Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

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Jethro

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Does anyone else find that their Pax's battery is extremely sensitive to cold? I left mine out in my car when it was maybe, 50 degrees out the other day, chilly but not TOO bad, and the cold completely sapped the battery after like an hour.

Yes, big time. I find when I am out ice fishing or snowmobiling I try and keep it in a warm, interior jacket pocket.
 
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mrbonsai420

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Aww man. I bought a Pax a few years ago and only used it occasionally for stealth purposes. It honestly has under 30 charge cycles on it. I recently decided to Fuck Combustion completely since I bought an Underdog. So when I went to use my Pax for the first time in a few months, I was now going to use this as my daily driver for the first time since I made the purchase. First I lost the charger a while back. So I went to a friends house with the same purple Pax 1 and mine does not charge anymore? It does nothing. No lights of any kind. His charged fine so I know it wasn't the charger.

I hear Pax warranty is good and is the main reason I went with it over the competition. Hopefully they will have her up and running in no time. I guess I'm back to smoking flower and concentrates in the car until then. :ugh:

Also, I need to pick up another charger of my own for it if I ever do get it running. Anyone have an extra?
 
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Jethro

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When my first Pax went belly up I sent it back and kept the charger and everything- when they sent it back it was just a brand new Pax in the box still in the wrapper, so now I have two Pax chargers. HOWEVER, my feeling is when you send yours back they will not repair it, they will replace it, and likely with a 2nd generation Pax and you'll get the entire thing. Or if they still have originals, you may get an entire kit like I did.

BUT, if you get your Pax 1 back and it's just repaired and you get no new charger, let me know. I use my spare one as a travel charger and it lives in my overnight kit, but I really don't need it that much.

Do yourself a favor mrbonsai420... if you are going to use Pax as a daily driver, get a backup. I am super impressed with my Arizer Solo.
 
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Thanks Jethro! I'll let you know how the warranty replacement goes. I do love my friends Solo. It reminds me of my underdog on the road just a lot more restrictive. But the Pax is SO discreet so I need that for concerts anyway. I really hope they get mine up and running.

I think I may also get a Haze V3.0 as my second road vape but I haven't decided.
 
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Andre18000

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Hi guys, i've had my pax1 for almost close to a year now and i absolutely love it. It has been my daily go to vaporizer. I also have a crafty

Until recently, i've had problems the white temp button. It seems to be stuck. I normally start out with medium temp, and then finish off under high level. I've had to press hard several times for it to work. Now, it won't change.

I've read in a different forum from a user of the same problem, he had contacted Pax and was instructed to dampen a qtip with iso and rub around the edges of the button. Tried that with no success.

Im so bummed right now as its stuck on the low setting. haaay. Anyone can give me advise on how i can remedy this problem? much appreciated FC fam.
 
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Delta3DStudios

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Hi guys, i've had my pax1 for almost close to a year now and i absolutely love it. It has been my daily go to vaporizer. I also have a crafty

Until recently, i've had problems the white temp button. It seems to be stuck. I normally start out with medium temp, and then finish off under high level. I've had to press hard several times for it to work. Now, it won't change.

I've read in a different forum from a user of the same problem, he had contacted Pax and was instructed to dampen a qtip with iso and rub around the edges of the button. Tried that with no success.

Im so bummed right now as its stuck on the low setting. haaay. Anyone can give me advise on how i can remedy this problem? much appreciated FC fam.
sounds like honey has built up around or under the switch. Really not sure what you can do about it. Do you live somewhere hot this time of the year? I'd suggest maybe leaving it in your car in an upright position on a hot summer day to slowly loosen that honey and hopefully settle somewhere less obtrusive?

That's my only suggestion aside from calling Pax and seeing what they say
 
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mrbonsai420

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I'm still waiting on Pax to reply to my case. How long before you guys heard from Pax after emailing support and getting a case #? I received a case # Sunday but nothing since.
 
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Jethro

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Mmm, it took a few days, maybe 3 or 4 but it definitely happened. I remember being a little concerned myself, but it all worked out. I know this... I will never go without a backup. And a backup for the backup. When my Pax stopped heating I had to go back to joints and bowls. NASTY. I HATE SMOKING. What a waste of such a beautiful flower.
 
