steven - This has sparked my MAS in a serious way. I just checked the arcticfox page and it appears that support for the primo was added a couple builds ago. One is now on the way from fasttech...
Steven
Well-Known Member
Yea I'm still so tempted to get one but I really have no need for another mod. Maybe I should be clumsy and have one of my mods fall out of pocket to give me a reason. Imo this is the best looking mod out there right now, and combined with its price and custom firmware, it has both function and form. Probably not real carbon fiber but I've heard that the quality of whatever it is is really well done. This thing has stellar reviews from all the video reviews I've seen. My wismec presa mod is still running strong like new, but maybe you can rub the primo mini in my face when you get it to push me over the edge to get one
bizwaxzion
Enigmatic Cannabist
You bet I will! I love the roundedness of the pico, but it's a little too short (the battery cover also frustrates me a bit) and lacks a large display. The vtwo mini is just the right height - but slighly boxy. I'm hoping the primo mini is a perfect marriage of the two. I didn't really need another mod either (just got the wismec rxmini a couple weeks ago) and this will be the fifth. Mods now outnumber atomizers - might be the perfect excuse to pick up a DC v2 to try out.
Steven
Well-Known Member
I think you made a wise choice for your concern. I also think the beloved Joyetech mods are plagued with boxy mods that are not the most ergonomic (besides the pico and some others I missed). In comes the primo mini. Ive been looking at many video reviews and the thing is all curves.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
I know that your requirements are slightly different (DT attys being rather short) but now even if I find the Primo Mini very attractive, I wouldn't want anything else than a side-by-side mod design (at least for attys below 23mm diameter)
I'm re-posting here the good ECF thread about that "SBS" trend, it explains indirectly how it evolved: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/listing-side-by-side-mods.706607/
I've been enjoying the Smoant Knight V2 myself, and for longer attys and stem-as-a-bowl's like the Project the form factor is so much better. It also offers some protection for the atty and this is quite welcome with the latest version which is all-glass.
Being only interested by single cell mods (I don't need more than 40W in practice, and I don't mind swapping cells as long as it's quick and easy) here's a selection of candidates for your next MAS surge:
- Tesla Stealth 70W ($33) >> interesting but no custom TCR and no USB port
- Athena eNVy Plus 75W ($34) >> bad reviews about TC implementation
- KangerTech JUPPI 75W ($44) >> some poster in the thread said Kanger TC implementation is crap
- Wismec Reuleaux RX75 ($26 on sale @ FT) >> not really SBS, compatible with custom firmwares
- Vaporesso Attitude 80W ($38) >> barely SBS but nice
- JomoTech Lite 76ERS ($30) >> not really SBS but kind of a Pico clone (they also make herb vapes)
- Smoktech SMOK AL85 ($37) >> another very similar to Pico
Note: the last two are for reference, unless you find them prettier I think the Pico would be a better choice due to the availability of custom firmwares.
Note2: for the Kanger JUPPI the guy said that TC was crap for previous devices but wasn't talking about this particular model. I don't know how well or bad it works.
Note3: the Tesla is not bad at first glance but I think the Knight V2 is a better choice.
Note4: I didn't list SBS mods with integrated batteries but there are quite some nice ones, refer to the thread for reference.
Note5: there's also the Innokin VTR but it's only VW AFAIK.
I'm on a shopping spree! I like the Vaporesso, I'll try to find some reviews... And maybe a metal finish Pico...and damn that Primo Mini is sweet too! Wait?!! Didn't I just say...?! Doh!
I'm re-posting here the good ECF thread about that "SBS" trend, it explains indirectly how it evolved: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/listing-side-by-side-mods.706607/
I've been enjoying the Smoant Knight V2 myself, and for longer attys and stem-as-a-bowl's like the Project the form factor is so much better. It also offers some protection for the atty and this is quite welcome with the latest version which is all-glass.
