The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

BD9

Well-Known Member
Well I get properly stoned now.. more intense than from smoking. It feels just really powerful, slowly creeping up. I just get no vapor so I guess it's just the weed I use cause the effect is great :) and the throat hit is pretty intense, when I'm done my abv is dark brown. I keep vaping until I taste popcorn, then take a few more draws. I think I take like 15-20 draws from 0,1 gram?

Seems like I definitely need a water tool cause I find this too harsh and I keep sneezing and caughing.


Hi Joker, I'm still new to this myself so take this for what it's worth... I was having the same issues you are and I found that grinding my herb more is producing more hits and better vapor. Still experimenting with temps, but for now a about 360-400 seems to work well for me. YMMV.
A water tool is definitely worth purchasing in my opinion. Good luck
 

phried

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure if it was mentioned here before, but after getting tired of dirtying my Crafty/Mighty's oven using oil/wax I tried using the S&B liquid pad with the EQ at max temp with a water piece... And it works. There is A LOT of preheating needed but it really produces clouds, the temp of the liquid pad goes down a lot between draws though so it doesn't work well for long, relaxed sessions.

Extending the EQ's value through other vapes' (free) accessories is just cool.
 

Stevenski

Enter the Dragon
I'm not sure if it was mentioned here before, but after getting tired of dirtying my Crafty/Mighty's oven using oil/wax I tried using the S&B liquid pad with the EQ at max temp with a water piece... And it works. There is A LOT of preheating needed but it really produces clouds, the temp of the liquid pad goes down a lot between draws though so it doesn't work well for long, relaxed sessions.

Extending the EQ's value through other vapes' (free) accessories is just cool.

Even stock a preheated EQ running at 240c should produce clouds so thick it is not funny. I have never tried the S&B liquid pad but I have heard favourable reports on it with the EQ & it is always good to see someone think outside the box. Shows you purchased the right vape :tup:.

FWIW the most devastating clouds I have ever had was when I was running shatter sandwiches elbow packed at 240c. Yes it was extracting .1 of weed & .05 of shatter per rip but those rips were knocking me about in a big way.

Thick enough for my liking at least :peace:

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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Even stock a preheated EQ running at 240c should produce clouds so thick it is not funny. I have never tried the S&B liquid pad but I have heard favourable reports on it with the EQ & it is always good to see someone think outside the box. Shows you purchased the right vape :tup:.

FWIW the most devastating clouds I have ever had was when I was running shatter sandwiches elbow packed at 240c. Yes it was extracting .1 of weed & .05 of shatter per rip but those rips were knocking me about in a big way.

Thick enough for my liking at least :peace:

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I wish I could make a VIDEO with my IPHONE like you!

The "Q" saved me today!
I lowered to 445f and no worries.

@DDave your kit makes a difference.

I had the Q filled so full with DUTCH TREAT and I feel fine now?
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The taste is very nice actually!
I can lower the temp as well however I had a .50 gram load of DUTCH TREAT and I feel amazing!
 
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DDave

Vape Wizard
Accessory Maker
I wish I could make a VIDEO with my IPHONE like you!

The "Q" saved me today!
I lowered to 445f and no worries.

@DDave your kit makes a difference.

I had the Q filled so full with DUTCH TREAT and I feel fine now?
gDQGDJg.jpg

The taste is very nice actually!
I can lower the temp as well however I had a .50 gram load of DUTCH TREAT and I feel amazing!
@ataxian I'm glad you're feeling better!

Wow! That setup is tall!!!! That looks like it would really rip!!! :rockon:

I fear that would turn DDave into Super Dave Osborn very quickly! And I'd be at the bottom of the pileup!
 

BD9

Well-Known Member
Hmm.... I'm still trying to figure out the EQ. Full disclosure, I'm using this organic herbal blend:
https://www.vaporwarehouse.com/site/botanical-blends.html
because I still can't source proper medicine so that may have something to do the it but I'm not sure.

