The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[Stevenski]

Looks like poor old @joker is going through what I went through with my EQ when I first got it . Good advice from @kellya86 & @CuckFumbustion but you will need to persevere with vaping for it to work . Each time you smoke a joint you are resetting the vape clock & that will never work out. I tried a bit of both for 2+ years before I stopped combusting but now I would reject the offer of a joint or bong even if it meant going without.

I would suggest putting the bags in a drawer & using only the whip for now. You biggest issue is concentrating the vapour so forget bags until you "understand" your vape & crank it up in temperature. Only elbow pack your EQ with .1-.15 & vape at 210c. If you don't get at least 5 nice big puffs (4-5 seconds) then I don't know what to say. What does your ABV look like? Not all cannabis gives off huge clouds of vapour so try other strains if you can as well.

As for a watertool it is not to cool the vapour like smoke but to moisten the vapour so it is "hydrated" & not as irritating to ingest. Using hot water makes it even smoother & you can get very large "rips" of vapour. Also try a kief sandwich for a bit of extra kick when you have a vape.

I think there is very large import taxes in Holland if buying items from outside the EU? If so a nice bubbler like these from Blaze glass are available in Europe & I can testify the 2nd one is perfect for the EQ & the first one looks very nice too.

http://www.blackleaf.de/index.php/bongs/blaze-blubber-mit-doppel-inlinediffusor.html

http://www.blackleaf.de/index.php/bongs/blaze-blubber-duschkopfdiffuser-bunt.html

 

[joker]

Well I get properly stoned now.. more intense than from smoking. It feels just really powerful, slowly creeping up. I just get no vapor so I guess it's just the weed I use cause the effect is great and the throat hit is pretty intense, when I'm done my abv is dark brown. I keep vaping until I taste popcorn, then take a few more draws. I think I take like 15-20 draws from 0,1 gram?

Seems like I definitely need a water tool cause I find this too harsh and I keep sneezing and caughing.

 

[kellya86]

62% is not 'wet'....
62% is not dry either, it's just the right humidity, dry but not brittle..

Maybe you are too moist as @Detonator suggested, weed that is too fresh does as you describe, no vapour on first hit (as moisture leaves), then some OK hits....

My properly cured buds at 62% will release much vapour on all goes, specially the first...

@Stevenski had some good advice there like smoking resetting the vape clock, listen to that man, he knows how to rip a cloud....

But at least you are realising the power of vapor now, it does get you a whole new sort of high, I fucking love it, smoking is groggy and heavy and over quickly, vaping is fresh and buzzy and energetic and clean and controllable and just much much better....fuck combustion...

 

[joker]

Whether I smoke or not the weed is in the elbow pack and not producing vapor right? But I do believe after quitting smoking for a while vaping will be more effective. Anyway I'll try a different strain today and let it get super dry first. But the effect works fine anyway so I don't really care anymore with the balloons I really didn't get high.. now from 0,2 gram it's way more intense than 0,5 with balloons.

Thanks for all the help

Actually I find vaping elbow pack at 210-230 pretty similar to smoking joints. I feel like I can't move at all. With 160-170 degrees I got really energetic and uplifting. The high is indeed much better, I just miss smoking joints, I liked that so much better. Even after vaping 4 months I still missed it every day. I just quit for health reasons (I guess like most people here)

 

[kellya86]

You cannabis should be able to be broken up by rolling between your fingers, but not turn to dust, this is a rough way of gauging correct humidity...

 

[joker]

Yeah I have that. I think I still did it wrong. Didn't pack the elbow tight enough. I did it really tight now and got some decent vapor when taking very hard draws. I still didn't see the vapor in the chimney like you said but sometimes saw a tiny bit moving through the glass so I'll get some tonight and let it dry some more and test it out again. However all my weed is perfectly grindable with your fingers. The effect is really strong now, kind of overwhelming actually.

 

[YungLeaner]

No my weed is pretty dry. I thought maybe kellya uses wet weed and that's why there's much vapor. I got pretty baked from 0,1 gram though while I barely got any vapor so it works fine I guess.

What is the finished product looking like? Is the weed brown after? There's shouldn't be any green left after a full session

 

[joker]

Yes the middle part is a bit black and the rest is dark brown. There's absolutely nothing that resembles any green. I got at least as stoned as with smoking now from 0,2 gram so I'm good

 

[Stevenski]

Actually I find vaping elbow pack at 210-230 pretty similar to smoking joints. I feel like I can't move at all. With 160-170 degrees I got really energetic and uplifting. The high is indeed much better, I just miss smoking joints, I liked that so much better. Even after vaping 4 months I still missed it every day. I just quit for health reasons (I guess like most people here)

Those higher temps are where it is at especially when converting from being a smoker. Low temps like 165-190c are more cerebral whereas going north of 210c gets that stoney feeling going.

Yes the middle part is a bit black and the rest is dark brown. There's absolutely nothing that resembles any green. I got at least as stoned as with smoking now from 0,2 gram so I'm good

Yup. You got it. Now to get hydrated son....