Being only interested by single cell mods (I don't need more than 40W in practice, and I don't mind swapping cells as long as it's quick and easy) here's a selection of candidates for your next MAS surge:
- Tesla Stealth 70W ($33) >> interesting but no custom TCR and no USB port
- Athena eNVy Plus 75W ($34) >> bad reviews about TC implementation
- KangerTech JUPPI 75W ($44) >> some poster in the thread said Kanger TC implementation is crap
- Wismec Reuleaux RX75 ($26 on sale @ FT) >> not really SBS, compatible with custom firmwares
- Vaporesso Attitude 80W ($38) >> barely SBS but nice
- JomoTech Lite 76ERS ($30) >> not really SBS but kind of a Pico clone (they also make herb vapes)
- Smoktech SMOK AL85 ($37) >> another very similar to Pico
Note: the last two are for reference, unless you find them prettier I think the Pico would be a better choice due to the availability of custom firmwares.
Note2: for the Kanger JUPPI the guy said that TC was crap for previous devices but wasn't talking about this particular model. I don't know how well or bad it works.
Note3: the Tesla is not bad at first glance but I think the Knight V2 is a better choice.
Note4: I didn't list SBS mods with integrated batteries but there are quite some nice ones, refer to the thread for reference.
Note5: there's also the Innokin VTR but it's only VW AFAIK.
I'm on a shopping spree! I like the Vaporesso, I'll try to find some reviews... And maybe a metal finish Pico...and damn that Primo Mini is sweet too! Wait?!! Didn't I just say...?! Doh!
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Bad Ocelot
Well-Known Member
Nice! Been wanting to try one of those! Can't wait to try one out! Curious about the capacity & minimum amount that can be used effectively.
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That new joyetech looks great, I may have to get one as I've been wanting something 18650 ready for when I need more capacity than my Evic Basic can provide.
Vape Donkey 650
All vape, no smoke please.
I'm happy that we finally have the first test production of these "vape donkey" tanks to try out 
but we got alot of work to do still. We need to see the airflow opened up big time on the coils, and the cotton wicks that are with this first batch of coil heads is holding back the flavor and performance as well. I'd like to see if we can use the ceramic readyXwick somehow, despite the export restrictions on that material, even if we have to wick these up manually by hand here in cali and limit them to US customers! 
(America first?) 
Either that or figure out a wickless coil head. 
I'd also love to see as many as possible of the atomizer coil heads options be "RBA" and capable of easily being taken apart to be cleaned, re-wicked, and have the ability to easily install or swap out any heater or coil that can fit inside.
There's some good in the beta version...I like the internal structure of the tank, it's smooth and doesn't have any useless notches or structures for stray oil to stick to, although there's some room for improvement here too.
The new 5mm donuts are a nice touch too. I didn't know they made em that small! Even though I can't see them inside this coil head, they're working well. The small donuts can be optimized with a tiny coil head case to match them and minimize the amount of un-needed metal structure.
Here's some teaser vids; forgive my bad lighting, I'm trying to show the vape clouds. And I'm always struggling with the focus.
I can't make vids as good as @WakeAndVape, but it's a little sumthin...
Divine Tribe / SZ crossing "Vape Donkey" prototype tank with 0.5 Ω double donut coil head, with HTFSE, followed up by an "alpha ɑ" model VD double donut coil (high Ω) on the cubis pro mini with CBD-rich co2 oil. We need to match the air and juice flow on the production models that my craft coils have.
and a demo of 2 more of my ɑ VD coils. The steel pico has the high Ω donuts with "pure cure" oil while the black pico has the low Ω donuts and is filled with a very thick, tasty pure kush co2 oil from california sap.
I love how that real thick co2 oil CRACKLES when it warms up good 
And a close-up of my whole VD tank family at the moment, since the videos have poor focus for you. DT-VD in the middle. (pink pico with amber diesel california sap co2 oil)
I had one proto-type tank loaded up with just about 500mg of the very runny htfse, and that was just enough to wick up one of the coils and start some puffs, but the visible oil in the tank quickly got absorbed and it looked empty after wicking up, even though it gave me several dozen puffs after that.
The max capacity as of now looks to be about 1.5g, the coil takes up alot of space in the tank, but the minimum amount of oil to get started and max capacity will depend partially on the type of oil you fill it with (it's density). The runny htfse, and perhaps BHOs thinned with PEG
will also wick up easily with a small amount. Thick co2 oil may require a higher starting load since it doesn't flow as easily.
And much of this may not matter in the end since it's just an early testing model!