I get plenty of flavor on the 1st and 2nd draws with no vapor then maybe on the third draw I'll get light vapor and a little less flavor. Then slightly heavier vapor with very little flavor on the next few draws.

I grind the herd pretty well. When using the cyclone bowl I fill it to varying levels because I'm trying to find what works best. Usually I fill 1/4 to 3/4 of the way full and let the herb sit for 1 to 2 minutes then I take a pull. Oh, I let the EQ warm up for about 30-60 minutes. I try different temps all in Fahrenheit from 360 - 420 and I get very little vapor and only about three hits. I mean I feel like I would be medicated but only half the time I load the bowl. I'm not sure what's going.

Do you guys leave your EQ's on and at temp. all the time? Could it be the 'herb' blends? I'm saving to get a DDave kit, but I'm also considering getting rid of the EQ and an Underdog. Guys, I'm sorry I didn't mean to type that out loud... I know it's has to be something I'm doing. the EQ is fine.
 
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DDave

Vape Wizard
Accessory Maker
Hmm.... I'm still trying to figure out the EQ. Full disclosure, I'm using this organic herbal blend:
https://www.vaporwarehouse.com/site/botanical-blends.html
because I still can't source proper medicine so that may have something to do the it but I'm not sure.

I get plenty of flavor on the 1st and 2nd draws with no vapor then maybe on the third draw I'll get light vapor and a little less flavor. Then slightly heavier vapor with very little flavor on the next few draws.

I grind the herd pretty well. When using the cyclone bowl I fill it to varying levels because I'm trying to find what works best. Usually I fill 1/4 to 3/4 of the way full and let the herb sit for 1 to 2 minutes then I take a pull. Oh, I let the EQ warm up for about 30-60 minutes. I try different temps all in Fahrenheit from 360 - 420 and I get very little vapor and only about three hits. I mean I feel like I would be medicated but only half the time I load the bowl. I'm not sure what's going.

Do you guys leave your EQ's on and at temp. all the time? Could it be the 'herb' blends? I'm saving to get a DDave kit, but I'm also considering getting rid of the EQ and an Underdog. Guys, I'm sorry I didn't mean to type that out loud... I know it's has to be something I'm doing. the EQ is fine.
Hey @BD9

(I might be jumping into this late).

You've got the preheat good. The EQ seems to like a fine grind in the cyclone bowl from Arizer, you've got that covered as well. I never let my herb sit within a hot cyclone bowl. Always loaded right before a draw.

Have you tried elbow packing?

So how do your other vaporizers do on extraction of the same batch of herb?

Also, how's the moisture content of the herb you're grinding/vaping? Are your screens clean? What color would you approximate your ABV to be when you're done with a session?

To answer, I left my EQ on 18+ hours a day (that is when I remembered to turn it off)... in the early hours from 190-200c, evenings 230c. That is with adapter on, but not wand and whip.
 

BD9

Well-Known Member
Hey @BD9

(I might be jumping into this late).

You've got the preheat good. The EQ seems to like a fine grind in the cyclone bowl from Arizer, you've got that covered as well. I never let my herb sit within a hot cyclone bowl. Always loaded right before a draw.

Have you tried elbow packing?

So how do your other vaporizers do on extraction of the same batch of herb?

Also, how's the moisture content of the herb you're grinding/vaping? Are your screens clean? What color would you approximate your ABV to be when you're done with a session?

To answer, I left my EQ on 18+ hours a day (that is when I remembered to turn it off)... in the early hours from 190-200c, evenings 230c. That is with adapter on, but not wand and whip.

I have tried elbow packing with the same results as using the cyclone bowl. Varied.

I only have the VaporBros Hands free box and it seems to do a little better, but I have combustion more often with VB box.

Moisture content? The herbs are dryer than things that are dry. Desert dry. Very easy to over grind and get powder with just few turns of my cosmic grinder.

Screens are clean. I'm kind of OCD about that. Sometimes the herbs are a nice brown color and other times they're only slightly darker than when I loaded them.