 

[joker]

I will, thanks. Still surprised how the balloon barely gave any effect, the abv was even darker there when I was done.

 

[Stevenski]

Yeah best not get my opinion on balloons although I am fond of suggesting they are for a small woman or perhaps a child?

 

[joker]

The high now lasted much longer than yesterday too, it faded yesterday after 1-1,5 hour, it lasted 2-3 hours now.. good stuff. I like how it fades gradually and I don't feel too fucked up/lazy compared to smoking a joint. I had this effect before but only after 1+ gram and not 0,2

I'm going to quit smoking again today. I use a vape for a while but went to 0 mg nicotine and picked up smoking again. I understand after you quit smoking and your lungs restore a bit you'll probably get an even better effect from vaping weed. Will this also be the case if I vape e liquid? I vape quite a bit (10-15ml a day) but not at a high nic strength. Do my lungs also restore slower now that I still vape weed + e liquid or doesn't it matter too much?

 

[kellya86]

Vaped cannabis is a decongestant and helps expell the tar and site from your lungs from all the smoking, I coughed for about a month when I switched, then my lungs got better...

 

[Sds]

@joker just read through your issues with the EQ and I went through the same issues with mine for months at first. It was chomping through the weed as I was only getting 2/3 very average pulls from an elbow pack. I tried changing everything and ended up going a very similar route to the @DDave mod.
But that didn't help.
I was stumped.

One day I was high and for some reason I grinded my herb a few extra times with the grinder upside down to really chomp it up till it was really quite fine.

Aaand that solved my issue. Simply just wasn't grinding fine enough.
Well I'm 99‰ sure that was it anyway..

Could give it a go?

 

[TomC1315]

Yeah best not get my opinion on balloons although I am fond of suggesting they are for a small woman or perhaps a child?

"F*#@ balloons !!! Any 'man' who'd use a balloon to vape some bud can vote for Hillary for all I care!"
-DTrmp

 

[DDave]

"F*#@ balloons !!! Any 'man' who'd use a balloon to vape some bud can vote for Hillary for all I care!"
-DTrmp

I vote for @TomC1315!

Spoiler: The DDave Balloon Mod

Kidding! No offense intended to those who vape bags!

 

[CuckFumbustion]

62% is not 'wet'....
62% is not dry either, it's just the right humidity, dry but not brittle..

Maybe you are too moist as @Detonator suggested, weed that is too fresh does as you describe, no vapour on first hit (as moisture leaves), then some OK hits....

My properly cured buds at 62% will release much vapour on all goes, specially the first...

@Stevenski had some good advice there like smoking resetting the vape clock, listen to that man, he knows how to rip a cloud....

But at least you are realising the power of vapor now, it does get you a whole new sort of high, I fucking love it, smoking is groggy and heavy and over quickly, vaping is fresh and buzzy and energetic and clean and controllable and just much much better....fuck combustion...

Always thought drier is better for vaping. Good description of the type of dryness to expect. Resetting the clock ? Having to learn that lesson warming up some vapes. Once my EQ is fully charged and the glass is warmed up, I don't have to worry about that problem.

Yeah best not get my opinion on balloons although I am fond of suggesting they are for a small woman or perhaps a child?

I contributed with that running joke myself. But for that week of bronchitis, it was just the right medicine. (not advisable.BTW) And towel stem baths with a single drop of eucalyptus oil. (advisable) Then back in the lab. Then come up with another bag joke....

Too bag users and Hillary Voters, I did come up with an 18mm bag fill setup re-purposing cyclone bowls. It is FAST, even on Fan 1 and there is less mixing with the outside air. Less dissipation. Plus a double walled whip hose with adapters ends that make the passage near airtight.

Oh, when times are tough, their is rebreather hits.

"F*#@ balloons !!! Any 'man' who'd use a balloon to vape some bud can vote for Hillary for all I care!"
-DTrmp

Never used a balloon to vape. How about for laughing gas? It's going to be a long election.

 

[Justpassedu]

When set up well a bag filled with vapor can be a really nice option for some. The Volcano by Storz & Bickel has made millions if not billions off of this method and it happens to work well. With a good Eq set up and some practice bags are a great option for some and to be honest I myself sometimes like a bag full of vapor once in a blue as its just a nice change that doesn't tie me to the table and of course the vapor is always a bit cooler on the throat.

 

[BadDog No]

At the possible risk of some good natured ribbing, I'm a big bag fan (my doctor wants me to lose weight...)and have been thinking of upgrading to an EQ because of the new 10mm glass mouthpieces for the balloons. A simple 14/10 adaptor and I can use my Orbiter or other glass without messing with whips. My current system works well but is far less elegant. Anyone using it with their EQ? Do you use the Arizer "glass whip" or do you just use an 18/14/10 reducer? Thanks for any replies in advance. Oh and in defense of my "bag" habit, I mostly use it with ABV from the Firefly so I'm not a complete vaporheathen. Oh wait, have I just added (invented?) a new phrase to my working vocabulary?