@clearlight, thanks for clearing that up. I think I know what you're talking about with the white ash. I've noticed it once or twice after I burn a donut clean, and I run my fingertip across the clean white donut afterwards, you may see a very slight, fine white powder on your finger. I never really thought much of this. Like the ashy char one would wipe off their e-nail after burning it clean, but much less. After you wipe that off, or burn it clean again, it doesn't seem to repeat that white ash until soiled and burned clean again, so I think we're good. For those of us who like to get their V3s super clean during full break-downs, it may be worth it to wipe this ashy residue off or to re-rinse and dry out the donut real quick after a burn-off.
And I don't think you're "lazy af" just because you discard good donuts and cups rather than clean them all the way. At least you're still making an effort to keep your gear clean, and you're making some coherent posts, so maybe you're just "pretty damn lazy"
Yup, when I was making my normal rounds @ the joyetech / eleaf news room, that one caught my eye. I feel like I just cheated myself, or mis-timed my last purchase, because I got the regular evic Primo to test some of these new tanks and also mess around with the new v2 dry herb cart. I don't really need 2-cells, but it's nice for the DC, and my donut coils at 0.30 Ω can be power-hungry too. But then right after that, they screwed me by coming out with the the evic primo 2. (only difference: 2 amp charging instead of 1.5 amp, NBD)
But then they come out with this primo mini!
I like my big primo still, with the nice metal colors, it's smaller than my big cuboid, but this mini primo clearly is the next gen. 
I haven't seen support for any of these new mods with myevic or arcticfox, maybe I'm not looking at the newest release? I would install it ASAP if i could.
Nice! Is that the smok alien 85 or something that we were talking about earlier? Looks very nice, well matched with the black V3. It's like a pico but with a much nicer screen. How's the TC performance with that mod?
Your wood-clad mod that you have the V2 DC on...it's way too big
but we got alot of work to do still. We need to see the airflow opened up big time on the coils, and the cotton wicks that are with this first batch of coil heads is holding back the flavor and performance as well. I'd like to see if we can use the ceramic readyXwick somehow, despite the export restrictions on that material, even if we have to wick these up manually by hand here in cali and limit them to US customers! (America first?) Either that or figure out a wickless coil head. I'd also love to see as many as possible of the atomizer coil heads options be "RBA" and capable of easily being taken apart to be cleaned, re-wicked, and have the ability to easily install or swap out any heater or coil that can fit inside.
There's some good in the beta version...I like the internal structure of the tank, it's smooth and doesn't have any useless notches or structures for stray oil to stick to, although there's some room for improvement here too.
The new 5mm donuts are a nice touch too. I didn't know they made em that small! Even though I can't see them inside this coil head, they're working well. The small donuts can be optimized with a tiny coil head case to match them and minimize the amount of un-needed metal structure.
Here's some teaser vids; forgive my bad lighting, I'm trying to show the vape clouds. And I'm always struggling with the focus.
I can't make vids as good as @WakeAndVape, but it's a little sumthin...Divine Tribe / SZ crossing "Vape Donkey" prototype tank with 0.5 Ω double donut coil head, with HTFSE, followed up by an "alpha ɑ" model VD double donut coil (high Ω) on the cubis pro mini with CBD-rich co2 oil. We need to match the air and juice flow on the production models that my craft coils have.
and a demo of 2 more of my ɑ VD coils. The steel pico has the high Ω donuts with "pure cure" oil while the black pico has the low Ω donuts and is filled with a very thick, tasty pure kush co2 oil from california sap.
I love how that real thick co2 oil CRACKLES when it warms up good And a close-up of my whole VD tank family at the moment, since the videos have poor focus for you. DT-VD in the middle. (pink pico with amber diesel california sap co2 oil)
I had one proto-type tank loaded up with just about 500mg of the very runny htfse, and that was just enough to wick up one of the coils and start some puffs, but the visible oil in the tank quickly got absorbed and it looked empty after wicking up, even though it gave me several dozen puffs after that.