I appreciate the help! Thanks
 

CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
Moisture content? The herbs are dryer than things that are dry. Desert dry. Very easy to over grind and get powder with just few turns of my cosmic grinder.
Try using the scissors and shotglass trick to cut the leaves but not shred them to powder. You can play around with the thickness. Here is a vid I found.
 

MoltenTiger

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Most herbs don't have the same oil composition, which is what we're extracting during vaporisation, and so typically have very different off gassing tendencies.
I always get whispier clouds with alternative herb aromatherapy, and I find its only when the temp is too high that I get proper looking hits. However if you dial in the appropriate temp for the herb, you will get tastier, more potent hits although, and especially if put through water, it won't be as noticeable as extracting from oil rich plants.

Im not sure what you're chasing with the other plants, but my favourite has been mugwort. Have a big bowl before bed and it intensifies dreaming.
Passionflower is also alright, kind of slows down nerve response and can really chill you out.
Damiana is worth checking out for mild sedation, although I haven't tried vaping it yet. Used to smoke a bit back in the day.
Having a mixture of herbs has never done that much for me, I prefer to hone in on particular qualities. I imagine the effect would be stronger, as the hits will have more particular actives and not just a low dose of a large spectrum.

How much stalk and plant fibre is mixed in? Typically this part of the plant is void of the desired extractables.
 

BD9

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I am with @CuckFumbustion on this one. If your herb is dust-dry, try a slightly courser ground.

How old is this batch of herb?

Yeah, these herbs are very dry. As far as age, I'm not sure. Definitely not fresh though. I'm experienced with with herbs as I drink a lot of tea and grow most of my herbs.

Most herbs don't have the same oil composition, which is what we're extracting during vaporisation, and so typically have very different off gassing tendencies.
I always get whispier clouds with alternative herb aromatherapy, and I find its only when the temp is too high that I get proper looking hits. However if you dial in the appropriate temp for the herb, you will get tastier, more potent hits although, and especially if put through water, it won't be as noticeable as extracting from oil rich plants.

Im not sure what you're chasing with the other plants, but my favourite has been mugwort. Have a big bowl before bed and it intensifies dreaming.
Passionflower is also alright, kind of slows down nerve response and can really chill you out.
Damiana is worth checking out for mild sedation, although I haven't tried vaping it yet. Used to smoke a bit back in the day.
Having a mixture of herbs has never done that much for me, I prefer to hone in on particular qualities. I imagine the effect would be stronger, as the hits will have more particular actives and not just a low dose of a large spectrum.

How much stalk and plant fibre is mixed in? Typically this part of the plant is void of the desired extractables.

You make some great points that I've wondered about and now can confirm. I too have found that at higher temps. I get better vapor but fewer hits. I sometimes use my bubbler as I'm trying to find what works best.
The part I put in bold I felt was important because these blends are full of husks and stems. When I get things right it's very enjoyable.

First, I appreciate everyone's input! Everyone has given great feedback. As I said in an earlier post, the EQ is fine, it's me or the alternative herbs I'm using. I wanted to post to get confirmation.

Thank you all.
 

kellya86

Herb gardener...
@Sds

You don't need dust for the eq, I have a cheap 4pc, I grind upsidedown a bit and it comes out about right.

But I'm looking for a grinder upgrade too, lots of good info on the herb grinder thread...

I haven't been able to use my eq since Saturday, I took a lung full of some toxic shit from an incinerator, and now my lungs are burnt, I can just about manage some sips on my solo, but the eq is way to irritating (many extracted cannabiniods) for my lungs to deal with at the moment....

I miss it lots, haven't had a day off the eq since September....

I love my solo, but it just doesn't get me the the same place as the eq....

Any tips for a faster recovery....
 

BD9

Well-Known Member
@Sds

Any tips for a faster recovery....

Sorry to hear your not feeling well.
You can try Pranayama. See the video I linked.
There are also some things you try vaping to help get your lungs healthy again as well; Oregano, Orange Peel, Eucalyptus, Peppermint, Ginger Root, Celery, and Peppercorn. An MJ herb tea will help to. THC is good for the lungs.