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Good find I will have to pick one up when I have a couple extra dollars, Has anyone used the Pax loader tool seen in the suggestions on the same page? It looks like that could probably reduce what i typically carry, It also looks as if it would also work perfect with my crafty, and all I would need is my vape of choice, some ground up herb in my jyarz container, and this loading tool. Just looking for some possible feedback before dishing out the $20 bucks

Edit: Too late you guys took too long, already ordered and on the way. Will keep you guys posted
 
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Im so bummed right now as its stuck on the low setting. haaay. Anyone can give me advise on how i can remedy this problem? much appreciated FC fam.
Very tiny smear of pax lube or pg on your finger & rub it all sexy like around the rim of the button then warm it up, should come unstuck pretty quickly. Worked for me.
 

Colargol

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Hi!

I have a probably fake PAX that stopped working after I tried to clean it. It just doesn't turn on anymore. The battery is fine. I took it apart and it looks almost identical to your picture. What I can't figure out is how the circuit board is supposed to know whether the mouthpiece is inserted and if it's pushed in or popped out. (I believe it works the same way as a genuine PAX, but I don't know how.) I'd really appreciate a good explanation. Thanks!

That's not the temperature control button, that's a piece of plastic that simply covers the LED so that the light is distributed more evenly in the X cutout. You can't remove the temp control button. It's under the white plastic block in the upper left of this picture:

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It's not easy to tell from this picture but that dark grey blob at the end of the switch is actually a connection to the PCB.

I just wanted to make this point before someone assumed that you can fix a stuck temperature switch by opening the Pax.
 
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pakalolo

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Hi!

I have a probably fake PAX that stopped working after I tried to clean it. It just doesn't turn on anymore. The battery is fine. I took it apart and it looks almost identical to your picture. What I can't figure out is how the circuit board is supposed to know whether the mouthpiece is inserted and if it's pushed in or popped out. (I believe it works the same way as a genuine PAX, but I don't know how.) I'd really appreciate a good explanation. Thanks!

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The ribbon wiring that you see wrapped around the top senses the position of the magnet in the mouthpiece. You can demonstrate this by removing the MP and sliding the magnet side up and down directly above the petals. It will turn on and off.
 
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Colargol

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Thanks! Unfortunately, I damaged the ribbon connector when I unsoldered it to see what's underneath the circuit board. :( I thought it was just for the charging contacts.

Modnote: Back to back posts merged

Shit! Now I understand why it stopped working... The magnet fell out. I found it but I didn't know where it's supposed to go.
 
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worf

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Hi. Long time lurker here. Mostly my questions get answered without having to log on. But:

I have a Pax my buddy sent me when he upgraded to a Pax 2. It requires a little more care and maintenance than I'm used to, but I don't mind since it's a pretty great vape. Here's my problem: like a lot of people, I'm having trouble with my mouthpiece. I didn't have time to read all 400+ pages of this thread, but I did read all the ones that came up in a Google search for "pax mouthpiece stuck" and no one seems to be having the exact issue that I'm having. Most of the problems on here are due to an accumulation of honey on moving parts, but I don't think that's the case with me. The mouthpiece moves, at least well enough to click, but no matter what I do it won't uncatch. I've tried warming with my hands, blowing gently into it, putting it in the sun, using a hair dryer, and putting it beneath the cat. :lol: No matter what I do, it won't pop out.

Any suggestions? Anyone else had this problem? Please don't make me go back to combustion!

Thanks.
 
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Kalessin

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Hi. Long time lurker here. Mostly my questions get answered without having to log on. But:

I have a Pax my buddy sent me when he upgraded to a Pax 2. It requires a little more care and maintenance than I'm used to, but I don't mind since it's a pretty great vape. Here's my problem: like a lot of people, I'm having trouble with my mouthpiece. I didn't have time to read all 400+ pages of this thread, but I did read all the ones that came up in a Google search for "pax mouthpiece stuck" and no one seems to be having the exact issue that I'm having. Most of the problems on here are due to an accumulation of honey on moving parts, but I don't think that's the case with me. The mouthpiece moves, at least well enough to click, but no matter what I do it won't uncatch. I've tried warming with my hands, blowing gently into it, putting it in the sun, using a hair dryer, and putting it beneath the cat. :lol: No matter what I do, it won't pop out.

Any suggestions? Anyone else had this problem? Please don't make me go back to combustion!