The max capacity as of now looks to be about 1.5g, the coil takes up alot of space in the tank, but the minimum amount of oil to get started and max capacity will depend partially on the type of oil you fill it with (it's density). The runny htfse, and perhaps BHOs thinned with PEG
will also wick up easily with a small amount. Thick co2 oil may require a higher starting load since it doesn't flow as easily.And much of this may not matter in the end since it's just an early testing model!
@clearlight, thanks for clearing that up. I think I know what you're talking about with the white ash. I've noticed it once or twice after I burn a donut clean, and I run my fingertip across the clean white donut afterwards, you may see a very slight, fine white powder on your finger. I never really thought much of this.
Like the ashy char one would wipe off their e-nail after burning it clean, but much less. After you wipe that off, or burn it clean again, it doesn't seem to repeat that white ash until soiled and burned clean again, so I think we're good. For those of us who like to get their V3s super clean during full break-downs, it may be worth it to wipe this ashy residue off or to re-rinse and dry out the donut real quick after a burn-off.And I don't think you're "lazy af" just because you discard good donuts and cups rather than clean them all the way. At least you're still making an effort to keep your gear clean, and you're making some coherent posts, so maybe you're just "pretty damn lazy"
For Joyetech lovers and addicts, Joyetech came out with a new mini mod using a removable 18650 battery. It's has all the functions of an evic vtc but smaller, with curves, new firmware, a huge screen, and a large power button. This thing is probably the best looking Joyetech mod Imo. I'm not on the market for a mod, but for any of those looking for one with a removable 18650, this is the new mod to consider
Yup, when I was making my normal rounds @ the joyetech / eleaf news room, that one caught my eye. I feel like I just cheated myself, or mis-timed my last purchase, because I got the regular evic Primo to test some of these new tanks and also mess around with the new v2 dry herb cart. I don't really need 2-cells, but it's nice for the DC, and my donut coils at 0.30 Ω can be power-hungry too.
But then right after that, they screwed me by coming out with the the evic primo 2. (only difference: 2 amp charging instead of 1.5 amp, NBD)But then they come out with this primo mini!
I like my big primo still, with the nice metal colors, it's smaller than my big cuboid, but this mini primo clearly is the next gen. I haven't seen support for any of these new mods with myevic or arcticfox, maybe I'm not looking at the newest release? I would install it ASAP if i could.
Enjoying this tag team!
Nice! Is that the smok alien 85 or something that we were talking about earlier? Looks very nice, well matched with the black V3. It's like a pico but with a much nicer screen. How's the TC performance with that mod?
Your wood-clad mod that you have the V2 DC on...it's way too big
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looney2nz
Research Geek, Mad Scientist
been on very sporadically lately mobility fun
I'll check out those videos in a little while
I have a tank set up for CBD and a tank set up for THC, once I clean my 1st tank (noob error!) I can use that for hybrids or Live Resin.
I was a very early adopter, and my only caution (aside from the noob error of NEVER OPEN THE DAMN TANK after it has been filled) is don't put more than 1.5ml in the 2ml tank, just DON'T.
That said, all 3 of my tank setups (currently on eVic VTwin Mini's with standard firmware, that will likely change in the near future, I want to take a crack at the new open source firmware) pull like a freight-train the bulk of the time... gorgeous hits. When the tank, atomizer and oil are cold, it will take a brief amount of time to warm things sufficiently for everything to flow. When it's still cold, you'll find blockages popping up (but they are relatively easy to resolve, gently).
Works incredibly well for CO2 oils (which is almost all I use).
mobility funI'll check out those videos in a little while
I have a tank set up for CBD and a tank set up for THC, once I clean my 1st tank (noob error!) I can use that for hybrids or Live Resin.
I was a very early adopter, and my only caution (aside from the noob error of NEVER OPEN THE DAMN TANK after it has been filled) is don't put more than 1.5ml in the 2ml tank, just DON'T.
That said, all 3 of my tank setups (currently on eVic VTwin Mini's with standard firmware, that will likely change in the near future, I want to take a crack at the new open source firmware) pull like a freight-train the bulk of the time... gorgeous hits. When the tank, atomizer and oil are cold, it will take a brief amount of time to warm things sufficiently for everything to flow. When it's still cold, you'll find blockages popping up (but they are relatively easy to resolve, gently).
Works incredibly well for CO2 oils (which is almost all I use).