 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
@Sds

You don't need dust for the eq, I have a cheap 4pc, I grind upsidedown a bit and it comes out about right.

But I'm looking for a grinder upgrade too, lots of good info on the herb grinder thread...

I haven't been able to use my eq since Saturday, I took a lung full of some toxic shit from an incinerator, and now my lungs are burnt, I can just about manage some sips on my solo, but the eq is way to irritating (many extracted cannabiniods) for my lungs to deal with at the moment....

I miss it lots, haven't had a day off the eq since September....

I love my solo, but it just doesn't get me the the same place as the eq....

Any tips for a faster recovery....
The SOLO is perfect for study.
The Q before bed.

It depends what your goals are?

I use my old space case for a medium grind.
The knock off cheap ones grind too fine like for a MFLB
 
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phried

Well-Known Member
Ok I'm back after messing around more with my EQ and like all previous attempts, there really is nothing like an elbow pack... An elbow packed liquid pad that is. Gently reduce a Crafty/Mighty liquid pad's size by rolling it between your fingers until you can pack it in the elbow. Treat like a normal elbow (preheat, etc) but be careful not to over fill with liquid/concentrate so it will not drip. Allow concentrate to settle in the pad before turning over onto the awaiting preheated bowl.

The Mighty was ok at 210C with wispy vapor, but the EQ with the available higher temps... Clouds. Clouds. And more clouds. Works best with a water piece.

I basically killed the need for a FireFly2. Oh right, that's a portable.
 
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kellya86

Herb gardener...
The edit button has gone so I believe I'm entitled to a double post without fear of mod trouble.....

I've always said the eq is much more powerful than the solo, as much as I love the solo, I could put a gram through it, and be nowhere near the same level as 0.07 in the eq.....

@1DMF is one person I've tried to emphasise this to...

This has really shown itself since Iv not been able to use it for 5 days now, I'm not passing out at night anymore like I used too, it's taking a bit of laying there and trying to sleep, instead of me just going instantly....

My old routine was only 2 eq baskets and a solo stem, per night.

1 basket at 6pm, 1 at 9pm, and a solo after....

I swapped that out now for just 2 solo sessions, so I'm using the same amount of herb, but getting way less medicated....

I miss my eq....
 

CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
still get KO's by the Solo, especially if I use my bubbler. Perhaps I'm now a light weight?
Good for you!

I miss my eq....
Hope things work out.
Mine lost a screw cover on one of it's feet. So I designed 2 fakes so it leans back slightly. A piece of the cap is almost off, So I placed my silicone wrist band in place over it. Need to move it around less.
I haven't been able to use my eq since Saturday, I took a lung full of some toxic shit from an incinerator, and now my lungs are burnt, I can just about manage some sips on my solo, but the eq is way to irritating (many extracted cannabiniods) for my lungs to deal with at the moment....
On the ethnobotanical thread I asked for some herb advice to add to my eucylyptus oil and water for my towel over the head steam baths. Not sure if some are good/bad for your condition but a source of info. Helped prevent those dry coughs that tend to tear me up and cause more pain and complications.
 

kellya86

Herb gardener...
@1DMF my eq is fine, my lungs are broken...

I'm not exactly a heavy weight myself, my consumption is less than 0.3 a night...

This is my point about how noticeable it is to lose the eq as a delivery method....

The rapid and full extraction that the eq delivers, puts me on a higher level that I cannot achieve with a solo solo....

Same amount, just delivered all at once as opposed to a 20 minute session to receive the same quantity of active compounds....

@CuckFumbustion I caped some orange peel last night on the advice of @BD9 , and it seemed to help, so thanks.
I have sent the missis on a mission to get me some eucalyptus tonight....
 

kellya86

Herb gardener...
It's was completely accidental, just walked past an incinerator, it was the most painfull thing I've ever inhaled...

Was like being stabbed in the chest many times instantly, I sware a second lung full would have killed me....

God knows what was being burnt...

My eq makes me feel like all the air has been sucked from the room anyway, after a nice extraction, just can't handle it right now....
 
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