Thanks.
I had that happen to mine at one point and I bent a paperclip and slid it under the mouthpiece and pulled it loose. I am not going to -recommend- doing that because when I did it the spring came out a bit as well, but after I put the spring back in place it was fine. Edit: Actually, this might have happened with the knockoff Pax I had before my official one, I'm not sure.
 
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Cool. Thanks for posting.

I was using a precision screwdriver to try to pry out the screen so I could send a paperclip through the other end when, on a whim, I tried fishing for an obstruction on the hitter end. Don't see how that coulda been the cause, but it chose that moment to dislodge. I gave the mouthpiece assembly a nice long soak in ISO, scrubbed it with a brush, and lubed it liberally. Seems to work fine now.

Fingers crossed for now, but should I order a new one just in case? Yea or nay?
 

mrbonsai420

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So, Pax customer support is really good. I sent my Purple Pax 1 in for service. It didn't charge after only 20 or so uses. Unfortunately I got a black one back but that's ok. I am using the Haze V3.0 as my portable so I gave the new Pax to my Girlfriend (who REALLY wanted the purple one lol). She likes the way it hits although she said it was a little restrictive and you had to pack way too big of bowls. I agree with both of those assessments. I used to fold a screen in half to remedy the bowl size but it was messy and fiddly. I was looking at the Pax 1 pusher, the upgraded screen, and the vented lid. I don't want to buy all 3 of these because that would be another $55 and I don't want to spend that on Pax accessories. If I was only going to get 1 accessory which would you get? Those of you who use these add-ons how do you like them?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAX-1-Pushe...681444?hash=item19ff6f86a4:g:gzEAAOSwBahVAfk7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAX-1-Botto...393187?hash=item1c52369563:g:86oAAOSwBLlVAfyB


http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAX-1-Vente...023738?hash=item1c56f5a63a:g:xcsAAOSwBLlVZxFd
 

Kalessin

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So, Pax customer support is really good. I sent my Purple Pax 1 in for service. It didn't charge after only 20 or so uses. Unfortunately I got a black one back but that's ok. I am using the Haze V3.0 as my portable so I gave the new Pax to my Girlfriend (who REALLY wanted the purple one lol). She likes the way it hits although she said it was a little restrictive and you had to pack way too big of bowls. I agree with both of those assessments. I used to fold a screen in half to remedy the bowl size but it was messy and fiddly. I was looking at the Pax 1 pusher, the upgraded screen, and the vented lid. I don't want to buy all 3 of these because that would be another $55 and I don't want to spend that on Pax accessories. If I was only going to get 1 accessory which would you get? Those of you who use these add-ons how do you like them?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAX-1-Pushe...681444?hash=item19ff6f86a4:g:gzEAAOSwBahVAfk7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAX-1-Botto...393187?hash=item1c52369563:g:86oAAOSwBLlVAfyB


http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAX-1-Vente...023738?hash=item1c56f5a63a:g:xcsAAOSwBLlVZxFd
Haven't tried the vented lid but I have the pusher and bottom screen. I didn't like the bottom screen at all, it was messy, and didn't to my mind improve airflow that much. The pusher I LOVE. Works waaaaaaay better than a folded screen. Makes packing so much simpler too. If I lost mine I would immediately go buy another one.
 
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Ebola Jones

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Hey everyone,
I've been at GC for awhile, but they don't really have a lot of vaporizer discussion going on, so I was referred to here. I've had my Pax since February 2015 (but I didn't realize how to use it properly so I barely used it up until 2-3 months ago). This thing is great, but I have a quick question about it:

Pax generally advises to only get two sessions off one oven, which I mean was ok for me way back when I wasn't completely broke in college. Right now, I'm packing about .25g ovens, and trying to get 3 session off it.
To me it seems like whenever I shut the Pax off and go back to it later, the vapor production is noticeably less than it would be if I just vaped it all in one session. By the third session, it's barely producing anything, mostly just hot air. The herbs are browned, definitely not overcooked.

My question is: Has anyone used their Pax just to take about 2-4 pulls off it, then put it up, take 2-4 pulls, and do this til the herb is spent? Does it work well, and how many sessions can you get? If so, I'll probably start packing them full, as they're more efficient.
 