 

[TomC1315]

When set up well a bag filled with vapor can be a really nice option for some. The Volcano by Storz & Bickel has made millions if not billions off of this method and it happens to work well. With a good Eq set up and some practice bags are a great option for some and to be honest I myself sometimes like a bag full of vapor once in a blue as its just a nice change that doesn't tie me to the table and of course the vapor is always a bit cooler on the throat.

After seeing the "small woman/child" thing regarding balloons yet again ... I got to thinking 'that's something Trump might say' ... hence the above quote and reply :-)

I personally, think balloons/bags are a great method for consuming ... my Arizer Air portable compliments the EQ wonderfully.
With the Air (and a screen in the bowl) or with the EQ modified with the Original DDave cyclone bowl upgrade, I'm using about .08g per session.

The bag fills up nicely with the new Arizer mini-whip, extracting almost everything available ... a second bag from the initial material yields almost nothing. What's not used up (temps are between 356F and 363F) ends up in the brownies.

I get just as high from either the Air or the EQ ...

Before the EQ arrived last July, both the wife and I figured we'd be using the whip, and that the bag method looked odd ... haven't used the whip since the first few days.

Three hits into this balloon ...

 

[Stevenski]

Always thought drier is better for vaping. Good description of the type of dryness to expect. Resetting the clock ? Having to learn that lesson warming up some vapes. Once my EQ is fully charged and the glass is warmed up, I don't have to worry about that problem.
I contributed with that running joke myself. But for that week of bronchitis, it was just the right medicine. (not advisable.BTW) And towel stem baths with a single drop of eucalyptus oil. (advisable) Then back in the lab. Then come up with another bag joke....

I don't get sick often these days but last time I got sick with the "throaties" I vaped every couple of hours with hot water in a pre heated bong. More effort than I usually go to but very worthwhile as moisturized thick vapour is less irritating than cooler, dryer thin vapour like a bag provides. Far preferable than old school "bongitis" that always lingered for a week or two, @Nugg would know exactly what I mean.

As for the "election" in the US it both astounds & repulses me in so many ways. Seems anything but democratic & more a depraved circus than anything else. We have an election in Australia too this year but it has not been announced when it will happen. The cool thing is we have just as morally destitute candidates as the US but our agony is over in a paltry 3 months. Gotta take the lil wins

@Justpassedu & @BadDog No bags are fine it is a bit of a joke I have as a bag is perfect to give to someone who has never vaped before. I have had dense heavy bags that have left me wrecked don't worry about that one lil bit . I just infer that a bag is like an aperitif, a light refreshing cocktail before you start necking Jager from the bottle.

After seeing the "small woman/child" thing regarding balloons yet again ... I got to thinking 'that's something Trump might say' ... hence the above quote and reply :-)

Yup looks like we got one of those goddam CanaCommies here. Not manly enough to direct draw at 230c or to make America great again, just a traitor that wants to make Canada Ok but never great. Canada is Ok but like I made Wrestlemania IV & V great I will make America great.

When I first used the "woman or small child" reference I always visualized it as a stereotypical sleazy frenchman saying "Well zat is zokay if yu are a whoman or prehaps a small child non?" but I a loving the Trump reference. It is exactly the kind of shit he would talk "You know why, because he wants to send American jobs to the socialist Arizer factor paradise thats why!"

my Arizer Air portable compliments the EQ wonderfully.

The Air is a great sidekick to the EQ as they are both very different vapes but compliment each other perfectly. Almost like they were made by the same company .

 

[Nugg]

@Stevenski I'm actually fighting a cold right now. Last night I was sipping on a hot lemsip while I high temp vaped through hot water. Very pleasant and I woke up feeling much better than the day before.

I haven't tried and air but I'm a huge fan of my solo. Awesome compliment to its big bro the EQ.

 

[Stevenski]

@Stevenski I'm actually fighting a cold right now. Last night I was sipping on a hot lemsip while I high temp vaped through hot water. Very pleasant and I woke up feeling much better than the day before.

I haven't tried and air but I'm a huge fan of my solo. Awesome compliment to its big bro the EQ.

That sux mate but Lemsip & hot water vaping will ease the discomfort . I thought you might have felt a little sick after the mighty Hawks getting up over your Crows last Friday .

 

[Nugg]

That was a hard loss to swallow @Stevenski but at least we brought the fight.

A few hash herb sandwiches in the EQ and I'll forget all about it.

 

[BD9]

I've taken some time off from posting to spend some time with my new tools. I was a little over whelmed, if not intimidated by the EQ at first, still am a little, but I've figured a few things out. The little derby hat screens are very useful. First use of the EQ I omitted the derby hat screen and ended up with mouth full of particulates . Very off putting. So the EQ got put off to the side for a day or or two, you know, because it was the EQ's fault , until I could come up with an idea of how to use it properly. My ego forbade me from posting to ask how how to use it and what went where.....

So a noobs experience is as follows; Ask questions! Grind herb, medicine, or whatever you have more than you think you need to. Let EQ warm up, don't vape at highest temp, unless you want to , don't take it too seriously, and finally, ask questions.