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pakalolo

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Hey everyone,
I've been at GC for awhile, but they don't really have a lot of vaporizer discussion going on, so I was referred to here. I've had my Pax since February 2015 (but I didn't realize how to use it properly so I barely used it up until 2-3 months ago). This thing is great, but I have a quick question about it:

Pax generally advises to only get two sessions off one oven, which I mean was ok for me way back when I wasn't completely broke in college. Right now, I'm packing about .25g ovens, and trying to get 3 session off it.
To me it seems like whenever I shut the Pax off and go back to it later, the vapor production is noticeably less than it would be if I just vaped it all in one session. By the third session, it's barely producing anything, mostly just hot air. The herbs are browned, definitely not overcooked.

My question is: Has anyone used their Pax just to take about 2-4 pulls off it, then put it up, take 2-4 pulls, and do this til the herb is spent? Does it work well, and how many sessions can you get? If so, I'll probably start packing them full, as they're more efficient.

A load that has been heated more than once has been heated than a load that you finish in one session because it has to be heated up from cold every time you turn it on. This extra heating is a large contributor to your problem. You can try using much smaller loads. Mine are typically about .07 g, or roughly a third of your load. I got acceptable results just by packing that size of load tightly, but most people would use some sort of spacer to keep the load tightly packed. Check this thread for some ideas.

Incidentally, one of the major changes in the Pax 2 design was to minimize the effect of the always-on oven.
 
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I gotta give a shout out to Pax. My Pax 1 has been my sole driver since October 2013. I've found creative ways to make it work for my light use and have found it to be efficient, economical, easy to use, and very very stealthy. I read EVERYTHING about this device back in 2013 so I had a pretty good 'sense' of how to properly use, clean, and enjoy the product. I use micro-loads and place an additional screen atop the material....then a bent screen atop that to shorten the oven. I start low....next session medium...next session high. Often a load will last me a week or more (I know I know). I have never had a serious problem nor have I needed to replace any parts. I clean it regularly and it looks nearly new. I figured it was time to tell PAX and FC that this was a great and groundbreaking device.

Of course I don't find that newbs always understand my PAX in a group setting. Of course I don't like cleaning this device (p in the a). Of course the mouthpiece can be wonky for the uninitiated. Of course their are 'better' devices available today. But again....this device has worked flawlessly for me for almost 3 years.

I thought about this today as I expect to receive my FF2 tomorrow. I've also ordered a GH...though it sounds like I might not receive it for a long long while. Meantime....PAX1 keeps truckin' on.
 

Majordude2626

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I gotta give a shout out to Pax. My Pax 1 has been my sole driver since October 2013. I've found creative ways to make it work for my light use and have found it to be efficient, economical, easy to use, and very very stealthy. I read EVERYTHING about this device back in 2013 so I had a pretty good 'sense' of how to properly use, clean, and enjoy the product. I use micro-loads and place an additional screen atop the material....then a bent screen atop that to shorten the oven. I start low....next session medium...next session high. Often a load will last me a week or more (I know I know). I have never had a serious problem nor have I needed to replace any parts. I clean it regularly and it looks nearly new. I figured it was time to tell PAX and FC that this was a great and groundbreaking device.

Of course I don't find that newbs always understand my PAX in a group setting. Of course I don't like cleaning this device (p in the a). Of course the mouthpiece can be wonky for the uninitiated. Of course their are 'better' devices available today. But again....this device has worked flawlessly for me for almost 3 years.

I thought about this today as I expect to receive my FF2 tomorrow. I've also ordered a GH...though it sounds like I might not receive it for a long long while. Meantime....PAX1 keeps truckin' on.

I hear you man, I got my Pax back about that time and it still functions just as good as new. I find the vapor harsher than some of the newer vapes, but if I'm outside and require stealth or riding my bike and only have one hand free, it is still the right tool for the job. Now that I have other vapes in my rotation I don't use the pax that much, but as long as it is clean it is ready to go.
 

SMODomite

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I hear you man, I got my Pax back about that time and it still functions just as good as new. I find the vapor harsher than some of the newer vapes, but if I'm outside and require stealth or riding my bike and only have one hand free, it is still the right tool for the job. Now that I have other vapes in my rotation I don't use the pax that much, but as long as it is clean it is ready to go.

I haven't used my Pax in a while, last time I used it after a full charge though it just didn't quite seem to be heating up right after having it for a couple years, but I need to give it a good cleaning and try again to see if something is up. Unfortunately, I can't even send it in for warranty at all because I got it signed by Doug Benson and don't wanna lose it haha
 
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